this article reads like Briggs' worst nightmare.
It's pretty much the same things I've been saying I think Phil should do. I don't know if this is Phil testing the waters to see how people respond. It would seem like that is one explanation for Rosen talking this much about what Phil should do in his mind. I can't imagine that Phil hasn't said something to him about his comments in the past, so if he's still talking then it must be with Phil's blessing. But is it a trial balloon or just a smokescreen?
Is this Phil leaking his intentions or just putting out some propaganda to throw others off the trail. It sure sounds like something Phil would actually be inclined to do. If we see Towns, Okafor and Russell go 1, 2, 3, then I would think this is a real possibility.
Monroe and Stein would make a lot of sense. I would hope Phil could add another pick in this draft or trade down and grab more assets, but in the end I think he'd be looking for this kind of front court with Melo. I have to think Phil wants another pick in this draft and will get one.
nixluva wrote:It's pretty much the same things I've been saying I think Phil should do. I don't know if this is Phil testing the waters to see how people respond. It would seem like that is one explanation for Rosen talking this much about what Phil should do in his mind. I can't imagine that Phil hasn't said something to him about his comments in the past, so if he's still talking then it must be with Phil's blessing. But is it a trial balloon or just a smokescreen?
Is this Phil leaking his intentions or just putting out some propaganda to throw others off the trail. It sure sounds like something Phil would actually be inclined to do. If we see Towns, Okafor and Russell go 1, 2, 3, then I would think this is a real possibility. Monroe and Stein would make a lot of sense. I would hope Phil could add another pick in this draft or trade down and grab more assets, but in the end I think he'd be looking for this kind of front court with Melo. I have to think Phil wants another pick in this draft and will get one.
We've all suspected this is the plan for a while now. Maybe Rosen reads this board.
crzymdups wrote:nixluva wrote:It's pretty much the same things I've been saying I think Phil should do. I don't know if this is Phil testing the waters to see how people respond. It would seem like that is one explanation for Rosen talking this much about what Phil should do in his mind. I can't imagine that Phil hasn't said something to him about his comments in the past, so if he's still talking then it must be with Phil's blessing. But is it a trial balloon or just a smokescreen?
Is this Phil leaking his intentions or just putting out some propaganda to throw others off the trail. It sure sounds like something Phil would actually be inclined to do. If we see Towns, Okafor and Russell go 1, 2, 3, then I would think this is a real possibility. Monroe and Stein would make a lot of sense. I would hope Phil could add another pick in this draft or trade down and grab more assets, but in the end I think he'd be looking for this kind of front court with Melo. I have to think Phil wants another pick in this draft and will get one.
We've all suspected this is the plan for a while now. Maybe Rosen reads this board.
Rosen was pretty high on Monroe months ago. He's a pretty close friend of Phil for a LONG time. I can't understand the purpose of this kind of talk if not to test the waters of public opinion or as a smokescreen. Why say all of this before the draft that your friend is about to enter if it's exactly what Phil intends on doing? Phil can't say this stuff but Rosen can.
Music to my ears. Carmelo, Stein and Monroe would be a winning front court
Knicks1969 wrote:Music to my ears. Carmelo, Stein and Monroe would be a winning front court
I'd love to see Shved, Carroll or Danny Green in the SL and Ajinca off the bench added to that mix.
nixluva wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Music to my ears. Carmelo, Stein and Monroe would be a winning front court
I'd love to see Shved, Carroll or Danny Green in the SL and Ajinca off the bench added to that mix.
Shved, Carroll,Carmelo,Monroe, and Stein
Langston, THJ, Early, Lou Admunson, and a backup center (Lopez)
God please no. At least if we are going to blow a pick on a defensive specialist can we trade down and get something else with it??
crzymdups wrote:nixluva wrote:It's pretty much the same things I've been saying I think Phil should do. I don't know if this is Phil testing the waters to see how people respond. It would seem like that is one explanation for Rosen talking this much about what Phil should do in his mind. I can't imagine that Phil hasn't said something to him about his comments in the past, so if he's still talking then it must be with Phil's blessing. But is it a trial balloon or just a smokescreen?
Is this Phil leaking his intentions or just putting out some propaganda to throw others off the trail. It sure sounds like something Phil would actually be inclined to do. If we see Towns, Okafor and Russell go 1, 2, 3, then I would think this is a real possibility. Monroe and Stein would make a lot of sense. I would hope Phil could add another pick in this draft or trade down and grab more assets, but in the end I think he'd be looking for this kind of front court with Melo. I have to think Phil wants another pick in this draft and will get one.
We've all suspected this is the plan for a while now. Maybe Rosen reads this board.
Maybe Nixluva IS Charlie Rosen! 
tj23 wrote:God please no. At least if we are going to blow a pick on a defensive specialist can we trade down and get something else with it??
Problem is the King's want WCS, so really you can only trade down with the Magic.
crzymdups wrote:this article reads like Briggs' worst nightmare.
Well if we plan to do battle with Monroe Calderon svhyed Carmelo and Stein will be shred to pieces. I guess the team does believe stein can guard 5 positions at once.
How many flaws here. Too many to count. We'd get destroyed in transition. If we're going to pick Stein than juzt leave him at C. T says Stein is up to 250 must give him space let him
play 5 and give him time to work. If we can do that trade where we get 6-13 and somehow we pi k up Stein and Kaminsky or Turner I'd rather go that angle. Calderon is a bust.
I can live with Stein at 5 Without MONROE -- dedicating to both is not my cup of tea. We need to think of pace tempo spacing and penetration. Stein did not work well on offense with a clogged lane I DO think he has potential as a pure 5 IF we spread the floor and speed up tempo. I once saw Stein play the 5 against providence two years ago where he was the guy and he played great.If we can get that type of action from the 5 Wed be fine. Anyone can see Stein did NOT work well on offense with other interior offensive players. If we dedicate pick 4 then give him the 5
I love the 2 nd rd of this draft. I really believe we can score big for minimal investment. 4 year players who can help now and make us a mu h deeper team. We need some size speed athletiscm and 3 point shooting that we can acquire in a smart way through all areas free agency the d league 2 nd rd and udfa looking overseas and potentially using our cap space as a way to facilitate trades and or absorb contracts.
I can see where a team using a faster tempo could use Stein. I don't think the NBA is going in the direction of 2 interior 7 footers with slow perimeter players.
Enjoy the day
BRIGGS wrote:crzymdups wrote:this article reads like Briggs' worst nightmare.
Well if we plan to do battle with Monroe Calderon svhyed Carmelo and Stein will be shred to pieces. I guess the team does believe stein can guard 5 positions at once.
How many flaws here. Too many to count. We'd get destroyed in transition. If we're going to pick Stein than juzt leave him at C. T says Stein is up to 250 must give him space let him
play 5 and give him time to work. If we can do that trade where we get 6-13 and somehow we pi k up Stein and Kaminsky or Turner I'd rather go that angle. Calderon is a bust.
I can live with Stein at 5 Without MONROE -- dedicating to both is not my cup of tea. We need to think of pace tempo spacing and penetration. Stein did not work well on offense with a clogged lane I DO think he has potential as a pure 5 IF we spread the floor and speed up tempo. I once saw Stein play the 5 against providence two years ago where he was the guy and he played great.If we can get that type of action from the 5 Wed be fine. Anyone can see Stein did NOT work well on offense with other interior offensive players. If we dedicate pick 4 then give him the 5
I love the 2 nd rd of this draft. I really believe we can score big for minimal investment. 4 year players who can help now and make us a mu h deeper team. We need some size speed athletiscm and 3 point shooting that we can acquire in a smart way through all areas free agency the d league 2 nd rd and udfa looking overseas and potentially using our cap space as a way to facilitate trades and or absorb contracts.
I can see where a team using a faster tempo could use Stein. I don't think the NBA is going in the direction of 2 interior 7 footers with slow perimeter players.
Enjoy the day
We simply can't be a winning formula with a slow and poor defender like Calderon in the mix. Let him go and resign Larkins, because his second year with Knicks will be far better; specifically, if Stein is in the front court. That would give two defensive assassins at the bottom and top of the rotation.
I am iffy about this guy. He was the guy who went out there and said "the knicks don't want Towns" and we all know they wanted towns. Now he is saying they want WCS with Monroe when it doesn't make any sense to match those two.
3 more days of speculation though
What he's saying doesn't add up in my mind. He has lots of great offensive moves but five freshmen and sophomores were ahead of him in the shot charts? If he can't move above college freshmen in the shot charts, why would we give him shots in our offense rather than giving them to other NBA players? This must mean one of three things: our players are inferior to Kentucky's freshmen and sophomores, or Calipari was clueless, or Stein does not have moves that work in games. As much as we joke around about our roster, the third option is the only one that makes sense.
At least we won the final 2 games of the regular season
this lost all credibility:
Rosen thinks Jackson’s disappointing addition last offseason, Jose Calderon, who will be 34 in September, is going to give the Knicks a lot more in the final two years of his contract. Calderon, who strained his calf in training camp, played in just 42 games.“Calderon can still be great in the triangle,’’ Rosen said. “He can read [Carmelo Anthony] very well. The whole season he was injured.’’
How can you project Calderon will be healthy? Just like Bargs, we can't count on him to contribute anything except a warm body on the bench, possibly in street clothes.
smackeddog wrote:crzymdups wrote:nixluva wrote:It's pretty much the same things I've been saying I think Phil should do. I don't know if this is Phil testing the waters to see how people respond. It would seem like that is one explanation for Rosen talking this much about what Phil should do in his mind. I can't imagine that Phil hasn't said something to him about his comments in the past, so if he's still talking then it must be with Phil's blessing. But is it a trial balloon or just a smokescreen?
Is this Phil leaking his intentions or just putting out some propaganda to throw others off the trail. It sure sounds like something Phil would actually be inclined to do. If we see Towns, Okafor and Russell go 1, 2, 3, then I would think this is a real possibility. Monroe and Stein would make a lot of sense. I would hope Phil could add another pick in this draft or trade down and grab more assets, but in the end I think he'd be looking for this kind of front court with Melo. I have to think Phil wants another pick in this draft and will get one.
We've all suspected this is the plan for a while now. Maybe Rosen reads this board.
Maybe Nixluva IS Charlie Rosen!
i think they're the same age :)
crzymdups wrote:this article reads like Briggs' worst nightmare.
Hahahahaha that's just what I was thinking when I posted it.
i dont mind drafting WCS but just not at #4. trading down to acquire a starting PG and adding WCS is fine. this same philosophy of monroe paired with another defensive big didnt exactly work in detroit. but i think alot of that was poor guard play. we would need to add decent guard play then
nixluva wrote:It's pretty much the same things I've been saying I think Phil should do. I don't know if this is Phil testing the waters to see how people respond. It would seem like that is one explanation for Rosen talking this much about what Phil should do in his mind. I can't imagine that Phil hasn't said something to him about his comments in the past, so if he's still talking then it must be with Phil's blessing. But is it a trial balloon or just a smokescreen?
Is this Phil leaking his intentions or just putting out some propaganda to throw others off the trail. It sure sounds like something Phil would actually be inclined to do. If we see Towns, Okafor and Russell go 1, 2, 3, then I would think this is a real possibility. Monroe and Stein would make a lot of sense. I would hope Phil could add another pick in this draft or trade down and grab more assets, but in the end I think he'd be looking for this kind of front court with Melo. I have to think Phil wants another pick in this draft and will get one.
First of all, thanks Nix for helping me out with how to post links on here cause I wouldn't of been able to post this without your help. Your gotta believe that Rosen definitely has some insight on what Phil is thinking but he also doesn't know how the draft is gonna fall and what trade offers we'll be getting but i've also been ok with the WCS/Monroe combo down low and think each one gives what the other doesn't so they could make a great team down low. I'm hoping Phil gets the perfect trade down offer which gives us a veteran to start right away and a draft pick or multiple draft picks that can also help us. I can't wait for the draft to get here and with as much bad that has happened with our Knicks over the last however many i hope we make up for some of that and things go in a great way for us in this draft and free agency.
