1 Brook Lopez--Brooklyn
2 Nerlens Noel--Philly
3 Jonas Valanciunas--Toronto
4.Tyler Zeller---Boston
5 Robin Lopez---Knicks
(note I think KP might be the best young C talent wise who is not ready however to be lumped in a ranking)
Lopez is a better center than Zeller.
1. Brook
2. Valanciunas
3. Robin
4. Noel
5. Zeller.
Honorable mention Robin Lopez
1 Hassan Whiteside
2 Andre Drummond
3 Brook Lopez
4 Nerlens Noel
5 Al Horford
Ilovestarks wrote:Honorable mention Robin Lopez
1 Hassan Whiteside
2 Andre Drummond
3 Brook Lopez
4 Nerlens Noel
5 Al Horford
sorry refer to the entire EAST
I don't think there is a big difference between any of the centers in the east. I think Robin matches up well with all of them. That's a good thing. At least we know we can compete.
EnySpree wrote:I don't think there is a big difference between any of the centers in the east. I think Robin matches up well with all of them. That's a good thing. At least we know we can compete.
I agree, we have a good piece at C
Ilovestarks wrote:EnySpree wrote:I don't think there is a big difference between any of the centers in the east. I think Robin matches up well with all of them. That's a good thing. At least we know we can compete.
I agree, we have a good piece at C
Alot of guys here wanted Robin so they believe in what he can do. I think he for overpaid by 5 mill a year but the market set that tone. I just like the fact that the dude is busy. He's annoying in that you want to play off him but if you do he makes you pay with his ability to stay busy. I would be surprised if we had an effort issue with him on the court.
Bropez
Gasol/Noah
Horford
Mozgov/varajao
Drummand
Norlens/Okafo
Valecunias
Ropez/KP
BRIGGS wrote:1 Brook Lopez--Brooklyn2 Nerlens Noel--Philly
3 Jonas Valanciunas--Toronto
4.Tyler Zeller---Boston
5 Robin Lopez---Knicks
(note I think KP might be the best young C talent wise who is not ready however to be lumped in a ranking)
Any non Philly GM would trade their center on that list, including the Knicks and Phil Jackson, for Nerlens Noel. He's on a rookie contract and can be a legit DPOY candidate, year in and year out.
I fail to see how Brook Lopez tops the list of any center group. He's injury prone, he's an injury risk to end his career, he's massively paid and chews up a ton of his team's cap, and he's a net negative defender ( offense is nice from a pivot, but if you can't defend, your team is truly horse fucked.
In terms of helping their teams win, and without just staring at a few rudimentary counting stats, the biggest impact on wins would be
Noel, Robin Lopez, Jonas V, Brook Lopez, Tyler Zeller
Zeller isn't even a lock to start for his own team.
Zinger could very well profile out long term as a Stretch 4.
Won't Noel be a PF, with OK4 at the 5?
I assume that both will be starting...can't see OK4 playing PF-too many matchup issues on the defensive end, IMO...
...but I suppose stranger things have happened.
Robin Lopez holds up well in this kind of ranking- especially as a defender. I also think that looking to compare individuals in a team game can sometimes be deceptive-ultimately you have to look at the role they play on their particular team, and that is all I'm really concerned about at this time.
Lets seem him play half a season before seeing where he stands. Maybe he does better than some think he can do...maybe he doesn't.
TripleThreat wrote:BRIGGS wrote:1 Brook Lopez--Brooklyn2 Nerlens Noel--Philly
3 Jonas Valanciunas--Toronto
4.Tyler Zeller---Boston
5 Robin Lopez---Knicks
(note I think KP might be the best young C talent wise who is not ready however to be lumped in a ranking)
Any non Philly GM would trade their center on that list, including the Knicks and Phil Jackson, for Nerlens Noel. He's on a rookie contract and can be a legit DPOY candidate, year in and year out.
I fail to see how Brook Lopez tops the list of any center group. He's injury prone, he's an injury risk to end his career, he's massively paid and chews up a ton of his team's cap, and he's a net negative defender ( offense is nice from a pivot, but if you can't defend, your team is truly horse fucked.
In terms of helping their teams win, and without just staring at a few rudimentary counting stats, the biggest impact on wins would be
Noel, Robin Lopez, Jonas V, Brook Lopez, Tyler Zeller
Zeller isn't even a lock to start for his own team.
Zinger could very well profile out long term as a Stretch 4.
any player is an injury risk. YOur talking about one issue and he just played a full season. Bropez is a top offensive center in the league. You pair him with a PF like Young and its about chemistry. There is no complete center in the league except Marc Gasol and im sure we can find fault with him. Perhaps you like your 5 to be an athletic freak of domination but who is that guy in this NBA? Dwight Howard was close but his offensive game lacks.
Bropez is a guy that can hang 20-8 on most nights and hit a foul shot. That get you a 20 mil per year pay day in this NBA. Sad as it may be.
I will stick to true centers and make this easy:
Noah
Drummond
Whiteside
Bropez
Valenciunas
OK4
Ropez