Knicks · Best Knicks camp battle: Galloway vs. Grant (page 1)

GustavBahler @ 9/16/2015 12:47 PM
This is from a couple of weeks ago, didnt see anything posted. Couple more weeks to training camp.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/...

Ohm Youngmisuk, ESPN Staff Writer

With training camp set to begin near the end of this month, let's take a look at what might be the New York Knicks' best training camp battle to come: Langston Galloway versus Jerian Grant.

Phil Jackson even predicted as much in his long chat with friend Charley Rosen.

"I anticipate his competing with Langston Galloway for playing time," Jackson said.

Jose Calderon is expected to be the starting point guard, provided he can stay healthy. Galloway and Grant will be vying for minutes as the backup and both could also see minutes at shooting guard since the triangle offense utilizes combo guards.

Galloway is more of a point guard out of the two but his edge is that he has a year in the system under his belt. Galloway is a fighter who had to work hard to get to where he is. Taking advantage of the playing time once the roster was stripped down, Galloway played in 45 games last season, averaging 11.8 points, 3.3 assists and 4.2 rebounds in 32.4 minutes a game.

He scored 20 or more points on five different occasions, displaying an ability to get to the rim and score.

Langston Galloway averaged 12 points in 41 games as a starter for the Knicks last season. Jesse D.


But Galloway won't play as many minutes this season with the Knicks' additions in the offseason. And the Knicks will want to see what they got in Grant, one of their two first-round picks.

The Notre Dame point guard has explosive leaping ability and can shoot although he can be a streaky shooter.

"He knows the game and has a certain flair for it," Jackson said. "He's quick, has 3-point range, knows how to pass, can break a defense down with his handle, knows how to get through screens and is comfortable getting people involved on offense."

The Knicks and Jackson also love Grant's pedigree and mentality. Grant is the son of former Bullet Harvey Grant and nephew of former Bull Horace Grant. So he grew up around pro basketball. And he comes to the Knicks as NBA-ready as any player in the draft since he came out as a senior.

While Galloway may have the initial edge in experience in the triangle and in the NBA, Grant has the advantage in height at 6-foot-5 to Galloway's 6-2 stature.

Grant is a more dynamic and offensively explosive player and could see minutes at shooting guard if needed. But even if Uncle Horace won titles in the triangle and can provide invaluable knowledge, Grant will need time to digest the offense and it could take a while. That benefits Galloway.

During summer league in Vegas, Derek Fisher played Galloway an average of 31.3 minutes a game while Grant logged 27.4 minutes per game. Grant, though, played in five games while Galloway appeared in four.

Grant averaged 11.8 points, 4.8 assists, 3.2 rebounds and 1.6 steals. He also shot 39.1 percent overall and made 50 percent of his 3-point attempts.

Galloway did not shoot as well, making 32.3 percent of his shots and just 25 percent from behind the arc. But he rebounded better with an average of 5.5 boards to go with 9.8 points, 1.5 assists and 1.0 steals a game.

We'll have to see what both can do defensively. If Grant can stay in front of point guards and shooting guards, that would be big. The Knicks clearly are looking to take a major leap forward defensively this season.

Their numbers were close in summer league. And things might be pretty close between them in camp in what should be the best camp battle for the Knicks and Fisher this fall.

In the end, the Knicks will want to see what they have in Grant. They simply have more invested in Grant, and Jackson will want to see what he has in the future of his franchise and make sure that his prospects are developed correctly and properly.

But Galloway showed some moxie last season and got a taste of what he can do with opportunity. He won't back down from this challenge and neither will Grant.

It should be an interesting Knicks camp.

fishmike @ 9/16/2015 2:00 PM
ideally all 3 play very well, and Langston gets promoted after we trade Calderon to a team dying for a PG
nixluva @ 9/16/2015 2:56 PM
Jose is here to help make the transition smoother. He was never supposed to be the long term answer. Jerian is the heir apparent to the PG spot IMO. As soon as he shows he can handle the role Jerian is gonna be the lead guard IMO. Gallo can do what he's shown he can do already as a scoring guard and defender. Hopefully we can identify another Combo guard who can be added to the mix once Jose is gone.
TPercy @ 9/16/2015 5:51 PM
Galloway is not a good PG!! God damn.
nixluva @ 9/16/2015 6:02 PM
TPercy wrote:Galloway is not a good PG!! God damn.

Gallo is basically a new version of Fisher. More of a scoring guard than a PG. That's fine in this system. I really loved some of his Extra Effort plays and big shots. Made things fun last year.

GustavBahler @ 9/16/2015 6:15 PM
They might play as a backcourt at times, but there will definitely be a competition for minutes.That should hopefully bring out the best in both of their games. Galloway and Grant having to contend with Lopez and Porzingis in the paint will be good practice, for the rest of the team as well. Porzingis and his wingspan is going to them busy.
BigDaddyG @ 9/17/2015 2:13 PM
GustavBahler wrote:They might play as a backcourt at times, but there will definitely be a competition for minutes.That should hopefully bring out the best in both of their games. Galloway and Grant having to contend with Lopez and Porzingis in the paint will be good practice, for the rest of the team as well. Porzingis and his wingspan is going to them busy.

Hey, I pencilled in Gallo as the backup 2 and Grant as the reserve PG, but both positions are interchangeable. Plus, Calderone is certain to miss a few games this season. There will be enough minutes to pass around.

GustavBahler @ 9/17/2015 3:26 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:They might play as a backcourt at times, but there will definitely be a competition for minutes.That should hopefully bring out the best in both of their games. Galloway and Grant having to contend with Lopez and Porzingis in the paint will be good practice, for the rest of the team as well. Porzingis and his wingspan is going to them busy.

Hey, I pencilled in Gallo as the backup 2 and Grant as the reserve PG, but both positions are interchangeable. Plus, Calderone is certain to miss a few games this season. There will be enough minutes to pass around.

Yup, every season we go in with a bench full of guards, but by the end of the season, most of them are hurt. There will be competition for minutes, but Im sure there will be plenty of opportunities to move up the roster for those at the end of the bench.
TPercy @ 9/17/2015 8:38 PM
nixluva wrote:
TPercy wrote:Galloway is not a good PG!! God damn.

Gallo is basically a new version of Fisher. More of a scoring guard than a PG. That's fine in this system. I really loved some of his Extra Effort plays and big shots. Made things fun last year.

I'm hip. The guy is just an undersized SG who can score a little and play some damn good defense. I just don't know why waste him in a position that he is clearly not got at as his vision is just not good enough for a pg.

nixluva @ 9/17/2015 10:43 PM
TPercy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TPercy wrote:Galloway is not a good PG!! God damn.

Gallo is basically a new version of Fisher. More of a scoring guard than a PG. That's fine in this system. I really loved some of his Extra Effort plays and big shots. Made things fun last year.

I'm hip. The guy is just an undersized SG who can score a little and play some damn good defense. I just don't know why waste him in a position that he is clearly not got at as his vision is just not good enough for a pg.

No problems. Gallo is in a good place for his skills. This offense isn't really PG dependent. He's got just enough ability to run the strong side Triangle which is basically to feed the post or swing it to the other guard on the Weak side. Gallo can then go into scoring mode at that point as he cuts to the corner. Grant is perfect as the weak side PG who can work the two man game, see the floor and deliver the more difficult passes. Grant can work the PnR or Give n Go attacking the basket. Gallo can look to shoot the 3 or cut to the basket etc.

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