Knicks · If we get Towns--anyway we can get Kaminsky? (page 1)

Would the Knicks be willing to trade Carmelo for a 6-10 pick and other assets? Id rather have Towns Kaminsky then Carmelo just for fit and sign DEmarre Carroll.

Short answer....NO.

Please stop with the Melo trade. They are NOT trading him.

mikesknicks wrote:Please stop with the Melo trade. They are NOT trading him.

ditto! lol. carmelo anthony wont be traded in the near future

Melo won't be traded, but I think it would be a smart move for the team to focus on our rebuild, and a smart move for Melo to find a contender with whom to chase his chip.

This would be an ideal draft to try to get two top 10 picks to fast track the rebuild.

If we have a rough year this year (which I think we won't) and if we strike out in FA the year after, Melo is GONE, count on it.
But I don't think it comes to that. At his age, I just doubt he will stick around if we can't retool by 2016.

Melo is so entrenched in NY business wise, he isn't going anywhere..He has offices in Manhattan and in Brooklyn..His private investment partnership is staggering..I'm sure he wants to be close to that..He also makes the rounds socially..He endorses upscale stores that isn't available outside of NY..Melo was never going anywhere..The move to NY suited him financially big time..

Moonangie wrote:Melo won't be traded, but I think it would be a smart move for the team to focus on our rebuild, and a smart move for Melo to find a contender with whom to chase his chip.

This would be an ideal draft to try to get two top 10 picks to fast track the rebuild.

I think Melos a great layer but hes not a fit for the team I envision. Id rather have two scorers in the post flanked by 3-4 guards capable of scoring 20 points on any given night and a guy like Carroll as my wing F who can guard the other teams best perimeter shooter yet hold his own on offense. Add in 2-3 nice back up bigs and 2-3 back ups wing guards and bang.

Melo is a leak he takes way too many shots which allows opposing teams to easily gear up to guard us and now he will be slower on D than he was before. Not saying he cant still be great --maybe like a Paul Pierce but thats just not what I personally would do.

can we get 5-10 more Frank the Tank threads?

yellowboy90 wrote:can we get 5-10 more Frank the Tank threads?

have no fear they will be there

yellowboy90 wrote:can we get 5-10 more Frank the Tank threads?

I have a few suggestions for new Kaminsky threads...

Kaminsky: Can we trade down for him (Part 3)..
Kaminsky: Can Melo play Robin to Frank's Batman..
Kaminsky: All Star for the next 10 years..
Kaminsky: More like Ewing than Melo..
Kaminsky: Can win twice as many rings as Dirk..
Kaminsky: Kanter lite(in the pants)..
Kaminsky: Kevin Love has nothing on him..
Kaminsky: Please don't compare him to Bargs..
Kaminsky: 3 years older than Towns..
Kaminsky: I can't believe he is really 7'1"..
Kaminsky: Brad Lohaus never had moves like this..
Kaminsky: If Phil drafts him then all is forgiven...

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:can we get 5-10 more Frank the Tank threads?

I have a few suggestions for new Kaminsky threads...

Kaminsky: Can we trade down for him (Part 3)..
Kaminsky: Can Melo play Robin to Frank's Batman..
Kaminsky: All Star for the next 10 years..
Kaminsky: More like Ewing than Melo..
Kaminsky: Can win twice as many rings as Dirk..
Kaminsky: Kanter lite(in the pants)..
Kaminsky: Kevin Love has nothing on him..
Kaminsky: Please don't compare him to Bargs..
Kaminsky: 3 years older than Towns..
Kaminsky: I can't believe he is really 7'1"..
Kaminsky: Brad Lohaus never had moves like this..
Kaminsky: If Phil drafts him then all is forgiven...

Kaminsky should coach the team.

if phil can coach then why can't keminsky coach?

kaminsky is taller than Phil

kaminsky also went to college like phil

kaminsky is younger than phil, therefore he must be smarter

kaminsky gets drafted by Utah, Utah doesn't play him cause he is just not dirk

we should trade for kaminsky

we should stretch thanasis and trade for kaminsky

I would love a team of Kaminsky, Nate Wolters, Kelly O, Whiteside and Shabaz Mohamad?

Can we trade Carmelo and our 2019 first rounder for the above + Embiid?

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:can we get 5-10 more Frank the Tank threads?

I have a few suggestions for new Kaminsky threads...

Kaminsky: Can we trade down for him (Part 3)..
Kaminsky: Can Melo play Robin to Frank's Batman..
Kaminsky: All Star for the next 10 years..
Kaminsky: More like Ewing than Melo..
Kaminsky: Can win twice as many rings as Dirk..
Kaminsky: Kanter lite(in the pants)..
Kaminsky: Kevin Love has nothing on him..
Kaminsky: Please don't compare him to Bargs..
Kaminsky: 3 years older than Towns..
Kaminsky: I can't believe he is really 7'1"..
Kaminsky: Brad Lohaus never had moves like this..
Kaminsky: If Phil drafts him then all is forgiven...

mreinman wrote:
Kaminsky should coach the team.

if phil can coach then why can't keminsky coach?

kaminsky is taller than Phil

kaminsky also went to college like phil

kaminsky is younger than phil, therefore he must be smarter

kaminsky gets drafted by Utah, Utah doesn't play him cause he is just not dirk

we should trade for kaminsky

we should stretch thanasis and trade for kaminsky

I would love a team of Kaminsky, Nate Wolters, Kelly O, Whiteside and Shabaz Mohamad?

Can we trade Carmelo and our 2019 first rounder for the above + Embiid?

lmao

The only place I see Melo being traded to now is the Lakers. I don't think that is happening either.

BRIGGS wrote:Would the Knicks be willing to trade Carmelo for a 6-10 pick and other assets? Id rather have Towns Kaminsky then Carmelo just for fit and sign DEmarre Carroll.

They cannot trade him, regardless of willingness. The fact that Melo just (like a month ago) closed on an $11MM condo near the highline speaks volumes to his commitment to being in NY. My only issue with Melo is his lack of commitment to defense (I wish he bought a condo on the defensive block). That said, he has every ability to be a good defender.

I agree if there was a trade, it would be to the Lakers. With arguably 4 years and 90mm left on his career, he can afford to keep the condo for those years. I would accept the Lakers pick for him. Not sure if I would take back any salary.

Regardless, I don't want to give up on Melo.

BRIGGS wrote:Would the Knicks be willing to trade Carmelo for a 6-10 pick and other assets? Id rather have Towns Kaminsky then Carmelo just for fit and sign DEmarre Carroll.

Oh good another Kaminsky thread from Briggs. LOL

if we take bad contracts bad, I do not fully consider David Lee a horrible contract if we get picks out of it, especially more than 1 1st rounder
However, if we take a Gereld Wallace, I think it is pretty safe to say Carmelo will not be happy and would want out if a team is offering a decent package for him to a contender, especially one that has no STATE TAX like Houston

Briggs, like I said, you get hot and cold, that is why a lot of posters want you to put all your thoughts in ONE POST so you can see yourself what you say that you forget....
You did this with CA like 10 last season when we knew he was going to OPT OUT of his contract, in which you at times suggest he is the best player available and a discount with the future cost of contracts and would be a steal

The next day you would say trade him for Nate Walters *the next Steve Nash* and Kelly Olynicks *the next Dirk*, and a Eric Green at most, I am serious
That was all you wanted and I am being generous because you would have done it for less
While drafting Mike Muscula with our pick, knowing that he will LIKELY be there at 30-36 but still willing to do it as he is a PF according to you and had advantages if playing PF and NOT CENTER
I like Muscuala, he has improved that he might not be the same player he is today with our poor development staff, look at Iman Shumpert now who was called CHUMP and called D LEAGUE garbage by you and many others while I stuck with him, saying we didn't have the players/talent around him that fit him

In the same draft for Iman Shumpert *who was my 2nd pick after Vucevic, while some wanted Jeremy TYler and Marshan Brooks*
You convinced the entire board or a good portion of it, even sayin it will take at least 1 year before he would likely contribute but when he does, he would be a TOP tier 1-3 pick
You kept it simple back then, with a couple years earlier, with Bynum and even the draft class for Gallo and Jordan Hill, that we should have taken Brook Lopez and/or traded down to get a Center, PG, or other NEEDS with more picks with many different possible scenarios though there would have also been a chance of some busts as well or a couple of combinations if we actually had a good development staff such as

Dragic
Ty Lawson
Jrue Holiday
Teague
Darren Collison
George Hill *and then maybe we could have got Kawaii*

even Derozan or Jennings *who we just released Marbury at the time so I understood we didn't want a *cocky, scoring PG*

Hibbert/McGeee and DeAndre Jordan/Asik who was selected in the 2nd round that you said could drop but would need time and could develop*

So instead of Gallo and Jordan Hill *who we had to get rid of with a future 1st rounder and swap* to unload Jared Jeffries which was making the MLE that Isiah Thomas targetted for a chance to get Lebron and another STAR, which if he did sign with us, I believe we would have won at least 1 ring with Gallo/Wilson Chandler/ and whoever else where draft in the future/MLE signings/ and the STAR to play with him if it wasn't AMARE

However, after hitting Vucevic on the spot, you just went from being HOT to 1 billion random thoughts that you saying very convincingly but change thoughts every 2 post to 2 days
And then bump a post that you want credit for when you also said 100 other things...

I think you have some sort of system in terms of evaluating risk/reward with college talents but your obsessions contradict your analysis of talent because you want to hit and reach for that player that NO ONE ELSE would consider, just to say "I KNEW IT and I TOLD YOU SO"

2009 draft
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1 1 Blake Griffin* PF United States Los Angeles Clippers Oklahoma (So.)
1 2 Hasheem Thabeet C Tanzania Memphis Grizzlies Connecticut (Jr.)
1 3 James Harden* SG United States Oklahoma City Thunder Arizona State (So.)
1 4 Tyreke Evans SG United States Sacramento Kings Memphis (Fr.)
1 5 Ricky Rubio PG Spain Minnesota Timberwolves (from Washington)[a] DKV Joventut (Spain) (born 1990)[19]
1 6 Jonny Flynn PG United States Minnesota Timberwolves[b] Syracuse (So.)
1 7 Stephen Curry* PG United States Golden State Warriors Davidson (Jr.)
1 8 Jordan Hill PF United States New York Knicks Arizona (Jr.)
1 9 DeMar DeRozan+ SG United States Toronto Raptors USC (Fr.)
1 10 Brandon Jennings PG United States Milwaukee Bucks Lottomatica Roma (Italy) (born 1989)[24]
1 11 Terrence Williams SG United States New Jersey Nets Louisville (Sr.)
1 12 Gerald Henderson SG United States Charlotte Bobcats Duke (Jr.)
1 13 Tyler Hansbrough PF United States Indiana Pacers North Carolina (Sr.)
1 14 Earl Clark SF United States Phoenix Suns Louisville (Jr.)
1 15 Austin Daye SF United States Detroit Pistons Gonzaga (So.)
1 16 James Johnson PF United States Chicago Bulls Wake Forest (So.)
1 17 Jrue Holiday+ PG United States Philadelphia 76ers UCLA (Fr.)
1 18 Ty Lawson PG United States Minnesota Timberwolves (from Miami,[c] traded to Denver)[A] North Carolina (Jr.)
1 19 Jeff Teague+ PG United States Atlanta Hawks Wake Forest (So.)
1 20 Eric Maynor PG United States Utah Jazz VCU (Sr.)
1 21 Darren Collison PG United States New Orleans Hornets UCLA (Sr.)
1 22 Víctor Claver SF Spain Portland Trail Blazers (from Dallas)[d] Pamesa Valencia (Spain) (born 1988)[19]
1 23 Omri Casspi SF Israel Sacramento Kings (from Houston)[e] Maccabi Tel Aviv (Israel) (born 1988)[19]
1 24 Byron Mullens C United States
United Kingdom Dallas Mavericks (from Portland,[d] traded to Oklahoma City)[B] Ohio State (Fr.)
1 25 Rodrigue Beaubois PG France Oklahoma City Thunder (from San Antonio,[f] traded to Dallas)[B] Cholet (France) (born 1988)[19]
1 26 Taj Gibson PF United States Chicago Bulls (from Denver via Oklahoma City)[g] USC (Jr.)
1 27 DeMarre Carroll SF United States Memphis Grizzlies (from Orlando)[h] Missouri (Sr.)
1 28 Wayne Ellington SG United States Minnesota Timberwolves (from Boston)[b] North Carolina (Jr.)
1 29 Toney Douglas PG United States Los Angeles Lakers (traded to New York)[C] Florida State (Sr.)
1 30 Christian Eyenga SF DR Congo Cleveland Cavaliers CB Prat (Spain, 3rd div.) (born 1989)[19]
2 31 Jeff Pendergraph PF United States Sacramento Kings (traded to Portland)[D] Arizona State (Sr.)
2 32 Jermaine Taylor SG United States Washington Wizards (traded to Houston)[E] Central Florida (Sr.)
2 33 Dante Cunningham PF United States Portland Trail Blazers (from LA Clippers)[j] Villanova (Sr.)
2 34 Sergio Llull[25]# PG Spain Denver Nuggets (from Oklahoma City,[k] traded to Houston)[F] Real Madrid (Spain) (born 1987)[26]
2 35 DaJuan Summers PF United States Detroit Pistons (from Minnesota)[l] Georgetown (Jr.)
2 36 Sam Young SF United States Memphis Grizzlies[m] Pittsburgh (Sr.)
2 37 DeJuan Blair PF United States San Antonio Spurs (from Golden State via Phoenix)[n] Pittsburgh (So.)
2 38 Jon Brockman PF United States Portland Trail Blazers (from New York via Chicago,[o] traded to Sacramento)[D] Washington (Sr.)
2 39 Jonas Jerebko PF Sweden Detroit Pistons (from Toronto)[p] Angelico Biella (Italy) (born 1987)[27]
2 40 Derrick Brown SF United States Charlotte Bobcats (from New Jersey via Oklahoma City)[q] Xavier (Jr.)
2 41 Jodie Meeks SG United States Milwaukee Bucks Kentucky (Jr.)
2 42 Patrick Beverley[28] PG United States Los Angeles Lakers (from Charlotte,[r] traded to Miami)[G] BC Dnipro (Ukraine, 2nd div.) (born 1988)[29]
2 43 Marcus Thornton SG United States Miami Heat (from Indiana,[s] traded to New Orleans)[H] LSU (Sr.)
2 44 Chase Budinger SF United States Detroit Pistons (traded to Houston)[I] Arizona (Jr.)
2 45 Nick Calathes PG Greecea[›] Minnesota Timberwolves (from Philadelphia via Miami,[t] traded to Dallas)[J] Florida (So.)
2 46 Danny Green SF United States Cleveland Cavaliers (from Chicago)[u] North Carolina (Sr.)
2 47 Henk Norel[30]# PF Netherlands Minnesota Timberwolves (from Miami)[t] DKV Joventut (Spain) (born 1987)[31]
2 48 Taylor Griffin SF United States Phoenix Suns Oklahoma (Sr.)
2 49 Sergiy Gladyr[32]# SG Ukraine Atlanta Hawks MBC Mykolaiv (Ukraine) (born 1989)[19]
2 50 Goran Suton[33]# C Bosnia and Herzegovina
United Statesb[›] Utah Jazz Michigan State (Sr.)
2 51 Jack McClinton[34]# SG United States San Antonio Spurs (from New Orleans via Toronto) Miami (FL) (Sr.)
2 52 A. J. Price PG United States Indiana Pacers (from Dallas)[w] Connecticut (Sr.)
2 53 Nando de Colo PG France San Antonio Spurs (from Houston)[x] Cholet (France) (born 1987)[35]
2 54 Robert Vaden[36]# SG United States Charlotte Bobcats (from San Antonio,[y] traded to Oklahoma City)[K] UAB (Sr.)
2 55 Patty Mills PG Australia Portland Trail Blazers (from Denver)[o] Saint Mary's (So.)
2 56 Ahmad Nivins[37]# PF United States Dallas Mavericks (from Portland)[d] Saint Joseph's (Sr.)
2 57 Emir Preldžič[38]# PF Slovenia
Turkeyc[›] Phoenix Suns (from Orlando via Oklahoma City,[z] traded to Cleveland)[L] Fenerbahçe Ülker (Turkey) (born 1988)[39]
2 58 Lester Hudson PG United States Boston Celtics Tennessee-Martin (Sr.)
2 59 Chinemelu Elonu[40]# PF Nigeria
United Statesd[›] Los Angeles Lakers Texas A&M (Jr.)
2 60 Robert Dozier[41]# SF United States Miami Heat (from Cleveland)[aa]

2008 draft
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1 1 Derrick Rose* PG United States Chicago Bulls Memphis (Fr.)
1 2 Michael Beasley SF United States Miami Heat Kansas State (Fr.)
1 3 O. J. Mayo SG United States Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Memphis)[a] USC (Fr.)
1 4 Russell Westbrook* PG United States Seattle SuperSonicsa[›] UCLA (So.)
1 5 Kevin Love* PF United States Memphis Grizzlies (traded to Minnesota)[a] UCLA (Fr.)
1 6 Danilo Gallinari SF Italy New York Knicks Olimpia Milano (Italy) 1988
1 7 Eric Gordon SG United States Los Angeles Clippers Indiana (Fr.)
1 8 Joe Alexander SF United States Milwaukee Bucks West Virginia (Jr.)
1 9 D. J. Augustin PG United States Charlotte Bobcats Texas (So.)
1 10 Brook Lopez+ C United States New Jersey Nets Stanford (So.)
1 11 Jerryd Bayless PG United States Indiana Pacers (traded to Portland)[b] Arizona (Fr.)
1 12 Jason Thompson PF United States Sacramento Kings Rider (Sr.)
1 13 Brandon Rush SG United States Portland Trail Blazers (traded to Indiana)[b] Kansas (Jr.)
1 14 Anthony Randolph PF United Statesb[›] Golden State Warriors LSU (Fr.)
1 15 Robin Lopez C United States Phoenix Suns (from Atlanta)[n] Stanford (So.)
1 16 Marreese Speights PF United States Philadelphia 76ers Florida (So.)
1 17 Roy Hibbert+ C United States
Jamaicac[›] Toronto Raptors (traded to Indiana)[c] Georgetown (Sr.)
1 18 JaVale McGee C United States Washington Wizards Nevada (So.)
1 19 J. J. Hickson PF United States Cleveland Cavaliers NC State (Fr.)
1 20 Alexis Ajinça C France Charlotte Bobcats (from Denver)[o] Hyères-Toulon (France) 1988
1 21 Ryan Anderson PF United States New Jersey Nets (from Dallas)[p] California (So.)
1 22 Courtney Lee SG United States Orlando Magic Western Kentucky (Sr.)
1 23 Kosta Koufos C Greeced[›] Utah Jazz Ohio State (Fr.)
1 24 Serge Ibaka PF Republic of the Congo
Spaine[›] Seattle SuperSonicsa[›] (from Phoenix)[q] L'Hospitalet (Spain) 1989
1 25 Nicolas Batum SF France Houston Rockets (traded to Portland)[d] Le Mans (France) 1988
1 26 George Hill PG United States San Antonio Spurs IUPUI (Jr.)
1 27 Darrell Arthur PF United States New Orleans Hornets (traded to Memphis via Portland)[d][e] Kansas (So.)
1 28 Donté Greene SF United Statesf[›] Memphis Grizzlies (from LA Lakers[r], traded to Houston)[d] Syracuse (Fr.)
1 29 D. J. White PF United States Detroit Pistons (traded to Seattle)a[›][f] Indiana (Sr.)
1 30 J. R. Giddens SG United States Boston Celtics New Mexico (Sr.)
2 31 Nikola Peković C Montenegro Minnesota Timberwolves (from Miami via Boston)[s] Panathinaikos (Greece) 1986
2 32 Walter Sharpe PF United States Seattle SuperSonicsa[›] (traded to Detroit)[f] UAB (Jr.)
2 33 Joey Dorsey PF United States Portland Trail Blazers (from Memphis[t], traded to Houston)[d] Memphis (Sr.)
2 34 Mario Chalmers PG United States Minnesota Timberwolves (traded to Miami)[g] Kansas (Jr.)
2 35 DeAndre Jordan C United States Los Angeles Clippers Texas A&M (Fr.)
2 36 Ömer Aşık C Turkey Portland Trail Blazers (from New York[u], traded to Chicago)[h] Fenerbahçe Ülker (Turkey) 1986
2 37 Luc Mbah a Moute SF Cameroon Milwaukee Bucks UCLA (Jr.)
2 38 Kyle Weaver SG United States Charlotte Bobcats Washington State (Sr.)
2 39 Sonny Weems SG United States Chicago Bulls (traded to Denver)[h] Arkansas (Sr.)
2 40 Chris Douglas-Roberts SG United States New Jersey Nets Memphis (Jr.)
2 41 Nathan Jawai PF Australia Indiana Pacers (traded to Toronto)[c] Cairns Taipans (Australia) 1986
2 42 Sean Singletary PG United States Sacramento Kings (from Atlanta) Virginia (Sr.)
2 43 Patrick Ewing, Jr. SF United States Sacramento Kings Georgetown (Sr.)
2 44 Ante Tomić# C Croatia Utah Jazz (from Philadelphia)[w] KK Zagreb (Croatia) 1987
2 45 Goran Dragićx PG Slovenia San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto[x], traded to Phoenix)[i] Union Olimpija (Slovenia) 1986
2 46 Trent Plaisted# PF United States Seattle SuperSonicsa[›] (from Portland via Boston[y], traded to Detroit)[f] BYU (Jr.)
2 47 Bill Walker SG United States Washington Wizards (traded to Boston)[j] Kansas State (Fr.)
2 48 Malik Hairston SG United States Phoenix Suns (from Cleveland[z], traded to San Antonio)[i] Oregon (Sr.)
2 49 Richard Hendrix# PF United States Golden State Warriors Alabama (Jr.)
2 50 DeVon Hardin# C United States Seattle SuperSonicsa[›] (from Denver)[aa] California (Sr.)
2 51 Shan Foster# SG United States Dallas Mavericks Vanderbilt (Sr.)
2 52 Darnell Jackson PF United States Miami Heat (from Orlando[ab], traded to Cleveland)[k] Kansas (Sr.)
2 53 Tadija Dragićević# PF Serbia Utah Jazz Red Star Belgrade (Serbia) 1986
2 54 Maarty Leunen# PF United States Houston Rockets[ac] Oregon (Sr.)
2 55 Mike Taylor PG United States Portland Trail Blazers (from Phoenix via Indiana[ad], traded to LA Clippers)[l] Idaho Stampede (D-League) 1986
2 56 Sasha Kaun# C Russia Seattle SuperSonicsa[›] (from New Orleans via Houston[ae], traded to Cleveland)[m] Kansas (Sr.)
2 57 James Gist# PF United Statesg[›] San Antonio Spurs Maryland (Sr.)
2 58 Joe Crawford SG United States Los Angeles Lakers Kentucky (Sr.)
2 59 Deron Washington# SF United States Detroit Pistons Virginia Tech (Sr.)
2 60 Semih Erden C Turkey Boston Celtics

Carmelo is an anti team character guy--he is no Tim Duncan. Character is a huge part of winning anything. Carmelo from minute 1 was a "me" guy and I don't think you win with a guy like that as your leader.
Carmelo needs to take the most shots he needed to play hurt so he could add to his All star appearances he needed to get traded at the time he wanted so the Knicks lost Gallo Chandler Mosgov and two first round picks--guys that couldve actually helped him win.
He's a great player but it would be in the Knicks "team" interests to have him be great somewhere else.

Guys like Towns okafor and Kaminsky will be far superior to Melo in 3 years and my take is w are not winning any titles in the next two. So if the Celtics are out there and can pull something off where we can Kamniksy and an additional pick and they get Carmelo--Id be pretty happy and we'd be closer to a winner.

RicanHavok wrote:

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:can we get 5-10 more Frank the Tank threads?

I have a few suggestions for new Kaminsky threads...

Kaminsky: Can we trade down for him (Part 3)..
Kaminsky: Can Melo play Robin to Frank's Batman..
Kaminsky: All Star for the next 10 years..
Kaminsky: More like Ewing than Melo..
Kaminsky: Can win twice as many rings as Dirk..
Kaminsky: Kanter lite(in the pants)..
Kaminsky: Kevin Love has nothing on him..
Kaminsky: Please don't compare him to Bargs..
Kaminsky: 3 years older than Towns..
Kaminsky: I can't believe he is really 7'1"..
Kaminsky: Brad Lohaus never had moves like this..
Kaminsky: If Phil drafts him then all is forgiven...

mreinman wrote:
Kaminsky should coach the team.

if phil can coach then why can't keminsky coach?

kaminsky is taller than Phil

kaminsky also went to college like phil

kaminsky is younger than phil, therefore he must be smarter

kaminsky gets drafted by Utah, Utah doesn't play him cause he is just not dirk

we should trade for kaminsky

we should stretch thanasis and trade for kaminsky

I would love a team of Kaminsky, Nate Wolters, Kelly O, Whiteside and Shabaz Mohamad?

Can we trade Carmelo and our 2019 first rounder for the above + Embiid?

lmao

He might end up being the UK version of Chuck Norris.

BRIGGS wrote:Carmelo is an anti team character guy--he is no Tim Duncan. Character is a huge part of winning anything. Carmelo from minute 1 was a "me" guy and I don't think you win with a guy like that as your leader.
Carmelo needs to take the most shots he needed to play hurt so he could add to his All star appearances he needed to get traded at the time he wanted so the Knicks lost Gallo Chandler Mosgov and two first round picks--guys that couldve actually helped him win.
He's a great player but it would be in the Knicks "team" interests to have him be great somewhere else.

Guys like Towns okafor and Kaminsky will be far superior to Melo in 3 years and my take is w are not winning any titles in the next two. So if the Celtics are out there and can pull something off where we can Kamniksy and an additional pick and they get Carmelo--Id be pretty happy and we'd be closer to a winner.

Translation, he was not worth what we gave him to us, and not a MAX PLAYER but you thought otherwise and now you want back in....
At least we didn't trade him for just Nate Walters/Kelly Olynicks in which you were willing to do last season as the next Steve Nash/Dirk Nowitski and Pau Gasol

though Kaminski resembles Dirk more than Kelly Olynicks, he is far from Dirk and lacks the extra couple inches in height/reach/ in addition to skills at their age
Dirk had a great all round game and was very light on his feet, that developed a great mid range game/post up game early at a HIGH % to facilitate as well/playing on and off the ball/great PnR player with Nash as both were GREAT SHOOTERS

That wasn't what you were saying FOR YOUR FINAL ANSWER before you flip flopped 10x already LOL
Either way, it depends, if we want to contend for a play off spot next year and go from their, try to accumulate talent, while having enough cap space for at least 1 MAXish talent and more in 2017...

If we do draft Towns, do you think we can pair him with Alex Ajinicia to be our PF/C's TOGETHER on the floor together effectively with CA and WITHOUT CA???
While developing together, especially if we in fact sign Monty Williams to help continue develop him as an assistant with Rasheed Wallace as a development coach, maybe Ben Wallace, and the trainor that worked with Anthony Davis and Ajinicia last season? Whoever deserves the credit and what they did, Monty Williams should have a better opinion that any one of us on their opinions/development on how to develop him and at what price is he worth it, does he have it in him

Can AJinicia be the next 7-2 PF/C like Ajinicia was and last season was just his first season to untapp his potential when the injuries to Anthony Davis/Asik/Ryan Anderson showed some of his abilities...
I do not know what he is really worth at this point but Monty Williams would probably have a better idea to know if "he has it" in him

I was surprised a bit that he didn't get more PT vs GS, with Anthony Davis and him being the best PF/C combo together to cover much ground on DEFENSE and REBOUNDS together
He tried to win and gave Ryan Anderson more PT, with some Asik and going smaller to match up with GS
Or maybe he was trying to hide his value as he is a UFA..
Maybe he had order to want to evaluate Ajinicia and he didn't follow them, so New Orleans can not determine if they should resign him and at what price or not... probably the most likely scenario for whatever reason

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Carmelo is an anti team character guy--he is no Tim Duncan. Character is a huge part of winning anything. Carmelo from minute 1 was a "me" guy and I don't think you win with a guy like that as your leader.
Carmelo needs to take the most shots he needed to play hurt so he could add to his All star appearances he needed to get traded at the time he wanted so the Knicks lost Gallo Chandler Mosgov and two first round picks--guys that couldve actually helped him win.
He's a great player but it would be in the Knicks "team" interests to have him be great somewhere else.

Guys like Towns okafor and Kaminsky will be far superior to Melo in 3 years and my take is w are not winning any titles in the next two. So if the Celtics are out there and can pull something off where we can Kamniksy and an additional pick and they get Carmelo--Id be pretty happy and we'd be closer to a winner.

Translation, he was not worth what we gave him to us, and not a MAX PLAYER but you thought otherwise and now you want back in....
At least we didn't trade him for just Nate Walters/Kelly Olynicks in which you were willing to do last season as the next Steve Nash/Dirk Nowitski and Pau Gasol

though Kaminski resembles Dirk more than Kelly Olynicks, he is far from Dirk and lacks the extra couple inches in height/reach/ in addition to skills at their age
Dirk had a great all round game and was very light on his feet, that developed a great mid range game/post up game early at a HIGH % to facilitate as well/playing on and off the ball/great PnR player with Nash as both were GREAT SHOOTERS

That wasn't what you were saying FOR YOUR FINAL ANSWER before you flip flopped 10x already LOL
Either way, it depends, if we want to contend for a play off spot next year and go from their, try to accumulate talent, while having enough cap space for at least 1 MAXish talent and more in 2017...

If we do draft Towns, do you think we can pair him with Alex Ajinicia to be our PF/C's TOGETHER on the floor together effectively with CA and WITHOUT CA???
While developing together, especially if we in fact sign Monty Williams to help continue develop him as an assistant with Rasheed Wallace as a development coach, maybe Ben Wallace, and the trainor that worked with Anthony Davis and Ajinicia last season? Whoever deserves the credit and what they did, Monty Williams should have a better opinion that any one of us on their opinions/development on how to develop him and at what price is he worth it, does he have it in him

Can AJinicia be the next 7-2 PF/C like Ajinicia was and last season was just his first season to untapp his potential when the injuries to Anthony Davis/Asik/Ryan Anderson showed some of his abilities...
I do not know what he is really worth at this point but Monty Williams would probably have a better idea to know if "he has it" in him

I was surprised a bit that he didn't get more PT vs GS, with Anthony Davis and him being the best PF/C combo together to cover much ground on DEFENSE and REBOUNDS together
He tried to win and gave Ryan Anderson more PT, with some Asik and going smaller to match up with GS
Or maybe he was trying to hide his value as he is a UFA..
Maybe he had order to want to evaluate Ajinicia and he didn't follow them, so New Orleans can not determine if they should resign him and at what price or not... probably the most likely scenario for whatever reason

Ron--Im not sure how many times youve seen Kelly Olynck play but if he did not have his foot issue hed already be a 17-7 player. Kaminsky is different his shot is pure and has better low post moves. Kaminsky is really good--lets wait and see.