LOL... funny sht...
Interesting if she will find anybody to believe her...
Even if all this is true no way it can be proved.
arkrud wrote:LOL... funny sht...
Interesting if she will find anybody to believe her...
Even if all this is true no way it can be proved.
Tell that to Bill Cosby 
BRIGGS wrote:arkrud wrote:LOL... funny sht...
Interesting if she will find anybody to believe her...
Even if all this is true no way it can be proved.
Tell that to Bill Cosby
Yeah. Not funny even if she is lying.
Timing is interesting...
Cosby inspired?
Comes out at time when a player might settle on the side so it doesn't interfere with start of season.
Why wouldn't she have tried to do something with the police, even if it was just to find out that the statute of limitations had expired.
Usually, my first impulse is to believe the woman in this kind of story- in this case I have some doubts about her timing and her story.
arkrud wrote:LOL... funny sht...
Interesting if she will find anybody to believe her...
Even if all this is true no way it can be proved.
Court of Law is not the same as the Court of Public Opinion.
Just taking a neutral stance here in terms of whether Rose is guilty or innocent, this is just a BAD BAD TIME for any pro athlete in America to get caught up in any scandal involving the mistreatment/abuse/hurting of women. Esp after the Ray Rice thing in the NFL.
The rabid group of feminists and pro feminist agenda folks out there wanted their pound of flesh of Ray Rice. They will want their pound of flesh of Derrick Rose too.
One thing about the media in general, not just the sports media, is that the "headline" means more than the truth, whatever the truth is, because in that regard, the truth doesn't matter to the Court of Public Opinion.
Ray Rice can't even get a team to work him out. I'm not saying this will be Rose's fate, but this could end up pretty ugly for him before it's over.
I remember reading about all the teams AC Green was on, how they'd laugh at him and prod him and bust his chops about being celibate and not getting involved with women. I remember reading an article about a team mate saying how they'd joke about it all with him, but maybe AC Green was really the smart one and the rest of them were all the foolish ones.
This is what happens to celebrities when you stop paying your ex girlfriends bills. Just like police brutality, and how we should hold the police accountable. We should also hold these ex girlfriends accountable if their stories are false. If Barry Bonds goes to jail for lying, so should the police and ex girlfriends. Otherwise, you will continue to have these allegations. Same should be said for gun suppliers. If a person or company sells a gun to a mentally ill person....And that person kills or harms someone, then the seller of the gun should do time as well.
she already hurt him.
Long time relationship and they have a kid together. could be she did not want to jepordize her cash flow by coming forward.
A financial settlement could be her path to independence as she would not have to deal with him.
If true that's a pretty brutal thing to do to a women. Rape is awful, but to be engaged to a man then have him pass you around to his friends.
They did break up about two years ago. He can countersue for defamation of character if unfounded.
Nalod wrote:she already hurt him. Long time relationship and they have a kid together. could be she did not want to jepordize her cash flow by coming forward.
A financial settlement could be her path to independence as she would not have to deal with him.
If true that's a pretty brutal thing to do to a women. Rape is awful, but to be engaged to a man then have him pass you around to his friends.
They did break up about two years ago. He can countersue for defamation of character if unfounded.
Yup, and although I have brought this up in certain situations related to the Knicks, I completely forgot about it here. I know that if I was rich and had the money to get a good lawyer, and was accused of something like this, I would be aggressive in trying to clear my name.
Will be interesting to see what happens. If the child is theirs, and Rose had stopped paying support, you would think she could simply sue for support if it was only a money thing, without the rape allegations.
If he pays her off without going to court would this imply guilt, or simply the desire to get rid of a problem that could linger, even if the allegations were false or exaggerated?
I think it's insane that everyone is brushing this off as though she is definitely a gold digger. Some of the facts will come to light and there will be a verdict and I will react to the story then. I remember hearing the same BS when Darren Sharper denied what he did and then later plead guilty.
WaltLongmire wrote:Nalod wrote:she already hurt him. Long time relationship and they have a kid together. could be she did not want to jepordize her cash flow by coming forward.
A financial settlement could be her path to independence as she would not have to deal with him.
If true that's a pretty brutal thing to do to a women. Rape is awful, but to be engaged to a man then have him pass you around to his friends.
They did break up about two years ago. He can countersue for defamation of character if unfounded.
Yup, and although I have brought this up in certain situations related to the Knicks, I completely forgot about it here. I know that if I was rich and had the money to get a good lawyer, and was accused of something like this, I would be aggressive in trying to clear my name.Will be interesting to see what happens. If the child is theirs, and Rose had stopped paying support, you would think she could simply sue for support if it was only a money thing, without the rape allegations.
If he pays her off without going to court would this imply guilt, or simply the desire to get rid of a problem that could linger, even if the allegations were false or exaggerated?
This was a long term relationship and they were engaged to be married. They broke two years ago. Rape is psychological as well and its not uncommon for a victim to come forward years later. Maybe he was threating her with not paying, maybe he did stop. If true he is not the victim, she is.
None of us can really know what is happening nor what her state is if she was in fact violated.
So far she hasn't come forward as Mieka Reese, Rose's ex fiancee and mother of his son, but as "Jane Doe".
Could be another chick, not his ex-fiancee. Not passing judgement yet because it's still early, but it seems like Rose could be in deep doo doo...
Rape is rape. But there may be a thin line between a consensual gang bang and the later "interpretation" of that by this person. If she didn't come forward when it happened, seems it may be on the consensual side of that line. Only she and the men involved know the truth.
Most women don't report rape. Its complex, but not reporting it does not imply consent.
With this case, we don't know.
Just one big clusterfck...If he really did that..Wow..If she is lying, Wow..
So she escaped his beverly hills mansion only for them to be SO thirsty for her specific junk that they broke into her apartment and did the deed? Dang just ugly all around. Something aint right but that goes both ways.
This type of thing does happen when you deal with arrogant, young, rich people....
at the same time women are always crying wolf as a way to get back for some reason or another.
I got my own problems so I say fuck it
RicanHavok wrote:So she escaped his beverly hills mansion only for them to be SO thirsty for her specific junk that they broke into her apartment and did the deed? Dang just ugly all around. Something aint right but that goes both ways.
Rape is about control (domination), not sex.
Nalod wrote:RicanHavok wrote:So she escaped his beverly hills mansion only for them to be SO thirsty for her specific junk that they broke into her apartment and did the deed? Dang just ugly all around. Something aint right but that goes both ways.
Rape is about control (domination), not sex.
Yea, I guess I should've actually made a point with my post lol. I don't know Rose and I def don't know the mentality of a rapist but my line of thought was more on the idea that they lost track of her long enough for her to escape the mansion then they collectively decided to go to her home and break in to rape her. Just a crazy thing to imagine drose functioning that way.
I'm really getting tired of these stories....Whether it's true or false. First of all, this should be a lesson for all young entrepreneurs. Regardless if she's telling the truth or not, Rose should've never put himself in this vulnerable situation. But I remember being a 20 yr old, and all I have to say is thank God I wasn't a millionaire. You rarely think about consequences until after the fact.
The cost is also inflicted on the Bulls franchise in the sense that if its true, then lawyer or no lawyer it plays heavily as a distraction and an ongoing media matter lead by feminists and journalists alike. If it's not true then the Bulls and Rose need to devise a strategic exit. To fight it and cut the media cord so to speak. In this case whether true or not, avoiding the stench and distraction maybe prudent whether true or not.
