holfresh wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:NY did not want to trade Mozgov. Shump was not resigning here. Smith? Really are we really missing JR Smith now? Come on.
They are playing with the best player on the planet. On their own they would be not so good.
Cop out answer...
Shump is putting up exactly and I mean exactly the same numbers in Cleveland that he did in NY..JR was playing better with us when he was sixth man of the year..If you were honest, you would mention that they were not put in the best situation to suit their abilities here...LeBron is absolutely a factor, but those guys would perform here is givein similiar roles here...Our GM and coach wants to win a certain way, their way...
They were scapegoats, they got the blame for the triangle not working...
did you actually look at JR's numbers compared to his overall knicks numbers? not close.
what numbers to you actually look at?
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:NY did not want to trade Mozgov. Shump was not resigning here. Smith? Really are we really missing JR Smith now? Come on.
They are playing with the best player on the planet. On their own they would be not so good.
Cop out answer...
Shump is putting up exactly and I mean exactly the same numbers in Cleveland that he did in NY..JR was playing better with us when he was sixth man of the year..If you were honest, you would mention that they were not put in the best situation to suit their abilities here...LeBron is absolutely a factor, but those guys would perform here is givein similiar roles here...Our GM and coach wants to win a certain way, their way...
They were scapegoats, they got the blame for the triangle not working...
did you actually look at JR's numbers compared to his overall knicks numbers? not close.
what numbers to you actually look at?
He was talking about Shump.
mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:NY did not want to trade Mozgov. Shump was not resigning here. Smith? Really are we really missing JR Smith now? Come on.
They are playing with the best player on the planet. On their own they would be not so good.
Cop out answer...
Shump is putting up exactly and I mean exactly the same numbers in Cleveland that he did in NY..JR was playing better with us when he was sixth man of the year..If you were honest, you would mention that they were not put in the best situation to suit their abilities here...LeBron is absolutely a factor, but those guys would perform here is givein similiar roles here...Our GM and coach wants to win a certain way, their way...
They were scapegoats, they got the blame for the triangle not working...
did you actually look at JR's numbers compared to his overall knicks numbers? not close.
what numbers to you actually look at?
.
Did you read what I wrote?..If you read what I wrote and checked JR numbers for that year then you wouldn't post that comment..
holfresh wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:NY did not want to trade Mozgov. Shump was not resigning here. Smith? Really are we really missing JR Smith now? Come on.
They are playing with the best player on the planet. On their own they would be not so good.
Cop out answer...
Shump is putting up exactly and I mean exactly the same numbers in Cleveland that he did in NY..JR was playing better with us when he was sixth man of the year..If you were honest, you would mention that they were not put in the best situation to suit their abilities here...LeBron is absolutely a factor, but those guys would perform here is givein similiar roles here...Our GM and coach wants to win a certain way, their way...
They were scapegoats, they got the blame for the triangle not working...
did you actually look at JR's numbers compared to his overall knicks numbers? not close.
what numbers to you actually look at?
.
Did you read what I wrote?..If you read what I wrote and checked JR numbers for that year then you wouldn't post that comment..
he has been far more efficient on the cavs then he was that year.
see TS
JR efficiency numbers do look better(not even close) but what's interesting is his ast'd % on 3s is similar to what he was getting in NY. It was actually ore in Ny but he is getting more corner 3pta in Cle than in NY.
Another interesting thing to note is that they may have gotten JR in his Normal season upswing. If I remember correctly over the years his second halves are way better than his 1st halves. Like always this may be a case of JR being JR.
FireWoodson wrote:Why do you people always make excuses for not having Shump and JR on our team anymore? Yeah, they both could be inconsistent as hell, but when they are on, they are ON! Don't you want players on your team who are a step above most other players in the league?As for Mozgov...I remember the first game he cranked 18 points for us. Eyes open wider than they were already open. I knew he was a top player. Why didn't the Knicks organization know what I and other good fans saw?
This is too funny. What did you think of him when he was #53 on the Nuggets depth chart? When he couldn't see daylight past all those top 5 centers on the Nuggets?
5 years later and you just knew he was a top player.
Good thing for LeQ, Moz's become a top player just like you knew all those years ago. I wonder where he'll get traded next?
Hey Dr. A! Thought you were trying to go incognito with the internet presence?
jrodmc wrote:FireWoodson wrote:Why do you people always make excuses for not having Shump and JR on our team anymore? Yeah, they both could be inconsistent as hell, but when they are on, they are ON! Don't you want players on your team who are a step above most other players in the league?As for Mozgov...I remember the first game he cranked 18 points for us. Eyes open wider than they were already open. I knew he was a top player. Why didn't the Knicks organization know what I and other good fans saw?
This is too funny. What did you think of him when he was #53 on the Nuggets depth chart? When he couldn't see daylight past all those top 5 centers on the Nuggets?
5 years later and you just knew he was a top player.
Good thing for LeQ, Moz's become a top player just like you knew all those years ago. I wonder where he'll get traded next?
Hey Dr. A! Thought you were trying to go incognito with the internet presence?
With poignant wisdom like this, how can I leave?
So is FireWoodson only going to show up when JR and Shump hit some shots and then disappear when they play badly and then reappear when they play well again to claim they have been great all along?
smackeddog wrote:So is FireWoodson only going to show up when JR and Shump hit some shots and then disappear when they play badly and then reappear when they play well again to claim they have been great all along?
JR and Shump are in the Finals..They are tied 1-1 with home court advantage..What is a Knick fan gonna say..JR can show up next game and rain 8 threes and no one will remember game 2..But that's JR..
holfresh wrote:smackeddog wrote:So is FireWoodson only going to show up when JR and Shump hit some shots and then disappear when they play badly and then reappear when they play well again to claim they have been great all along?
JR and Shump are in the Finals..They are tied 1-1 with home court advantage..What is a Knick fan gonna say..JR can show up next game and rain 8 threes and no one will remember game 2..But that's JR..
Jr is Starks-like in that aspect. Talent there but mentally weak.
