Knicks · Once and for all, who do we pick? (page 2)

jbeachboy wrote:stein has this problem as well

When asked about how he might have posted a triple-double if he played more minutes, Cauley-Stein said, "I was having a sickle cell problem. My chest starts to hurt."

Apparently, it's a recurring issue.

"Some days, just randomly, I've had real bad chest pain," he said. "I can't, like, breathe and my heart rate won't come down. I have to stop and wait for it to come down."

Cauley-Stein said he does not take medication to treat the sickle cell trait.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/11/2983379_kentuckys-cauley-stein-adding.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

This is a serious deal breaker. Get a 2nd round pick and go for him. Chest pains??? Sickle Cell traits??? And this is the guy people want to take with our ONLY 1st round pick for 2 YEARS? HELL NO!!!. Oh wait, he also has a pin in his leg to correct a stress fracture? The operation might need to be performed again to make sure that it is done correctly??? WTF!!!. Can we PLEASE MOVE ALONG!!!

Mudiay
Porzingas
Winslow
we are going to get one of these three guys

Sangfroid wrote:

jbeachboy wrote:stein has this problem as well

When asked about how he might have posted a triple-double if he played more minutes, Cauley-Stein said, "I was having a sickle cell problem. My chest starts to hurt."

Apparently, it's a recurring issue.

"Some days, just randomly, I've had real bad chest pain," he said. "I can't, like, breathe and my heart rate won't come down. I have to stop and wait for it to come down."

Cauley-Stein said he does not take medication to treat the sickle cell trait.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/11/2983379_kentuckys-cauley-stein-adding.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

This is a serious deal breaker. Get a 2nd round pick and go for him. Chest pains??? Sickle Cell traits??? And this is the guy people want to take with our ONLY 1st round pick for 2 YEARS? HELL NO!!!. Oh wait, he also has a pin in his leg to correct a stress fracture? The operation might need to be performed again to make sure that it is done correctly??? WTF!!!. Can we PLEASE MOVE ALONG!!!

Bluebird bio has a treatment coming around for sickle cell.

Vmart wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

jbeachboy wrote:stein has this problem as well

When asked about how he might have posted a triple-double if he played more minutes, Cauley-Stein said, "I was having a sickle cell problem. My chest starts to hurt."

Apparently, it's a recurring issue.

"Some days, just randomly, I've had real bad chest pain," he said. "I can't, like, breathe and my heart rate won't come down. I have to stop and wait for it to come down."

Cauley-Stein said he does not take medication to treat the sickle cell trait.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/11/2983379_kentuckys-cauley-stein-adding.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

This is a serious deal breaker. Get a 2nd round pick and go for him. Chest pains??? Sickle Cell traits??? And this is the guy people want to take with our ONLY 1st round pick for 2 YEARS? HELL NO!!!. Oh wait, he also has a pin in his leg to correct a stress fracture? The operation might need to be performed again to make sure that it is done correctly??? WTF!!!. Can we PLEASE MOVE ALONG!!!

Bluebird bio has a treatment coming around for sickle cell.

That company went up nearly 800% this year.

Vmart wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

jbeachboy wrote:stein has this problem as well

When asked about how he might have posted a triple-double if he played more minutes, Cauley-Stein said, "I was having a sickle cell problem. My chest starts to hurt."

Apparently, it's a recurring issue.

"Some days, just randomly, I've had real bad chest pain," he said. "I can't, like, breathe and my heart rate won't come down. I have to stop and wait for it to come down."

Cauley-Stein said he does not take medication to treat the sickle cell trait.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/11/2983379_kentuckys-cauley-stein-adding.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

This is a serious deal breaker. Get a 2nd round pick and go for him. Chest pains??? Sickle Cell traits??? And this is the guy people want to take with our ONLY 1st round pick for 2 YEARS? HELL NO!!!. Oh wait, he also has a pin in his leg to correct a stress fracture? The operation might need to be performed again to make sure that it is done correctly??? WTF!!!. Can we PLEASE MOVE ALONG!!!

Bluebird bio has a treatment coming around for sickle cell.

That's great news for those who are afflicted by the illness. Hopefully WCS gets the help he needs and benefits from the program. Unfortunately, that does nothing for his position before tomorrow night. Still NO.

BRIGGS wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

jbeachboy wrote:stein has this problem as well

When asked about how he might have posted a triple-double if he played more minutes, Cauley-Stein said, "I was having a sickle cell problem. My chest starts to hurt."

Apparently, it's a recurring issue.

"Some days, just randomly, I've had real bad chest pain," he said. "I can't, like, breathe and my heart rate won't come down. I have to stop and wait for it to come down."

Cauley-Stein said he does not take medication to treat the sickle cell trait.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/11/2983379_kentuckys-cauley-stein-adding.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

This is a serious deal breaker. Get a 2nd round pick and go for him. Chest pains??? Sickle Cell traits??? And this is the guy people want to take with our ONLY 1st round pick for 2 YEARS? HELL NO!!!. Oh wait, he also has a pin in his leg to correct a stress fracture? The operation might need to be performed again to make sure that it is done correctly??? WTF!!!. Can we PLEASE MOVE ALONG!!!

Bluebird bio has a treatment coming around for sickle cell.

That company went up nearly 800% this year.

Yeah I went on a little ride with that.

babyKnicks wrote:I'm sold
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=1314321...

Strange- when he was asked how Phil would use him he hesitated and said it was something private between them.

nixluva wrote:WCS doesn't actually have Sickle Cell. He has Sickle Cell trait which is a far less serious condition. I can understand the concerns over his health but I think it's being overblown. These health issues have been known for a while and he still performed at a high level. Tho I can understand Phil passing on him because of these things.

Was watching draft show on cbssports. Wally took him to the woodshed gave him bust. Said how is he going to improve on offense in the NBA when he wasn't able to do so vs inferior competition. Looks like a football player trying to play basketball.

Vmart wrote:

nixluva wrote:WCS doesn't actually have Sickle Cell. He has Sickle Cell trait which is a far less serious condition. I can understand the concerns over his health but I think it's being overblown. These health issues have been known for a while and he still performed at a high level. Tho I can understand Phil passing on him because of these things.

Was watching draft show on cbssports. Wally took him to the woodshed gave him bust. Said how is he going to improve on offense in the NBA when he wasn't able to do so vs inferior competition. Looks like a football player trying to play basketball.

I don't think Stein will be a bust, but he might want to eat some humble pie and talk to KAT about the best way to handle interviews.

They already got Felton for an additional 1st rounder
MosGoV for 2 1st rounders
In addition to 2 of GS 2nd rounders
One of our 1st rounders
Koufous which was also part of the deal who they traded but didn't get much
OVER 50m in salary and tax combined
While NOT TAKING EDDY CURRY's expiring

and the swap pick I want back

Not including the value of Wilson Chandler and Gallo *though he got injured much after, he had high value at the time and is still a good player if he can stay on the court*

nychamp wrote:My preference if straight picking at #4, no trade down:

1) Russell/Okafor, in that order, if he drops (not likely)
2) Porzingis
3) Mudiay
4) Hezonja/Winslow

Voted Porzingis.

Can't pick Kaminsky or Stein at #4, only swing for fences. If targeting Stein, Lyles, Kaminsky or other solid role player, trade down and get NBA player in return with pick 6-16.

Even though I want Hezonja, I don't think we pick Hezonja. Phil will be my hero if he picks him though. HERO.

EwingsGlass wrote:

nychamp wrote:My preference if straight picking at #4, no trade down:

1) Russell/Okafor, in that order, if he drops (not likely)
2) Porzingis
3) Mudiay
4) Hezonja/Winslow

Voted Porzingis.

Can't pick Kaminsky or Stein at #4, only swing for fences. If targeting Stein, Lyles, Kaminsky or other solid role player, trade down and get NBA player in return with pick 6-16.

Even though I want Hezonja, I don't think we pick Hezonja. Phil will be my hero if he picks him though. HERO.

We should pick Mudiay. My hunch is we'll pick Winslow.

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Towns
Russell
Okafor
Mudiay
Hezonja
Porzingis
Winslow
Kaminsky