clyderules wrote:And I think that Trice will be a factor soon. I like him!
Agreed. The plan for him is to go to the DL and continue developing. I just hope it works out that way.
Finestrg wrote:clyderules wrote:And I think that Trice will be a factor soon. I like him!
Agreed. The plan for him is to go to the DL and continue developing. I just hope it works out that way.
I think it will. I like that they shook things up in Westchester at least in part because they thought Thanasis should have shown more growth.
ChuckBuck wrote:Finestrg wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:15 to 18 minutes a game tops starting for Calderon would be ideal. Just enough for him to hit like 2 or 3 meaningless buckets, while feeding Melo in the post during the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters of games.Any more than that, and you run the risk of getting Curried, Westbrooked, Pauled, Kyried, Walled, or Lilliard into oblivion.
Let him run his old ass 34 year old legs until they fall off by January. By then, Grant would be closing games at point anyways, and his transition to starter would be a natural progression as a rookie.
Good post. I think that's a very accurate assessment of the situation.
Common sense my bro. It's a point guard driven league. If you don't have adequate play at the 1, you're doomed from the get go.
Even without mentioning the upper echelon, you still got the Tony Parker's, the Kemba Walker's, the Mike Conley's, the Jeff Teague's. If you can't come close to matching their scoring/assist output and/or can't defend the point....you're in for a long ass season.
Precisely my fear for the Knicks. The game starts and ends with the PG position. If your PG can't defend or put pressure on the opposing team On offense,you are doomed. Calderon as I see him, is no longer the capable shot maker he was, because he is older and no longer has the legs. He was never a defender, so that is out of the question. He is ineffective in this system,because it doesn't require for the PG to be ball dominant.
I wish him a great season, because he is already on the roster. However, I am not optimistic
Knicks1969 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Finestrg wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:15 to 18 minutes a game tops starting for Calderon would be ideal. Just enough for him to hit like 2 or 3 meaningless buckets, while feeding Melo in the post during the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters of games.Any more than that, and you run the risk of getting Curried, Westbrooked, Pauled, Kyried, Walled, or Lilliard into oblivion.
Let him run his old ass 34 year old legs until they fall off by January. By then, Grant would be closing games at point anyways, and his transition to starter would be a natural progression as a rookie.
Good post. I think that's a very accurate assessment of the situation.
Common sense my bro. It's a point guard driven league. If you don't have adequate play at the 1, you're doomed from the get go.
Even without mentioning the upper echelon, you still got the Tony Parker's, the Kemba Walker's, the Mike Conley's, the Jeff Teague's. If you can't come close to matching their scoring/assist output and/or can't defend the point....you're in for a long ass season.
Precisely my fear for the Knicks. The game starts and ends with the PG position. If your PG can't defend or put pressure on the opposing team On offense,you are doomed. Calderon as I see him, is no longer the capable shot maker he was, because he is older and no longer has the legs. He was never a defender, so that is out of the question. He is ineffective in this system,because it doesn't require for the PG to be ball dominant.
I wish him a great season, because he is already on the roster. However, I am not optimistic
Just a matter of time, really. He may shock all of us for like a month, maybe month and a half.
Then reality and father time sets in....
It's like you guys are praying for his down fall..wow..smh
ChuckBuck wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Finestrg wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:15 to 18 minutes a game tops starting for Calderon would be ideal. Just enough for him to hit like 2 or 3 meaningless buckets, while feeding Melo in the post during the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters of games.Any more than that, and you run the risk of getting Curried, Westbrooked, Pauled, Kyried, Walled, or Lilliard into oblivion.
Let him run his old ass 34 year old legs until they fall off by January. By then, Grant would be closing games at point anyways, and his transition to starter would be a natural progression as a rookie.
Good post. I think that's a very accurate assessment of the situation.
Common sense my bro. It's a point guard driven league. If you don't have adequate play at the 1, you're doomed from the get go.
Even without mentioning the upper echelon, you still got the Tony Parker's, the Kemba Walker's, the Mike Conley's, the Jeff Teague's. If you can't come close to matching their scoring/assist output and/or can't defend the point....you're in for a long ass season.
Precisely my fear for the Knicks. The game starts and ends with the PG position. If your PG can't defend or put pressure on the opposing team On offense,you are doomed. Calderon as I see him, is no longer the capable shot maker he was, because he is older and no longer has the legs. He was never a defender, so that is out of the question. He is ineffective in this system,because it doesn't require for the PG to be ball dominant.
I wish him a great season, because he is already on the roster. However, I am not optimistic
Just a matter of time, really. He may shock all of us for like a month, maybe month and a half.
Then reality and father time sets in....
Certainly not me. His success benefits the Knicks on many level.
Finestrg wrote:herkyJerky wrote:Calderon is less likely to turn the ball over than Grant, much less likely. I really like Grant, but I've already seen him turn the ball over a bunch. In time Grant will clean that up. But until then, for the start of the season we have to go with the vet who's far less likely to turn it over. I'd rather deal with his defense and let guys like Afflalo, KP and RoLo pick up the slack than turn the ball over a bunch of times at the start of games and give the opponent all the tempo and pace right from the get-go. Plus he's a pretty damn good shooter.Galloway, on the other hand, doesn't turn the ball over as much. But I really like the way he and Grant play together, so for now they should both run the 2nd Unit. That's just my opinion. Basically what it comes down to is that for right now I do not want to split up the Grant Gallo combo. And I want to minimize the chances of sloppy play at the start of games. Calderon starting at the point gives us the best chances of that, at least for now.
Really? Disagree here--a main reason I don't care for him. I think he's very sloppy with the ball for a vet PG, esp. his passing.
Hopefully both their TO numbers will be low, but it'll be a fun statistic to keep an eye on.
