Knicks · Report: Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan Had ‘Falling Out’ This Season (page 1)

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/report-chris-paul

All eyes will be on DeAndre Jordan and the Clippers this summer, as the big man must decide whether to return to Los Angeles or sign with a new team in free agency. (Like Dallas, for example.)

Jordan reportedly wants a 5-year, $100 million max contract offer.

And while Clippers head coach Doc Rivers has sounded relatively confident that Jordan will re-sign with Lob City, at least on report suggests that DJ is ready to get the hell out of LA. Why? Apparently his relationship with Chris Paul may have soured throughout this season.

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This should be fun. Things have been a bit too boring in the NBA, especially with the clippers

Cp3 also had a falling out with Griffin. I think, like with Kobe, his intensity can sometimes rub players up the wrong way

smackeddog wrote:Cp3 also had a falling out with Griffin. I think, like with Kobe, his intensity can sometimes rub players up the wrong way

I bet we trade for him now

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/18/b...

and also butler and rose had a falling out. now the excuses will start to role out.smh

Cliff Paul covers up so much for Chris. However, I doubt Jordan leaves

I was mentioning this kind of thing earlier in the season when it came to talk about free agency. Some felt that players were pretty much a lock to stay with winning teams. But, every year when teams lose in the playoffs it leads to strife that can lead to a player moving. The pressure of a playoff run can really leave players wanting to move on after arguments and blame etc. It's human nature to sometimes have a negative feeling when a playoff run is over. Especially for teams that have been there a few years in a row like the Bulls. A young team like the Bucks can actually be emboldened while older teams are sick and tired of the situation after another losing playoff run.

callmened wrote:http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/18/b...

and also butler and rose had a falling out. now the excuses will start to role out.smh

wish i saw this before i sarted the thread

Who is going to give Jordan 100 mil knowing he needs a Chris Paul type player to excel...Clippers hands are tied because they are over already over the cap..If they give him 100 mil there are crazy..

holfresh wrote:Who is going to give Jordan 100 mil knowing he needs a Chris Paul type player to excel...Clippers hands are tied because they are over already over the cap..If they give him 100 mil there are crazy..

How did he play without Paul? I seem to remember the entire team excelling with Paul over the past few seasons when he was out. Maybe my memory is cloudy.

Tyson chandler seemed to excel without Chris Paul so why wouldn't Jordan. Tyson does shoot fits better but his efficiency stayed the same or even increased I think.

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Who is going to give Jordan 100 mil knowing he needs a Chris Paul type player to excel...Clippers hands are tied because they are over already over the cap..If they give him 100 mil there are crazy..

How did he play without Paul? I seem to remember the entire team excelling with Paul over the past few seasons when he was out. Maybe my memory is cloudy.

Tyson chandler seemed to excel without Chris Paul so why wouldn't Jordan. Tyson does shoot fits better but his efficiency stayed the same or even increased I think.

U really going to hang you hat on one game??..Really??..Didn't JVG once say this playoff that in cases like that, the team is essentially playing on adrenalin that gets them through a couple of games..How come the rest of the team didn't show up for the big game yesterday??..U talking Flu Tyson excelling with out Paul??..U are kidding right??..Knicks were desperate to get a defensive big and overpaid..How come the Mavs didn't reup him after a Chip??..And do u believe DJordan is worth 20 mil per???

mreinman wrote:

Ha ha! I'd forgotten about that! CP3s expression is hilarious

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Who is going to give Jordan 100 mil knowing he needs a Chris Paul type player to excel...Clippers hands are tied because they are over already over the cap..If they give him 100 mil there are crazy..

How did he play without Paul? I seem to remember the entire team excelling with Paul over the past few seasons when he was out. Maybe my memory is cloudy.

Tyson chandler seemed to excel without Chris Paul so why wouldn't Jordan. Tyson does shoot fits better but his efficiency stayed the same or even increased I think.

U really going to hang you hat on one game??..Really??..Didn't JVG once say this playoff that in cases like that, the team is essentially playing on adrenalin that gets them through a couple of games..How come the rest of the team didn't show up for the big game yesterday??..U talking Flu Tyson excelling with out Paul??..U are kidding right??..Knicks were desperate to get a defensive big and overpaid..How come the Mavs didn't reup him after a Chip??..And do u believe DJordan is worth 20 mil per???

I am talking about the times Paul has been out during the season in the past. This year he played the entire year but in the past the Clips played just as well for the most part.

I bring up Tyson because he was who he was with or without Paul just like Jordan would probably be. Do you think Tyson was a different player without paul?

About the Money no I wouldn't pay him that much but I wouldn't give a lot of players some of their contracts and their have been some players that I would give money to that wasn't worth it. Dallas made a mistake by breaking up that team. They have made several mistakes giving up draft picks and chasing Howard and D Williams. They got lucky on that kind of because at least they were not stuck with him on the books. I am just arguing he doesn't need a Chris Paul type.

DeAndre is one player I think worth $100M - he is young, tremendous impact on the game defensively, and with a system, offensively.

I think we'd be lucky to add him. If we got him, Russel with our pick, healthy Melo and some nice filler, no reason the team can't compete for 8th seed or higher and perhaps a 1st round win.

franco12 wrote:DeAndre is one player I think worth $100M - he is young, tremendous impact on the game defensively, and with a system, offensively.

I think we'd be lucky to add him. If we got him, Russel with our pick, healthy Melo and some nice filler, no reason the team can't compete for 8th seed or higher and perhaps a 1st round win.

Gotta admit that would be a nice Combination. Jordan is a literal beast. Just watching him on the boards and on D he's a real force. I'd make him get with the best big man coach and work night and day on just a couple of basic post moves and making passes out of the post. IMO you can't only have him be a lob catcher. Teaching someone how to throw hooks off the backboard isn't impossible IMO.

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:DeAndre is one player I think worth $100M - he is young, tremendous impact on the game defensively, and with a system, offensively.

I think we'd be lucky to add him. If we got him, Russel with our pick, healthy Melo and some nice filler, no reason the team can't compete for 8th seed or higher and perhaps a 1st round win.

Gotta admit that would be a nice Combination. Jordan is a literal beast. Just watching him on the boards and on D he's a real force. I'd make him get with the best big man coach and work night and day on just a couple of basic post moves and making passes out of the post. IMO you can't only have him be a lob catcher. Teaching someone how to throw hooks off the backboard isn't impossible IMO.

and you think that nobody ever attempted to coach him before? He is not changing his game ... he can't even figure out how to hit a damn foul shot.

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:DeAndre is one player I think worth $100M - he is young, tremendous impact on the game defensively, and with a system, offensively.

I think we'd be lucky to add him. If we got him, Russel with our pick, healthy Melo and some nice filler, no reason the team can't compete for 8th seed or higher and perhaps a 1st round win.

Gotta admit that would be a nice Combination. Jordan is a literal beast. Just watching him on the boards and on D he's a real force. I'd make him get with the best big man coach and work night and day on just a couple of basic post moves and making passes out of the post. IMO you can't only have him be a lob catcher. Teaching someone how to throw hooks off the backboard isn't impossible IMO.

and you think that nobody ever attempted to coach him before? He is not changing his game ... he can't even figure out how to hit a damn foul shot.

Hey Amundson and Cole were never really given a chance to handle the ball in their careers and they came here and were allowed to try. Amundson actually got a little better and even tho Cole can be frustrating he was showing some signs of improvement. You have to put them in game situations and allow them to gain some confidence doing things they may never have been asked to do. Amundson was really good moving the ball and Cole did learn to make the passes in the Triangle. They weren't great but they did show some growth. Pretty much all of our bigs were taught to be pivot passers and I think it made them a little better. Acy started hitting 3's and Jason Smith started to stretch his range. You can't just assume that players will never improve.

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:DeAndre is one player I think worth $100M - he is young, tremendous impact on the game defensively, and with a system, offensively.

I think we'd be lucky to add him. If we got him, Russel with our pick, healthy Melo and some nice filler, no reason the team can't compete for 8th seed or higher and perhaps a 1st round win.

Gotta admit that would be a nice Combination. Jordan is a literal beast. Just watching him on the boards and on D he's a real force. I'd make him get with the best big man coach and work night and day on just a couple of basic post moves and making passes out of the post. IMO you can't only have him be a lob catcher. Teaching someone how to throw hooks off the backboard isn't impossible IMO.

and you think that nobody ever attempted to coach him before? He is not changing his game ... he can't even figure out how to hit a damn foul shot.

Hey Amundson and Cole were never really given a chance to handle the ball in their careers and they came here and were allowed to try. Amundson actually got a little better and even tho Cole can be frustrating he was showing some signs of improvement. You have to put them in game situations and allow them to gain some confidence doing things they may never have been asked to do. Amundson was really good moving the ball and Cole did learn to make the passes in the Triangle. They weren't great but they did show some growth. Pretty much all of our bigs were taught to be pivot passers and I think it made them a little better. Acy started hitting 3's and Jason Smith started to stretch his range. You can't just assume that players will never improve.

DeAndre will never be Patrick Ewing with a soft touch. But can you hold his own on the offensive end, and develop? He's 26- that is 4 years younger than Melo.

imho he is definitely worth 100 mill

franco12 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:DeAndre is one player I think worth $100M - he is young, tremendous impact on the game defensively, and with a system, offensively.

I think we'd be lucky to add him. If we got him, Russel with our pick, healthy Melo and some nice filler, no reason the team can't compete for 8th seed or higher and perhaps a 1st round win.

Gotta admit that would be a nice Combination. Jordan is a literal beast. Just watching him on the boards and on D he's a real force. I'd make him get with the best big man coach and work night and day on just a couple of basic post moves and making passes out of the post. IMO you can't only have him be a lob catcher. Teaching someone how to throw hooks off the backboard isn't impossible IMO.

and you think that nobody ever attempted to coach him before? He is not changing his game ... he can't even figure out how to hit a damn foul shot.

Hey Amundson and Cole were never really given a chance to handle the ball in their careers and they came here and were allowed to try. Amundson actually got a little better and even tho Cole can be frustrating he was showing some signs of improvement. You have to put them in game situations and allow them to gain some confidence doing things they may never have been asked to do. Amundson was really good moving the ball and Cole did learn to make the passes in the Triangle. They weren't great but they did show some growth. Pretty much all of our bigs were taught to be pivot passers and I think it made them a little better. Acy started hitting 3's and Jason Smith started to stretch his range. You can't just assume that players will never improve.

DeAndre will never be Patrick Ewing with a soft touch. But can you hold his own on the offensive end, and develop? He's 26- that is 4 years younger than Melo.

That's what I'm saying. I realize he's not going to be the smoothest but to coach him up to be competent and confident is still possible. People forget how AWFUL Dwight Howard used to be. He's a lot better than he was. He's still no Tim Duncan but he's lightyears better than he used to be at posting up.