Knicks · Monroe to the Bucks as per Woj (page 8)

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:His agent also said it was about who was on the roster.

That would be Melo

Or maybe the fact that they have MCW Middleton Freak Parker while we have Melo. Unless you think that if we had a better team then the Bucks that Monroe would still choose the Bucks strictly to avoid playing with Melo even though Melo was on the roster this whole time while we were one of his top interest.

Logic vs Agenda

This. Also said he really likes Kidd.

I don't disagree. But it sounds like the Knicks tried to get cute in their presentation and it backfired.

I don't love Monroe one bit, so this doesn't bother me. But let's be real - if this many people are saying "that's weird, I heard the Knicks did not offer the max"... I feel like there is something to it. We have five different reporters saying Knicks didn't offer max. We have the agent and Berman saying he did.

dacash wrote:what I don't understand is there wee ppl , some here and mostly in the media who were killing the knicks for even saying we wanted to sign munroe, all he could is score, defensively challenged not a good fit next to melo etc and so on. Then we don't get him were ripped for not getting this offensive forward/center that could play so great in the triangle. His own agent says all four teams offered the max he choose a different team, a play off team a little bit more ready than our 17 win team. Why are we getting ripped for a player nobody wanted us to sign???

Welcome to Knick World.

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:His agent also said it was about who was on the roster.

That would be Melo

Or maybe the fact that they have MCW Middleton Freak Parker while we have Melo. Unless you think that if we had a better team then the Bucks that Monroe would still choose the Bucks strictly to avoid playing with Melo even though Melo was on the roster this whole time while we were one of his top interest.

Logic vs Agenda

This. Also said he really likes Kidd.

I don't disagree. But it sounds like the Knicks tried to get cute in their presentation and it backfired.

I don't love Monroe one bit, so this doesn't bother me. But let's be real - if this many people are saying "that's weird, I heard the Knicks did not offer the max"... I feel like there is something to it. We have five different reporters saying Knicks didn't offer max. We have the agent and Berman saying he did.

Right. And this is already on top of knowing the few 'they asked him to take less' rumors which were circulating beforehand. All available info tells me the Knicks did not offer Greg Monroe the max. Mistake of the highest order if you ask me but time to move on now.

Finestrg wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:His agent also said it was about who was on the roster.

That would be Melo

Or maybe the fact that they have MCW Middleton Freak Parker while we have Melo. Unless you think that if we had a better team then the Bucks that Monroe would still choose the Bucks strictly to avoid playing with Melo even though Melo was on the roster this whole time while we were one of his top interest.

Logic vs Agenda

This. Also said he really likes Kidd.

I don't disagree. But it sounds like the Knicks tried to get cute in their presentation and it backfired.

I don't love Monroe one bit, so this doesn't bother me. But let's be real - if this many people are saying "that's weird, I heard the Knicks did not offer the max"... I feel like there is something to it. We have five different reporters saying Knicks didn't offer max. We have the agent and Berman saying he did.

Right. And this is already on top of knowing the few 'they asked him to take less' rumors which were circulating beforehand. All available info tells me the Knicks did not offer Greg Monroe the max. Mistake of the highest order if you ask me but time to move on now.

Honestly, I don't think Monroe was a difference maker here. He was never able to carry Detroit or anything. I'm not shedding too many tears over this one.

Frankly, I agree with Phil that he may not be a max player.

Milwaukee will be good next year, but I bet they have some troubles defending in the paint.

All I know if Phil came in here and traded big for small, thought he did a great job shedding salary, came away with no assets and didn't get an impact player in the draft. Players and agents right or wrong perceived the Knicks as a joke of an organization a constant rebuilding team.

This owner is shit, treats the fans terrible and makes mind numbing moves year after year.

Somehow Pat Riley was able to get Dragic, Deng, Whiteside, Winslow in a years time. Somehow Jason Kidd convinced a young big he was better off with the Bucks than he was with the knicks? Explain that. I understand they have 3 nice young pieces and went to the playoffs, but you should be able to say that Melo has missed the playoffs once in his entire career, you PG had an off year, you have two rookies that will make an impact and you will be adding two veterans to the team and making a run and adding cap room and players

CrushAlot wrote:Both Hahn and Begley are saying that they heard Monroe was not offered the max from the Knicks.

Of course Monroe's agent would say the Knicks offered him the max.

And it's all about fit. Detroit is irelevant

Jmpasq wrote:
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Agent David Falk says all four teams Greg Monroe met with offered the max. Chose Bucks due to better chance to "make playoffs immediately."[/img]

Of course his agent is going to say that

gunsnewing wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:
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Agent David Falk says all four teams Greg Monroe met with offered the max. Chose Bucks due to better chance to "make playoffs immediately."[/img]

Of course his agent is going to say that

Other sites reporting it also. He actually took less with the Bucks. Get off the sheet on Phil bandwagon.

"Greg Monroe was reportedly offered max-money from each team that he met with, but took a smaller deal with the Bucks as they presented him the best opportunity to make the playoffs immediately."

You can't make chicken salad from chicken sheet

MS wrote:Listen I know MJ, Isiah, Phil all are accomplished folks with long resumes, but sometimes people are too smart for their own good, think they know better than everyone else and think they see something you don't.

All I know if Phil came in here and traded big for small, thought he did a great job shedding salary, came away with no assets and didn't get an impact player in the draft. Players and agents right or wrong perceived the Knicks as a joke of an organization a constant rebuilding team.

This owner is shit, treats the fans terrible and makes mind numbing moves year after year.

Somehow Pat Riley was able to get Dragic, Deng, Whiteside, Winslow in a years time. Somehow Jason Kidd convinced a young big he was better off with the Bucks than he was with the knicks? Explain that. I understand they have 3 nice young pieces and went to the playoffs, but you should be able to say that Melo has missed the playoffs once in his entire career, you PG had an off year, you have two rookies that will make an impact and you will be adding two veterans to the team and making a run and adding cap room and players

Besides isn't this all a bit premature still? We don't know what the end result is yet. There's still a lot of options out there undecided. The Knicks haven't been shut out yet. Also it really isn't our concern what these other team's are doing. We can't control what other teams do. We can only control our own situation.

StarksEwing1 wrote:The bucks simply are in a better position than we are with the good young talent they have

Yep, it's not rocket science. He wanted to go to the most playoff ready team and he did. I don't know why people are making conspiracy theories about this.

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:The bucks simply are in a better position than we are with the good young talent they have

Yep, it's not rocket science. He wanted to go to the most playoff ready team and he did. I don't know why people are making conspiracy theories about this.

It's not a conspiracy - the Knicks clearly had the pole position as of 12:01am July 1, 2015 and blew it. Don't know why it's so hard to acknowledge this.

crzymdups wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:The bucks simply are in a better position than we are with the good young talent they have

Yep, it's not rocket science. He wanted to go to the most playoff ready team and he did. I don't know why people are making conspiracy theories about this.

It's not a conspiracy - the Knicks clearly had the pole position as of 12:01am July 1, 2015 and blew it. Don't know why it's so hard to acknowledge this.

crzymdups wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:The bucks simply are in a better position than we are with the good young talent they have

Yep, it's not rocket science. He wanted to go to the most playoff ready team and he did. I don't know why people are making conspiracy theories about this.

It's not a conspiracy - the Knicks clearly had the pole position as of 12:01am July 1, 2015 and blew it. Don't know why it's so hard to acknowledge this.

There is still Tobias Harris. Though I would prefer the David Lee trade for an asset or 2

newyorknewyork wrote:Lol where was all this love for Monroe being a max player a few weeks ago. Monroe all of a sudden turned into a rock star on this board simply by passing on us.

There is still Tobias Harris. Though I would prefer the David Lee trade for an asset or 2

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Lol where was all this love for Monroe being a max player a few weeks ago. Monroe all of a sudden turned into a rock star on this board simply by passing on us.

There is still Tobias Harris. Though I would prefer the David Lee trade for an asset or 2

harris is a RFA

Does Orlando want to keep him?

crzymdups wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:The bucks simply are in a better position than we are with the good young talent they have

Yep, it's not rocket science. He wanted to go to the most playoff ready team and he did. I don't know why people are making conspiracy theories about this.

It's not a conspiracy - the Knicks clearly had the pole position as of 12:01am July 1, 2015 and blew it. Don't know why it's so hard to acknowledge this.

And you know this how?

newyorknewyork wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Lol where was all this love for Monroe being a max player a few weeks ago. Monroe all of a sudden turned into a rock star on this board simply by passing on us.

There is still Tobias Harris. Though I would prefer the David Lee trade for an asset or 2

harris is a RFA

Does Orlando want to keep him?