Knicks · Blake Griffin 1 for 2 FT's today (page 1)

he is a good player but he has zero go to moves. And, the Houston left him wide opened for that stupid 20 footer.

Chris Paul played his heart out.

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

Was watching on and off but saw lots of rushed shots by the clips, early in the shot clock. It will be interesting to see what moves they make in the offseason. Steve Ballmer could be a real pyscho at Microsoft when he saw something he didn't like. Im curious to see how he reacts to this epic collapse.

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

Was watching on and off but saw lots of rushed shots by the clips, early in the shot clock. It will be interesting to see what moves they make in the offseason. Steve Ballmer could be a real pyscho at Microsoft when he saw something he didn't like. Im curious to see how he reacts to this epic collapse.

I don't think that they bring back DJ. I would not pay him the max.

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

Was watching on and off but saw lots of rushed shots by the clips, early in the shot clock. It will be interesting to see what moves they make in the offseason. Steve Ballmer could be a real pyscho at Microsoft when he saw something he didn't like. Im curious to see how he reacts to this epic collapse.

I don't think that they bring back DJ. I would not pay him the max.

As a final piece to a contender maybe, but that ain't us.

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

Was watching on and off but saw lots of rushed shots by the clips, early in the shot clock. It will be interesting to see what moves they make in the offseason. Steve Ballmer could be a real pyscho at Microsoft when he saw something he didn't like. Im curious to see how he reacts to this epic collapse.

I don't think that they bring back DJ. I would not pay him the max.

As a final piece to a contender maybe, but that ain't us.

agreed.

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

they both had mediocre TS% so you might say they cancelled each other out. the real glaring problem was jamal crawford. he really hurt the clippers on both ends.

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

So for 18 ft Harden really took 29 shot attempts...he scored 31 points on 29 shot attempts and that's good..Blake 13-24(include ft) isn't really good...You have lost your way brother...

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

they both had mediocre TS% so you might say they cancelled each other out. the real glaring problem was jamal crawford. he really hurt the clippers on both ends.

Game was long over before Jamal starting jacking up shots because no one else was helping CP3...57% is a great shooting night..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good because 15 of 18 ft is better due to the 9 attempts the statisticians don't count...Let make like the 9 attempts didn't happen, no one will notice...

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during which he was fouled 9 times that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...Nothing heroic about that in my eyes..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

they both had mediocre TS% so you might say they cancelled each other out. the real glaring problem was jamal crawford. he really hurt the clippers on both ends.

Game was long over before Jamal starting jacking up shots because no one else was helping CP3...57% is a great shooting night..

crawford came in with his team down by 1 and while he was in the lead grew to 7.
crawford continues to play halfway thru the second quarter as the lead balloons to 15.
crawford leaves the game and the clippers narrow the deficit to 8.
crawford finishes the half on the court as the lead goes back to 10.
crawford is on the bench for the start of 2nd half as the clippers get within 3 but then fall back by 8.
crawford enters the game halfway thru the 3rd with his team down 8 and stays in while they go down 17.
crawford leaves the game halfway thru the 4th with the team down 18.

so, no... jamal crawford hurt his team throughout the game and was on the floor the two times the rockets put a lot of distance between themselves and the clippers.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...