Knicks · D.Carroll to the Raptors (page 1)

newyorker4ever @ 7/1/2015 12:07 PM
Broussard just said it on espn. This is not looking good at all. The Knicks better make a move real dang soon.
smackeddog @ 7/1/2015 12:11 PM
4 years $60mil.

Looking like we're down to: Monroe, Afflololololo and other mediocrities

MS @ 7/1/2015 12:11 PM
4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

crzymdups @ 7/1/2015 12:12 PM
Remember the Lakers free agency crash and burn last summer? I have a feeling that's what ours is gonna look like. Apparently giving away all our best players for nothing and then drafting a project wasn't the best strategy to attract free agents.
crzymdups @ 7/1/2015 12:12 PM
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

The cap is doubling in two years. $15M is a bargain

newyorker4ever @ 7/1/2015 12:15 PM
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

The cap is doubling in two years. $15M is a bargain


So you would of signed Carroll to that contract if you were the Knicks?? That's ridiculous.
BRIGGS @ 7/1/2015 12:15 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:Broussard just said it on espn. This is not looking good at all. The Knicks better make a move real dang soon.

New york--what do w do if we strike out--trade melo? Its almost unfair at this point to both Melo and the Knicks if we get stuck taking secondary crp in.

crzymdups @ 7/1/2015 12:16 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

The cap is doubling in two years. $15M is a bargain


So you would of signed Carroll to that contract if you were the Knicks?? That's ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is thinking Carroll would take that contract from us. That contract is basically the new MLE.

crzymdups @ 7/1/2015 12:17 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Broussard just said it on espn. This is not looking good at all. The Knicks better make a move real dang soon.

New york--what do w do if we strike out--trade melo? Its almost unfair at this point to both Melo and the Knicks if we get stuck taking secondary crp in.

I would trade Melo. Will be hard to find a market for him before the trade deadline though.

martin @ 7/1/2015 12:17 PM
$15M per, holy crap
newyorker4ever @ 7/1/2015 12:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Broussard just said it on espn. This is not looking good at all. The Knicks better make a move real dang soon.

New york--what do w do if we strike out--trade melo? Its almost unfair at this point to both Melo and the Knicks if we get stuck taking secondary crp in.


Yeah i think if we strike out and Melo would agree to it then we might as well trade him if we get the right offer. The contracts that are being given out right now are too much for us to even match if we wanna build this team the right way. Milsap 4 years 80 million and Carroll 4 years 60 miilion. We can't give out contracts like that with the position we're in right now. This is getting me very nervous right now.
newyorker4ever @ 7/1/2015 12:21 PM
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

The cap is doubling in two years. $15M is a bargain


So you would of signed Carroll to that contract if you were the Knicks?? That's ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is thinking Carroll would take that contract from us. That contract is basically the new MLE.

What are you talking about?? If we offered him that same contract he would of chosen us.

y2zipper @ 7/1/2015 12:21 PM
The upside to striking out is that you end up being the only team with space when the salary scale doubles to match the cap. Plan A should be get Monroe, then 1-year deals to hang onto the space.
nixluva @ 7/1/2015 12:22 PM
That's way more than I would've paid for Carroll and I liked him. The Knicks still have options even if they aren't sexy options. No need to panic. You just make smart moves and hold on to some cap space if you strike out. There are some good low end players like Ajinca and R Lopez and some Euro players they could also go after. You still have a shot at Tobias Harris as well.
knicks1248 @ 7/1/2015 12:22 PM
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

I mean dude, the contracts were going to be ridiculous, thats why i'm confused with all this bargin talk, and not over paying..we won't sign anyone with the pay cut talk. Either put up or kick rocks

crzymdups @ 7/1/2015 12:23 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

The cap is doubling in two years. $15M is a bargain


So you would of signed Carroll to that contract if you were the Knicks?? That's ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is thinking Carroll would take that contract from us. That contract is basically the new MLE.

What are you talking about?? If we offered him that same contract he would of chosen us.

The Raptors won the division last year. We won 17 games. Why would he choose NY again?

smackeddog @ 7/1/2015 12:27 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:Broussard just said it on espn. This is not looking good at all. The Knicks better make a move real dang soon.

New york--what do w do if we strike out--trade melo? Its almost unfair at this point to both Melo and the Knicks if we get stuck taking secondary crp in.

Use the cap space to take on salary for picks- it's not the end of the world. Thats where we went wrong in 2010, by panicking and signing Amar'e

MS @ 7/1/2015 12:27 PM
These contracts are fucking insane. TV money, cap doubling? guys are getting 1MM per point!

Carrol is a very solid role player that's it. To put in perspective, Russell Westbrook made 16.7MM last season, Curry, 12MM, Horford 12MM

Lock out will be happening soon.

callmened @ 7/1/2015 12:27 PM
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:4years - 60MM

The NBA has gone crazy.

The cap is doubling in two years. $15M is a bargain


So you would of signed Carroll to that contract if you were the Knicks?? That's ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is thinking Carroll would take that contract from us. That contract is basically the new MLE.

What are you talking about?? If we offered him that same contract he would of chosen us.

The Raptors won the division last year. We won 17 games. Why would he choose NY again?

lol...because he LIKED working out with d.fisher

newyorker4ever @ 7/1/2015 12:30 PM
nixluva wrote:That's way more than I would've paid for Carroll and I liked him. The Knicks still have options even if they aren't sexy options. No need to panic. You just make smart moves and hold on to some cap space if you strike out. There are some good low end players like Ajinca and R Lopez and some Euro players they could also go after. You still have a shot at Tobias Harris as well.

Rolo and T.Harris wouldn't be a bad free agency and we might still be able to add a P.Beverley to that.

Moonangie @ 7/1/2015 12:30 PM
crzymdups wrote:Remember the Lakers free agency crash and burn last summer? I have a feeling that's what ours is gonna look like. Apparently giving away all our best players for nothing and then drafting a project wasn't the best strategy to attract free agents.

Maybe not, but it WAS the best strategy for rebuilding the Knicks. Starting to look like that was the plan all along. Next step: Melo will request a trade. We will get at least one 2016 first rounder, additional picks, some vet players. Hopefully, this is already in the works.

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