Knicks · Berman sucks..... (page 1)

The difference between making the Eastern Conference finals and posting 17 wins was reflected in the Knicks’ and Rangers’ season-ticket renewals.

According to a Madison Square Garden spokesman, the Rangers’ season-ticket renewal rate for the upcoming season is 98 percent, a whopping 11 percent higher than the Knicks’ 87 percent rate.

Last year’s season-ticket renewal rate for the Knicks was 92 percent entering Phil Jackson’s first full year as president. The deadline for renewals was Aug. 28.

The Garden still expects both the Knicks and Rangers to sell out of season tickets after which single-game tickets will go on sale.

Nevertheless, if the Knicks get off to a bad start, their 201-game sellout streak, dating to 2010, could be in danger. The streak factors in playoff and preseason games. The Knicks open their preseason schedule at the Garden Oct. 7 versus a touring Brazilian club, Paschoalotto/Bauru.

Considering the Knicks finished with the worst record in franchise history at 17-65, the Garden was pleased at the renewal number. The Knicks also didn’t land a big-name free agent despite $30 million of cap space, their biggest signings being Robin Lopez and Arron Afflalo. The Rangers are coming off a Stanley Cup final berth in 2014 and a trip to the conference final last spring

Buy low. Rangers went to finals, they should renew well!!!!! Knicks win 17 games and maybe the glass is half full as they ONLY lost 5% of renewal rate? Since Dolan owns both, it seems like the garden is doing well!

Its articles like that promote ""Didn't land a big name free agent despite 30mil in cap space" panders to insinuate failure. If we did sign a big name, the roster would be top heavy and the team's record might not be great either. Berman is not stupid, but the readers of his paper are. Knicks drafted a potentially wonderful player and rounded out its roster and gets Melo back. The front line is much improved over last season.

Don't. Have. Their. Draft. Pick.

PHUCK!!!!!

That said Year 1 of the Zinger. 35 Wins. LEGGOO!!!

Nalod wrote:

The difference between making the Eastern Conference finals and posting 17 wins was reflected in the Knicks’ and Rangers’ season-ticket renewals.

According to a Madison Square Garden spokesman, the Rangers’ season-ticket renewal rate for the upcoming season is 98 percent, a whopping 11 percent higher than the Knicks’ 87 percent rate.

Last year’s season-ticket renewal rate for the Knicks was 92 percent entering Phil Jackson’s first full year as president. The deadline for renewals was Aug. 28.

The Garden still expects both the Knicks and Rangers to sell out of season tickets after which single-game tickets will go on sale.

Nevertheless, if the Knicks get off to a bad start, their 201-game sellout streak, dating to 2010, could be in danger. The streak factors in playoff and preseason games. The Knicks open their preseason schedule at the Garden Oct. 7 versus a touring Brazilian club, Paschoalotto/Bauru.

Considering the Knicks finished with the worst record in franchise history at 17-65, the Garden was pleased at the renewal number. The Knicks also didn’t land a big-name free agent despite $30 million of cap space, their biggest signings being Robin Lopez and Arron Afflalo. The Rangers are coming off a Stanley Cup final berth in 2014 and a trip to the conference final last spring

Buy low. Rangers went to finals, they should renew well!!!!! Knicks win 17 games and maybe the glass is half full as they ONLY lost 5% of renewal rate? Since Dolan owns both, it seems like the garden is doing well!

Its articles like that promote ""Didn't land a big name free agent despite 30mil in cap space" panders to insinuate failure. If we did sign a big name, the roster would be top heavy and the team's record might not be great either. Berman is not stupid, but the readers of his paper are. Knicks drafted a potentially wonderful player and rounded out its roster and gets Melo back. The front line is much improved over last season.

berman used to be a good writer but the last 10-12 years has worn him out, destroyed his love of the team.

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:

The difference between making the Eastern Conference finals and posting 17 wins was reflected in the Knicks’ and Rangers’ season-ticket renewals.

According to a Madison Square Garden spokesman, the Rangers’ season-ticket renewal rate for the upcoming season is 98 percent, a whopping 11 percent higher than the Knicks’ 87 percent rate.

Last year’s season-ticket renewal rate for the Knicks was 92 percent entering Phil Jackson’s first full year as president. The deadline for renewals was Aug. 28.

The Garden still expects both the Knicks and Rangers to sell out of season tickets after which single-game tickets will go on sale.

Nevertheless, if the Knicks get off to a bad start, their 201-game sellout streak, dating to 2010, could be in danger. The streak factors in playoff and preseason games. The Knicks open their preseason schedule at the Garden Oct. 7 versus a touring Brazilian club, Paschoalotto/Bauru.

Considering the Knicks finished with the worst record in franchise history at 17-65, the Garden was pleased at the renewal number. The Knicks also didn’t land a big-name free agent despite $30 million of cap space, their biggest signings being Robin Lopez and Arron Afflalo. The Rangers are coming off a Stanley Cup final berth in 2014 and a trip to the conference final last spring

Buy low. Rangers went to finals, they should renew well!!!!! Knicks win 17 games and maybe the glass is half full as they ONLY lost 5% of renewal rate? Since Dolan owns both, it seems like the garden is doing well!

Its articles like that promote ""Didn't land a big name free agent despite 30mil in cap space" panders to insinuate failure. If we did sign a big name, the roster would be top heavy and the team's record might not be great either. Berman is not stupid, but the readers of his paper are. Knicks drafted a potentially wonderful player and rounded out its roster and gets Melo back. The front line is much improved over last season.

berman used to be a good writer but the last 10-12 years has worn him out, destroyed his love of the team.

Not love, but he has ratings and readership and by getting folks mad works then logical explanations. They built up the Phil hire as the second coming and some fans can't fathom what went wrong.
When Melo was bought here with great fanfair (mooby worship) it masked the truth the roster was thin. if Aldridge did come he and melo would be both 30 and KP would need to have been traded to round out the roster. Win now is ok, as long as you actually come close to "win now". If not, your screwed.

Instead, Phil is trying to build it for the long run.

I actually think there are a lot of fans who realize what is going on. The only ones not renewing are those who probably were just coming to be seen or be part of an event rather than hardcore Knicks fans. I would bet that most hardcore Knicks fans know what the real deal is.

nixluva wrote:I actually think there are a lot of fans who realize what is going on. The only ones not renewing are those who probably were just coming to be seen or be part of an event rather than hardcore Knicks fans. I would bet that most hardcore Knicks fans know what the real deal is.

There are many reasons for not renewing besides the win/loss record. My point is Berman thinking cuz knicks don't sign a "star", sales dropped.

Companies and finance can play into why some don't renew.

It's a fair article...U guys are just ultra sensitive/protective of Phil...He isn't bashing the Knicks, just stating the obvious as reason why renewals may be down...

They start winning this season, watch the band wagon fill up again.

Right, this is Berman, the elite NY media reporter who brought you Stephon Messiahbury.

dk7th wrote:

Nalod wrote:

The difference between making the Eastern Conference finals and posting 17 wins was reflected in the Knicks’ and Rangers’ season-ticket renewals.

According to a Madison Square Garden spokesman, the Rangers’ season-ticket renewal rate for the upcoming season is 98 percent, a whopping 11 percent higher than the Knicks’ 87 percent rate.

Last year’s season-ticket renewal rate for the Knicks was 92 percent entering Phil Jackson’s first full year as president. The deadline for renewals was Aug. 28.

The Garden still expects both the Knicks and Rangers to sell out of season tickets after which single-game tickets will go on sale.

Nevertheless, if the Knicks get off to a bad start, their 201-game sellout streak, dating to 2010, could be in danger. The streak factors in playoff and preseason games. The Knicks open their preseason schedule at the Garden Oct. 7 versus a touring Brazilian club, Paschoalotto/Bauru.

Considering the Knicks finished with the worst record in franchise history at 17-65, the Garden was pleased at the renewal number. The Knicks also didn’t land a big-name free agent despite $30 million of cap space, their biggest signings being Robin Lopez and Arron Afflalo. The Rangers are coming off a Stanley Cup final berth in 2014 and a trip to the conference final last spring

Buy low. Rangers went to finals, they should renew well!!!!! Knicks win 17 games and maybe the glass is half full as they ONLY lost 5% of renewal rate? Since Dolan owns both, it seems like the garden is doing well!

Its articles like that promote ""Didn't land a big name free agent despite 30mil in cap space" panders to insinuate failure. If we did sign a big name, the roster would be top heavy and the team's record might not be great either. Berman is not stupid, but the readers of his paper are. Knicks drafted a potentially wonderful player and rounded out its roster and gets Melo back. The front line is much improved over last season.

berman used to be a good writer but the last 10-12 years has worn him out, destroyed his love of the team.

berman focuses more on certain players(crawford, marbury, melo, amare) and usually will report the negative. But he exaggerate's so much it's hilarious, it's really entertainment

holfresh wrote:It's a fair article...U guys are just ultra sensitive/protective of Phil...He isn't bashing the Knicks, just stating the obvious as reason why renewals may be down...

So "oh, I stayed thru Duhan, Bargnani, Felton, but I'm atta here cuz Lamarcus not coming?"

"oh, Phuch Phil, I had my faith in Grunwald!!!"

Thats not reasonable. Berman states the starphuched.

Nalod wrote:

holfresh wrote:It's a fair article...U guys are just ultra sensitive/protective of Phil...He isn't bashing the Knicks, just stating the obvious as reason why renewals may be down...

So "oh, I stayed thru Duhan, Bargnani, Felton, but I'm atta here cuz Lamarcus not coming?"

"oh, Phuch Phil, I had my faith in Grunwald!!!"

Thats not reasonable. Berman states the starphuched.

He has nothing to write about.

The truth is I agree with you. However I also understnad Berman. There is no way to write a truly obejctive story without it being kinda dull. So what choice does he have.. either he can say how great it is that a 17 win team still renews 87% of its tickets in a city where there are literally a million other shows to see at night, or he can add to the narrative he has built about how the Knicks are laughingstocks and his piece is another punchline. Don't hate the player... yada yada.

Okay, I know I live in "flyover country" and left NYC almost 30 years ago but I gotta ask how long has Berman been writing for the Post(?).

When I think NY Post/NBA/Knicks, the name Peter Vescey (I think that was it) comes to mind. Yeah, I'm old but I still love me some Knicks--even when their suckage is of Biblical proportions.

My mind is still blown by how God awful Peter Vescey was. Him and Berman were the dynamic duo of suckness. It was bad. I simply just don't pay attention to Berman now. I have no clue what PV is doing now.

The one beat writer I consistently liked was Alan Hahn... Then Dolan bought Newsday... It was not long after that I stopped reading most Knicks articles.

Must really suck to be a writer at this time of the season with no real news going on.

MSG stock at $71.
Dumbass Berman cannot right an article that includes the corp. structure and that the knicks are but one entity of a larger company.

Title has "Could be"........Great job!

Granted, if renewal is off after an awful season why not compare it to other teams whose team floundered? What about the Lakers? Howz it going in orlando? Chicago? Is it a trend with other teams? Are some successful teams find a fall off perhaps due to price increase? Is the league slowing or perhaps retracting attendance? There are so many things in play here but lazy writer won't bring anything to the table but write a piece that has a negative tone.

Now, we all saw 17 wins suck so Im not suggesting a fluff piece, but to just go at it with a negative slant as if the knicks will run out of money is a joke.

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Good reporting from Berman right here.

Kind of like shooting the messenger, no?...It's not pretty no matter how much you put lipstick on it...More insight on where it begun might be last year's secondary market prices for Knick tickets...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrenc...

There’s been a lot of ticket price movement in the NBA this season. The surging Warriors have topped LeBron James and the Cavaliers as the priciest home ticket on the secondary market while the struggling Knicks have experienced quite the opposite effect; settling comfortably as basement dwellers in the Eastern Conference standings. Now, with Carmelo Anthony mulling over ending his season, the Knicks have seen plummeting secondary market ticket prices at Madison Square Garden.

Always an admirer of the limelight and the unofficial New York City ambassador, Anthony is likely to participate in this weekend’s All-Star Game on his home court despite his ailing knee problem. To Melo, his outlook is simple: If the fans want him at this Sunday’s game, he’ll play. But if the Knicks need him to save face in the second half, it’ll be a little more complicated.

With the 30-year-old planning to end his season after the All-Star Game, the Knicks will reach even lower depths on the secondary ticket market, where they have already seen prices fall considerably since the beginning of the season. According to TiqIQ, the average price for Knicks tickets this season is now $199, marking a price drop of 42.3% from October’s average of $286.71. However, the average price for the 14 remaining Knicks home games is just $164.89, marking an even bigger price decline for the potential games without Anthony in the lineup.

Anthony’s appearance in the All-Star Game may come as good news to those who’ve already purchased tickets. Both the East and West teams have experienced several players revoke their participation due to injury, with the latest being big-man Anthony Davis. Kobe Bryant, Blake Griffin and Dwyane Wade will all miss the game as well. NBA All-Star Game tickets on the secondary market still remain expensive amidst all the player scratches, with average price listed at $2,037.21 and the game’s get-in price starting at $775. Hotels are currently available for less than $100 in Manhattan and with airline tickets into NYC rarely exceeding $600 round trip, it’s very possible fans could fly into New York City and get a hotel room for less than the price of the cheapest ticket

April couldn’t come fast enough for the Knicks, who enter the All-Star break as the worst team in the league at 10-43. Wins have been hard enough to come by and will be an even bigger task when Anthony dons a suit for the remainder of the year.

Despite their troubles this season, the Knicks still own the third most expensive secondary ticket average in the NBA. Call it ironic that the league’s most lackluster team still garners big ticket prices, but the truth of the matter lies in the allure of The World’s Most Famous Arena. Situated in the heart of Midtown Manhattan, the mecca of basketball is a tourist’s best friend. Sure, a night out with the family to a Knicks game may be steep, but it’s the experience of The Garden that the customer is paying for. The price tag of that experience could come into question over the next 14 games.

it's great that dolan is being punished financially. it will be torture for him to stay completely out if the picture this year if the knicks underachieve.

but better still will be if the knicks actually field a competitive team that generates genuine excitement for the game rather than be purely entertainment.

if dolan loves the knicks as much as jackson does, he will not utter a peep and if he does, that peep should be "i believe in what phil is doing and besides i know nothing about basketball, as the last 15 years has proven...."

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Good reporting from Berman right here.

He definitely had to put in some work to get that information. Nice to have some real news.