Knicks · Lin Headed to Charlotte (page 1)

dwiley20 @ 7/8/2015 9:51 PM
shrugs
knicks1248 @ 7/8/2015 9:56 PM
I feel a little sorry for lin, that guy really needs a home and a system to fit his skills. MDA made him, and now his gone, and this guy will probably break a record for the amount of teams he'll play on before he just calls it a career.

Charlotte doesn't seem like a good fit, and i just hope it's not a 1 yr deal

dwiley20 @ 7/8/2015 10:20 PM
2 yr 4 milion deal..pretty solid
blkexec @ 7/8/2015 10:59 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I feel a little sorry for lin, that guy really needs a home and a system to fit his skills. MDA made him, and now his gone, and this guy will probably break a record for the amount of teams he'll play on before he just calls it a career.

Charlotte doesn't seem like a good fit, and i just hope it's not a 1 yr deal

He did it to himself

TPercy @ 7/8/2015 11:07 PM
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I feel a little sorry for lin, that guy really needs a home and a system to fit his skills. MDA made him, and now his gone, and this guy will probably break a record for the amount of teams he'll play on before he just calls it a career.

Charlotte doesn't seem like a good fit, and i just hope it's not a 1 yr deal

He did it to himself

How?

CrushAlot @ 7/8/2015 11:12 PM
TPercy wrote:
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:I feel a little sorry for lin, that guy really needs a home and a system to fit his skills. MDA made him, and now his gone, and this guy will probably break a record for the amount of teams he'll play on before he just calls it a career.

Charlotte doesn't seem like a good fit, and i just hope it's not a 1 yr deal

He did it to himself

How?

Well he chose to sign there. He goes in as a back up. If he signs in Dallas he has a good chance of starting and he has his Texas fans from his Rockets days.
technomaster @ 7/8/2015 11:19 PM
Not an ideal fit. What's his agent thinking? That he'll be on the floor 30mpg, with stretches alongside Kemba?

Mavs would still be awesome - a chance for him to play like a young Nash. And there's plenty of cap room with Jordan not signing there...

CrushAlot @ 7/8/2015 11:23 PM
technomaster wrote:Not an ideal fit. What's his agent thinking? That he'll be on the floor 30mpg, with stretches alongside Kemba?

Mavs would still be awesome - a chance for him to play like a young Nash. And there's plenty of cap room with Jordan not signing there...

I don't know how much he gets paid on his next contract. I do think fit is important and I don't think this was a good choice.
yellowboy90 @ 7/8/2015 11:31 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
technomaster wrote:Not an ideal fit. What's his agent thinking? That he'll be on the floor 30mpg, with stretches alongside Kemba?

Mavs would still be awesome - a chance for him to play like a young Nash. And there's plenty of cap room with Jordan not signing there...

I don't know how much he gets paid on his next contract. I do think fit is important and I don't think this was a good choice.

kemba sucks, Lin walks in the better player by far but Kemba's contract won't let that happen.

NumberTwoPencil @ 7/9/2015 3:10 AM
Hmmm, well, I guess Dallas wouldn't have worked out with Jordan bailing but Charlotte? I can't see Lin fitting in there. Bummer for Lin.
Syniko @ 7/9/2015 3:23 AM
Lin passed over a chance to start for a team that needed a PG and he picked Charlotte? No way will Kemba want to split his minutes with Lin and if Lin, somehow reactivate his Linsanity mode, Kemba will not be happy about the possibility of trading places. In Dallas, Lin could reactivate his Linsanity mode all he wants and he wouldn't have to fight anyone for it because the team was already his to command.

I guess the DeAndre Jordan situation changed Lin's mind because as soon as DJ announced he was re-signing with the Clippers, Lin announced his signing to Buzz City. Lin wants less spotlight on him and if he's quietly doing his thing and help his team to the playoff, that's good enough for him. Charlotte Hornets is on a quiet market unlike L.A. and Lin excels better when he's humble and not having to think too much about what is to be expectant of him.

I see great things for Charlotte next season and they now have a player that is always fun to watch. I wish Knicks would have gotten him back but oh well.

Finestrg @ 7/9/2015 4:07 AM
For that amount of money, I would've taken him back here in a heartbeat. I wonder if we ever even reached out to him. If not, I'd like to know why. The guy was HUGE here. Was it Dolan and his resentment for how things went down (if anything, be mad at Morey for the last-minute poison pill contract--WTF was Lin supposed to do, not take that money?) or Melo who allegedly didn't like Lin? If those were factors and Phil was told to pass, that's utter nonsense. Couldn't care less what those 2 jerks think of Lin. Botton line--he could've been had at a rock bottom price and he could've helped us. It would've been great to add both Lin and Shved as the final 2 pieces for next season (in addition to a SL/TC player or two who earn it). I mean Lin + Shved along with Afflalo, Galloway, whatever Calderon has left (doesn't look like much), Ledo, maybe one more versatile big guard at the minimum (Daniel Hackett?), that's not bad. Better than what the Cavs were going to war with in the Finals sans Irving...Oh well, at least bring Shved back.

I'd love to ask Phil what his plan was for the backcourt going into the off-season. The Grant trade was a very good move on draft night (suppose that move never materialized though), decent move signing Afflalo then what else?? I mean there's gotta be another move or two coming for more backcourt depth, no?

gunsnewing @ 7/9/2015 6:59 AM
Nice the Hornets are my 2nd favorite team!
Bonn1997 @ 7/9/2015 8:20 AM
That's a good bargain for Charlotte
RonRon @ 7/9/2015 12:04 PM
Lin probably would have signed with Dallas had they signed DeAndre Jordan
His style of play/strengths FITS IN WITH DALLAS in how Rick Carlise wants to play with penetration, PnR's, and 4 shooting threats, to possibly 5 at time, with an aging Dirk

Chandler Parsons is a good friend of Lin's but Lin chose a team that pays him a bit more while he can still get more than the vet min
IMO, he should have signed with Dallas regardless, even for less money with a player option for 2nd year, to try to revive his career
Especially if Mavs could still trade for another Center like Hibbert, with shooters to space the floor like Wesley Matthews, Parsons, Dirk, and Charlie V, maybe even STAT resigning

Watching him in recent years, I get the sense that many players think he was over rated
Many players do not like him, feeling he wasn't worth the contract he got and didn't pay his due's for a contract of 3years, 25million deal
Not sure if any of this changes with his new contract for backup money

On the Lakers,
He appears to have loss a step last season, as teams always attacked him on DEFENSE, especially with a PnR, as he has trouble getting through and Lakers has a horrible DEFENSE with no shot blockers outside of Ed Davis

After leaving New York, in addition to losing a step after surgery, along with his role that fits in Dantoni's philosophy, it affects both his OFF and DEFENSE
Along with the lack of confidence and fan support that he got as the under dog, he is looking to play a team/backup role instead of doing what he did as a Knick

If Battum poor play last season was because of his wrist injury and he recovers back to his all round game/defense/with his length/athleticism/versatile skill set, Bobcats could improve much with MKG's (next season he will be in a RFA) defense and size with Battum, along with the addition of Frank the Tank that could play PF/C, and if Al Jefferson recovers back to a 20/10 play
Kaminski's role/versatility/HIGH IQ could help Bobcats improve just as Josh McRoberts helped the best year of Bobcats history

meloanyk @ 7/9/2015 12:16 PM
Whatever happened to the mass outcry about Knicks failing to match the Rocket poison pill deal. Lin was the second coming to most NYK fans. Hysterics at its worst but thankfully organization made a very wise decision in letting him walk. To recognize that would be to credit them and admit fan stupidity therefore the silence
Bonn1997 @ 7/9/2015 12:20 PM
meloanyk wrote:Whatever happened to the mass outcry about Knicks failing to match the Rocket poison pill deal. Lin was the second coming to most NYK fans. Hysterics at its worst but thankfully organization made a very wise decision in letting him walk. To recognize that would be to credit them and admit fan stupidity therefore the silence

eh, even a broken clock is right twice a day
CrushAlot @ 7/9/2015 12:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Whatever happened to the mass outcry about Knicks failing to match the Rocket poison pill deal. Lin was the second coming to most NYK fans. Hysterics at its worst but thankfully organization made a very wise decision in letting him walk. To recognize that would be to credit them and admit fan stupidity therefore the silence

eh, even a broken clock is right twice a day
Yeah but that was a big one. I think some may have left this forum they were so upset.
Bonn1997 @ 7/9/2015 12:40 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Whatever happened to the mass outcry about Knicks failing to match the Rocket poison pill deal. Lin was the second coming to most NYK fans. Hysterics at its worst but thankfully organization made a very wise decision in letting him walk. To recognize that would be to credit them and admit fan stupidity therefore the silence

eh, even a broken clock is right twice a day
Yeah but that was a big one. I think some may have left this forum they were so upset.

Well I also think Lin played up to his contract in 2 of the last 3 years. So I don't think Dolan really saved us from anything terrible. It's not like they used Lin's potential salary on wiser signings. If anything, they were mostly worse signings.
CrushAlot @ 7/9/2015 12:43 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Whatever happened to the mass outcry about Knicks failing to match the Rocket poison pill deal. Lin was the second coming to most NYK fans. Hysterics at its worst but thankfully organization made a very wise decision in letting him walk. To recognize that would be to credit them and admit fan stupidity therefore the silence

eh, even a broken clock is right twice a day
Yeah but that was a big one. I think some may have left this forum they were so upset.

Well I also think Lin played up to his contract in 2 of the last 3 years. So I don't think Dolan really saved us from anything terrible. It's not like they used Lin's potential salary on wiser signings. If anything, they were mostly worse signings.
Are you talking about the average salary or the 15 mil in his last year? Also, part of the reason why the deal worked for Houston and not NY was the luxury tax the Knicks would have to pay because of the contract.
Bonn1997 @ 7/9/2015 12:50 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Whatever happened to the mass outcry about Knicks failing to match the Rocket poison pill deal. Lin was the second coming to most NYK fans. Hysterics at its worst but thankfully organization made a very wise decision in letting him walk. To recognize that would be to credit them and admit fan stupidity therefore the silence

eh, even a broken clock is right twice a day
Yeah but that was a big one. I think some may have left this forum they were so upset.

Well I also think Lin played up to his contract in 2 of the last 3 years. So I don't think Dolan really saved us from anything terrible. It's not like they used Lin's potential salary on wiser signings. If anything, they were mostly worse signings.
Are you talking about the average salary or the 15 mil in his last year? Also, part of the reason why the deal worked for Houston and not NY was the luxury tax the Knicks would have to pay because of the contract.

The first question doesn't really change my evaluation. If you go by average salary (8.3 mil per), I'd still say he lived up to it or close to it his first two years. I'd at least say he played closer to his salary those years than most of our players do.
Regarding your other point, the Knicks were still in the luxury tax last year, right? They just spent the money that would have gone to Lin on other (poor) options unless I'm mistaken.
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