Knicks · Lopez deal is official/Wojo (page 1)

CrushAlot @ 7/3/2015 2:20 PM
crzymdups @ 7/3/2015 2:23 PM
Can't believe it's still contingent on Jordan.

Also he got a million more than Tyson, though he's four years younger and hopefully wants to be here more.

gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:24 PM
Ok now let's ink Derrick Williams & Brewer/Bass
gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:26 PM
13.5M per for Lopez. They better had offered Monroe the max at $16mil
crzymdups @ 7/3/2015 2:27 PM
I think I prefer Lopez over Monroe at this point. Who were they gonna have play defense if they had Monroe and Melo and Kristaps? Lopez allows for a more balanced front court.
gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:29 PM
Monroe is a do better defender at C than he was at PF
CrushAlot @ 7/3/2015 2:29 PM
crzymdups wrote:I think I prefer Lopez over Monroe at this point. Who were they gonna have play defense if they had Monroe and Melo and Kristaps? Lopez allows for a more balanced front court.

I think I feel the same way. If they sign Brewer the Knicks will have a nice defensive line up.

crzymdups @ 7/3/2015 2:30 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Monroe is a do better defender at C than he was at PF

He's nowhere near as good as Lopez. Lopez will do the dirty work that Melo and Monroe won't

StarksEwing1 @ 7/3/2015 2:31 PM
Im sórry but the cap hit for lopez is insane and im a fan of him
crzymdups @ 7/3/2015 2:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I think I prefer Lopez over Monroe at this point. Who were they gonna have play defense if they had Monroe and Melo and Kristaps? Lopez allows for a more balanced front court.

I think I feel the same way. If they sign Brewer the Knicks will have a nice defensive line up.

Yeah, I was disappointed yesterday, but I like bringing in Brewer over Williams. They're adding high character guys who play all aspects of the game.

gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:31 PM
crzymdups wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Monroe is a do better defender at C than he was at PF

He's nowhere near as good as Lopez. Lopez will do the dirty work that Melo and Monroe won't

What are lopez's defensive efficiency stats? Anyone? Bonn? Yellow?

gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I think I prefer Lopez over Monroe at this point. Who were they gonna have play defense if they had Monroe and Melo and Kristaps? Lopez allows for a more balanced front court.

I think I feel the same way. If they sign Brewer the Knicks will have a nice defensive line up.

Yeah, I was disappointed yesterday, but I like bringing in Brewer over Williams. They're adding high character guys who play all aspects of the game.

Who other than Melo is going to score easy shots inside on this team? This is like the Woodson Knicks all over again except we won't win 54 games because that team was better. We need Williams interior scoring. We need any interior scoring. We have zero

CrushAlot @ 7/3/2015 2:34 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Im sórry but the cap hit for lopez is insane and im a fan of him
they may have paid a little more but he was flexible with the DJ situation. I also think that they needed to get a name guy that other teams were trying for.
y2zipper @ 7/3/2015 2:34 PM
gunsnewing wrote:13.5M per for Lopez. They better had offered Monroe the max at $16mil

The difference isn't the money, it's the opt-out. If you give Monroe the third year player option and he's productive, you end up paying twice as much when he's 26. With Lopez, you get a flat rate that's the going rate for what he does and he's in his physical peak.

nixluva @ 7/3/2015 2:34 PM
gunsnewing wrote:13.5M per for Lopez. They better had offered Monroe the max at $16mil

Hahn was saying that the Knicks really wanted defense. He doesn't believe that offered the max to him. From i'm guessing they were probably fine with Monroe as an offensive big but were always going to be looking for a defensive C. If Monroe had been signed my guess is they still would've gone after RoLo but maybe offered a little less or moved on to a guy like Kosta Koufos. Seems like RoLo was always going to be a target tho.

gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:35 PM
If I remember correctly Lopez's defensive numbers are very pedestrian. Much like his brother except he is not the same offensive player
Dagger @ 7/3/2015 2:36 PM
13.5 million is WAY WAY too much for Robin Lopez. This signing is definitely a big NO for me. I was hoping for something in the 8-10 million ballpark.
StarksEwing1 @ 7/3/2015 2:37 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Im sórry but the cap hit for lopez is insane and im a fan of him
they may have paid a little more but he was flexible with the DJ situation. I also think that they needed to get a name guy that other teams were trying for.
i wanted lopez BUT i dont think he has done enough to earn almost 14 per year. 10 would have been fair
crzymdups @ 7/3/2015 2:37 PM
gunsnewing wrote:If I remember correctly Lopez's defensive numbers are very pedestrian. Much like his brother except he is not the same offensive player

Just from watching them both there is absolutely no way this is true.

gunsnewing @ 7/3/2015 2:38 PM
I'm glad the Lopez's are happy
nixluva @ 7/3/2015 2:40 PM
gunsnewing wrote:If I remember correctly Lopez's defensive numbers are very pedestrian. Much like his brother except he is not the same offensive player

Lopez is a quality rim protector.

During the 2013-14 season, Lopez faced an unbelievably high 10.3 field goal attempts at the rim per game. That’s behind Spencer Hawes, 10.4, and tied with DeAndre Jordan for the second-most in the entire league.

Hawes allowed opponents to shoot 52.3 percent in those situations. Jordan checked in at a solid 49.4 percent.

Lopez can be found all the way down at 42.5 percent. The first sign of an elite rim protector.

Not only is that a stunning percentage—and that adjective doesn’t do it justice—but that’s the second-best mark of any player in the entire league. The only one who has a better mark is Hibbert, who limits opponents to 41.4 percent shooting when he meets them at the rim.

When a player’s only competition is a front-runner for Defensive Player of the Year, they’re nothing if not in position to make one of the All-Defense Teams. Or at least they should be.

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