I still think we end up with WCS. I could be wrong but I just get the feeling that he brings that much needed defensive presence this team needs more than anything. I think in the end Phil will keep coming back to that. Having a great help defender who you don't have to beg to give 110% on the defensive end is a major plus for any team. He's got the size and raw offensive ability that says he still has upside but his bust potential is super low. You know you're getting an elite defensive big. IMO that's half the battle in the NBA.
With #4 Mudiay, happy if we trade down to grab WCS,Pyane,kamin, winslow...but only for 2 of them
I voted Porkins. He had a private workout with the Knicks where they put him through some athletic drills so they know exactly what kind of motor he has. His English is better than mine (ok not saying much). He's a gym rat. I dont think he's nearly the development project some think. This is not a kid who's played in the Euro youth leagues. He played 20mpg with men last year. At 7 feet with that ridiculous wingspan and that range on his jumper Im pretty sure he will have a role prety quickly. Everything about this kid screams hard worker as well. The more Ive read about him and his family and his career the more comfortable I am with him at #4 over everyone else.
fishmike wrote:I voted Porkins. He had a private workout with the Knicks where they put him through some athletic drills so they know exactly what kind of motor he has. His English is better than mine (ok not saying much). He's a gym rat. I dont think he's nearly the development project some think. This is not a kid who's played in the Euro youth leagues. He played 20mpg with men last year. At 7 feet with that ridiculous wingspan and that range on his jumper Im pretty sure he will have a role prety quickly. Everything about this kid screams hard worker as well. The more Ive read about him and his family and his career the more comfortable I am with him at #4 over everyone else.
+1. Phil loved Kukoc.
Still have a gut feeling that Russell will be there at 4, but who knows.
nixluva wrote:I still think we end up with WCS. I could be wrong but I just get the feeling that he brings that much needed defensive presence this team needs more than anything. I think in the end Phil will keep coming back to that. Having a great help defender who you don't have to beg to give 110% on the defensive end is a major plus for any team. He's got the size and raw offensive ability that says he still has upside but his bust potential is super low. You know you're getting an elite defensive big. IMO that's half the battle in the NBA.
I want Stein
I think we are taking Porzingis. There seems to be a lot of smoke in this area.
probably winslow, wcs has a bad foot and has endurance issues , seems like knicks may be cool with galloway running point guard
The more and more I think about Mudiay the more and more I get amped. Having a guard that can penetrate off the dribble and pass like he can, is such a valuable asset that the Knicks have desperately been missing. As of right now, there isn't one player on the Knicks with the speed and driving ability that he has. Get a couple decent shooters in free agency, and we'll have a solid squad.
I believe 90-95% that we are drafting Stein with either pick #4 or down to 7.
That would be a disaster.
If phil picks stein at 4 he might as well resign. Nothing against stein but he is compared to tyson chandler which is fine for a playoff team who is a contender but we need a impact player. Also his injuries concern me
BRIGGS wrote:I believe 90-95% that we are drafting Stein with either pick #4 or down to 7.
I believe your about 25% accurate with this, so that brings our actual WCS draft likelyhood to 17% with a +/- of 3% for error adjustments
willey stein
Said one scout to DraftExpress: “There is some maintenance that needs to be done there, as it’s not completely clear whether the injury healed in a proper way. The pin that was inserted is supposed to be sitting at a 90 degree angle, but instead it’s at 45 degrees. That, plus some question marks about his background that came up could cause him to drop a few slots.”
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/06/22/3913058/report-nba-teams-worried-about.html#storylink=cpy
stein has this problem as well
When asked about how he might have posted a triple-double if he played more minutes, Cauley-Stein said, "I was having a sickle cell problem. My chest starts to hurt."
Apparently, it's a recurring issue.
"Some days, just randomly, I've had real bad chest pain," he said. "I can't, like, breathe and my heart rate won't come down. I have to stop and wait for it to come down."
Cauley-Stein said he does not take medication to treat the sickle cell trait.
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/11/2983379_kentuckys-cauley-stein-adding.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
Does the Knicks pick...
Justice Winslow a leader, a true competitor and hard worker who has elite defensive skills, good passer, high IQ player, good 3 point shooter but however would have to make the change to a SG and work hard to learn how to create his own shot or....
Do we pick Porzingis...
The super athletic 4/5 with a really nice touch, post skills, and a great passion for bball, but however still needs to develop and get strong and would have to deal with the likelyhood of getting teared to shreds by the media if he dosen't deliver quickly not to mention he does not show any evidence that he is a good enough passer for the triangle or..
Do we draft Willie Stein
An elite defender who can defend pick and roles, has potential to be a shooter but has to deal with his "sickle cell injury" and conditioning issues OR
Do we draft Mudiay
the athletic guard with great passing and drving skills but can't shoot and plays in a league that has a bunch of tall chinese dudes that don't play a lick of defense
My preference if straight picking at #4, no trade down:
1) Russell/Okafor, in that order, if he drops (not likely)
2) Porzingis
3) Mudiay
4) Hezonja/Winslow
Voted Porzingis.
Can't pick Kaminsky or Stein at #4, only swing for fences. If targeting Stein, Lyles, Kaminsky or other solid role player, trade down and get NBA player in return with pick 6-16.
Porgy and he is traded. Highest chance of happening.
