They can't pay him more than other teams aka no five year contracts and no 7.5% raises.
crzymdups wrote:They can't pay him more than other teams aka no five year contracts and no 7.5% raises.
That's not correct. Atlanta doesn't have full Bird right but Carroll signed a 2-year deal so Atlanta has Early Bird rights. I don't know what their cap situation is but if they're over the cap they can offer him a contract starting at 175% of his previous contract. They can offer 7.5% yearly raises but they can't offer 5 years.
VCoug wrote:crzymdups wrote:They can't pay him more than other teams aka no five year contracts and no 7.5% raises.
That's not correct. Atlanta doesn't have full Bird right but Carroll signed a 2-year deal so Atlanta has Early Bird rights. I don't know what their cap situation is but if they're over the cap they can offer him a contract starting at 175% of his previous contract. They can offer 7.5% yearly raises but they can't offer 5 years.
Yeah, but as a UFA, he's going to get far more than a 175% raise. He's getting like a 300% raise from $4M per year to at least $12M per.
I really don't think Atl was planning on him coming back anyway.
this is great... he could def be the glue guy. I think he + Monroe is a solid and reasonable offseason FA wise.
crzymdups wrote:VCoug wrote:crzymdups wrote:They can't pay him more than other teams aka no five year contracts and no 7.5% raises.
That's not correct. Atlanta doesn't have full Bird right but Carroll signed a 2-year deal so Atlanta has Early Bird rights. I don't know what their cap situation is but if they're over the cap they can offer him a contract starting at 175% of his previous contract. They can offer 7.5% yearly raises but they can't offer 5 years.
Yeah, but as a UFA, he's going to get far more than a 175% raise. He's getting like a 300% raise from $4M per year to at least $12M per.
Just looked up Atlanta's cap number. Atlanta has less than $40M in salary for next season. They have more than enough space to offer Carroll a max contract if they feel like.
VCoug wrote:
Just looked up Atlanta's cap number. Atlanta has less than $40M in salary for next season. They have more than enough space to offer Carroll a max contract if they feel like.
They do, but there's a rumor they're losing Millsap, too. Will they be able to max Carroll and find a starting PF? Seems like they may need to retool a little.
lol, love the thread title crzy.
crzymdups wrote:VCoug wrote:
Just looked up Atlanta's cap number. Atlanta has less than $40M in salary for next season. They have more than enough space to offer Carroll a max contract if they feel like.
They do, but there's a rumor they're losing Millsap, too. Will they be able to max Carroll and find a starting PF? Seems like they may need to retool a little.
The important factor here - and the point of the thread - is basically that if New York offers Carroll say 4yrs $50M, Atlanta can offer the same starting salary, but cannot offer larger raises. They'd have to offer a higher starting salary to better the offer. And they can't go 5 years, which I assumed they could. They can only go 4 years like everyone else.
nyk4ever wrote:lol, love the thread title crzy.
I'm predicting armageddon on the board tonight, no matter what happens. This thread will probably be on page five by tomorrow morning. 
crzymdups wrote:nyk4ever wrote:lol, love the thread title crzy.
I'm predicting armageddon on the board tonight, no matter what happens. This thread will probably be on page five by tomorrow morning.
hahaha, so true. traffic tonight is going to be through the roof. i hope bip has everything under control so the server doesn't crash.
fishmike wrote:this is great... he could def be the glue guy. I think he + Monroe is a solid and reasonable offseason FA wise.
I can live with that. Say we run out:
Mudiay / Calderon
Galloway
Carroll
Melo
Monroe
That's a good perimeter D squad. Not good on the interior. We'd probably want to add some better centers, maybe Ajinca or something with the midlevel? To give the option of playing a little bigger.
At this point, I'm just leaning towards drafting Mudiay or Winslow. I really hope they don't trade down unless they get bowled over.
crzymdups wrote:fishmike wrote:this is great... he could def be the glue guy. I think he + Monroe is a solid and reasonable offseason FA wise.
I can live with that. Say we run out:
Mudiay / Calderon
Galloway
Carroll
Melo
Monroe
That's a good perimeter D squad. Not good on the interior. We'd probably want to add some better centers, maybe Ajinca or something with the midlevel? To give the option of playing a little bigger.
At this point, I'm just leaning towards drafting Mudiay or Winslow. I really hope they don't trade down unless they get bowled over.
I would be thrilled if they just took Mudiay and called it a day... and while the above squad lacks interior D its not a disaster. Melo keeps guys in front of him and Monroe is an excellent rebounder and doesnt miss games. I have no doubt Monroe would give us 15ppg 12rebs playing full time center.
regardless its a huge upgrade from anything we saw last year and I like Mudiay/Galloway/Carroll on the perimeter
