Knicks · this looks like a great fit... put Isiah in charge of women (page 8)

holfresh wrote:
I read the verdict online as did two other posters here..Their interpretation didn't agree with Slate mag..Slate is wrong, they may not even know it..

I wish you would stop debating things (as if you are some type of expert) that you obviously have no knowledge on. The "findlaw" link that was posted was not a "verdict". It was the complaint document by Browne and her legal team in her civil suit against MSG, Dolan and Thomas. You seem to not understand how the legal system works. A civil suit is not a criminal tria. They are two completely different aspects of the legal process. In a civil trial there is no guilty or innocent. There is a complaint and a zero, whole or partial judgement based on that complaint. The document you are reviewing is the complaint by Browne against the parties that she successfully proved in court that materially harmed her. A complaint is based upon civil statutes. In this case Sections 54 - 77 of the document you reference are the nature of her complaint. They are summarized as Sexual Discrimination and Retaliation. When a Civil complaint is filed, the complaints must be in alignment with Legal Statute as to the laws that were violated. Sexual Harassment is a laymans or commonly used terminology which fits under Sexual Discrimination which is another way of saying the creation of a Hostile Work Environment based on Sexual orientation - this was essentially stated in the complaint. As I pointed out earlier in this thread, there are different forms of Sexual Harassment both verbal and physical in nature. This is clearly a case of Sexual Harassment. To compound this, at the time it was referred to as Sexual Harassment almost universally.

You seem to have some kind of agenda that if the actual Term "Sexual Harassment" was not used in Browne's tweet or otherwise that this somehow exonerates Isiah Thomas from wrongdoing and making it OK for him to be in a position of power over woman in the WNBA. I'm not sure in looking at this case and understanding that a Superior Court Judgement against him would show how that is the case, nor show how he is rehabilitated in any way. Dolan and Thomas can say what they want to the media about the case being a sham, but the proof is in the pudding. If they truly throught they had a case, they would have appealed the decision rather than paying the settlement to Browne.

So you can brush up on your legal understanding here is a link to the definition of Sexual Harassment - which falls under the Legal Tort definition of Sexual Discrimination. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionar...

The Seattle Storm have expressed unhappiness about Zeke's ownership and say they plan to "fully participate in the vetting process"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/sports...

Two days after Isiah Thomas was named the president of the Liberty and given part ownership of the W.N.B.A. team, the Seattle Storm issued a statement expressing concern over the development and implying that they might vote not to approve Thomas’s ownership stake.

In 2007, a federal jury in Manhattan found that Thomas had sexually discriminated against Anucha Browne, a former Knicks executive, while Thomas was president and coach of the Knicks. Both the Knicks and the Liberty are owned by Madison Square Garden.

In the statement released Thursday by the Storm’s ownership group, Force 10 Hoops, which is led by the local businesswomen Dawn Trudeau, Lisa Brummel and Ginny Gilder, the team emphasized its duty to protect the league’s values in addressing “sexual harassment, domestic violence and sexual assault, all of which have been inadequately addressed for far too long.”

The statement also said, “As the proud owners of the Seattle Storm, we believe there is no statute of limitations on the mandate that all W.N.B.A. owners and executives serve as exemplary role models and leaders.”

Since Tuesday, some fans of the W.N.B.A. have criticized the Liberty’s decision to give Thomas a role overseeing a women’s professional sports team.

Thomas’s ownership stake needs approval by the league’s Board of Governors, which is made up of team owners or senior executives within the ownership groups. In a phone interview on Wednesday, Laurel Richie, the W.N.B.A.’s president, said a date had not yet been set for a vote. The Liberty must still send a completed application for review and fulfill other steps before the board will make a decision.

“It is a process that I and our board take very seriously,” Richie said.

The Storm’s owners said that they intended to “fully participate” in the vetting of new owners and that they welcomed the opportunity to “affirm the values and vision championed by the W.N.B.A.”

The statement concluded by saying, “We will do our best to protect and defend the core operating principles, stated or assumed, that form the foundation” of the W.N.B.A.

The Storm are the first team in the 12-team league, besides the Liberty, to publicly address Thomas’s hiring.

It is definitely an embarrassing move. Hey apart from Isiah, is there really no other person suits that position?

I really want to find reasons for liking dolan. Hiring consultants and being told he should delegate to basketball people was a great idea.
Hiring Phil, a guy NY fans like and respect was a good idea.

Hiring the failure post playing career Isiah was not. Its so wrong at many levels. He is spitting in the face of women given Isiahs harassment verdict. How would it help attract sponsers who obviously will market to women?
Women owned teams, like the one in seattle is offended by it.

Dolan has to understand that WNBA represents not just entertanment, but a postitive image of strong self esteem. Isiah has been fund guilty and MSG liable for sexual harrassment and Isiah threw his daughter under the bus to cover his own issues.

As a father of young women studant athlete I am repulsed by Dolans hiring.

foosballnick wrote:

holfresh wrote:
I read the verdict online as did two other posters here..Their interpretation didn't agree with Slate mag..Slate is wrong, they may not even know it..

I wish you would stop debating things (as if you are some type of expert) that you obviously have no knowledge on. The "findlaw" link that was posted was not a "verdict". It was the complaint document by Browne and her legal team in her civil suit against MSG, Dolan and Thomas. You seem to not understand how the legal system works. A civil suit is not a criminal tria. They are two completely different aspects of the legal process. In a civil trial there is no guilty or innocent. There is a complaint and a zero, whole or partial judgement based on that complaint. The document you are reviewing is the complaint by Browne against the parties that she successfully proved in court that materially harmed her. A complaint is based upon civil statutes. In this case Sections 54 - 77 of the document you reference are the nature of her complaint. They are summarized as Sexual Discrimination and Retaliation. When a Civil complaint is filed, the complaints must be in alignment with Legal Statute as to the laws that were violated. Sexual Harassment is a laymans or commonly used terminology which fits under Sexual Discrimination which is another way of saying the creation of a Hostile Work Environment based on Sexual orientation - this was essentially stated in the complaint. As I pointed out earlier in this thread, there are different forms of Sexual Harassment both verbal and physical in nature. This is clearly a case of Sexual Harassment. To compound this, at the time it was referred to as Sexual Harassment almost universally.

You seem to have some kind of agenda that if the actual Term "Sexual Harassment" was not used in Browne's tweet or otherwise that this somehow exonerates Isiah Thomas from wrongdoing and making it OK for him to be in a position of power over woman in the WNBA. I'm not sure in looking at this case and understanding that a Superior Court Judgement against him would show how that is the case, nor show how he is rehabilitated in any way. Dolan and Thomas can say what they want to the media about the case being a sham, but the proof is in the pudding. If they truly throught they had a case, they would have appealed the decision rather than paying the settlement to Browne.

So you can brush up on your legal understanding here is a link to the definition of Sexual Harassment - which falls under the Legal Tort definition of Sexual Discrimination. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionar...

DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ?????????
This is my response to you on page 6 of this thread are after you read me the complaint..: I read the complaint and the verdict that was in the NY Post..I have to keep doing this and it's tiring..

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Foosballnick, I know what the complaint said but what was the final verdict??????...You can say you went to the moon but can you prove it????..And why would he apologies if you didn't prove your case???..And who worked on Wall Street in the 80s????

Dolan and Isiah are the types who never admit they are/were wrong. They will rather die.
They are perfect creatures in their own mind.
There is no way this can change.
Just leave them alone in their misery.
The live will put everything and everybody in place they deserve.

Lol, this thread went exactly like I thought it would. Amazing

So it is true.. once you go black in bed, you don't go back... Isiah Thomas, you da man! Made Jimmy Dolan the house biatch he should have been all these years... was Dolan's A-hole as tight as before, Isiah?