Regarding D Will, the issue most people had is that we signed him to a two year deal with a player option. So essentially, if he played well he would opt out and if he did not play well, he would opt in and we would be stuck with him. By signing him, we have his Bird rights so that gives us an advantage, but we should have gotten a team option so we could keep him for cheap for two years if he panned out. D will had no leverage this summer. That being said, it still clearly was a good pickup.
mreinman wrote:gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:BRIGGS wrote:The guy can flat out score. I thought I was watching a version of sprewell out there with his locks and play. He also rebounded like his athleticism and size dictates he can. I thought he handled the ball very well for 6-8 240 and while he did take 17 shots in 24 minutes--he was also a ball mover. I think we have a 6th man of the year type here--thats IF he is not moved into the SL.
And you were one of the MANY on here that stomped all over Phil signing D-Will. I can't remember too many liking this move besides me and Nixluva.
Youre memory must be failing you. I was easily the first person on this board who suggested signing Derrick Williams. Man you never get anything right lol
I was the first to express interest in Derrick Williams back in 2013 when it became evident the team was going nowhere after the great 18-5 start. I felt even then Derrick Williams upside was worth trading Melo for if we got back a lottery pick or 2. Problem was my trade proposal wouldve involved shipping Melo and Lala to basketball Siberia in Minnesota but he didn't have the no trade Claus then. It would've led to a head start on rebuilding and the Bargani trade would've never happened. At the same time Phil may or may not have been interested in taking over the reigns. I think he still would've. He has his eyes on the team back when we signed Amare and traded for Melo. Which he referred to as clumsy. The fact that he even commented on the Knicks means he was hovering around until Irving Azoff & Dolan sealed the deal with $60mil.
Safe to say I was a happy camper when out of the blue we signed DW this offseason.
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guns ... funny stuff :-)
so you wanted him, you loved shump and thought he was a star. You were dying for monroe (who had good moments last night) who I think is the absolute wrong type of player.
YOU THINK EWING WAS A BETTER OFFENSIVE PLAYER THAN BARKLEY!! 
so you want to be right about DWil (who I think has still far from proven himself) ... I can live with that!
Edit: and btw, your trade proposal was terrible!
I hope you are/were right about Dwil ... that would make me very very happy
My point is I'm always right so stop arguing with me
Just wait until Shump reaches his potential. He already is one of the best perimeter defenders in the game which is why Cleveland paid him
i was one of the folks who heavily criticized phil for signing this guy for 5 mill and then a play her option for this next yr. but so far im pleased with his play so far. my only hope is that he stays consistent with his defense rebounding etc etc
BRIGGS wrote:The guy can flat out score. I thought I was watching a version of sprewell out there with his locks and play. He also rebounded like his athleticism and size dictates he can. I thought he handled the ball very well for 6-8 240 and while he did take 17 shots in 24 minutes--he was also a ball mover. I think we have a 6th man of the year type here--thats IF he is not moved into the SL.
he's been real good for us, but as far as the "biggest" addition...? does that really matter? it's the same as saying player x is better than player y. makes no sense in a team game. he has been extremely valuable thus far and lets hope that continues. but he in no way should be playing a starting role when he is so great against opponents' benches. moreover he LIKES coming off the bench and wreaking havoc. i will say this.. man he can finish great around the basket and he's got a sweet arc on his jumper.
I guess it was a bit premature to crown him 6 man of the year
WaltLongmire wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:A nice pre-season, and one regular season game.Long season ahead of us.
I was one of the skeptical ones about Williams- although I don't recall going crazy about it and usually said that Phil and Fisher must think they can get something from him, but I always chuckled to myself when some of you guys were crying about us giving him a $10M contract when we actually gave him less than $9M. I'm no advanced stat guy, but I know how to add.
Derrick Williams $4,400,000 $4,598,000
Fisher would have had some knowledge of Williams from his days as a player...I wonder how that factored into us picking him up?
You still see some forced passes and rushed shots, but he seems to have found ways to really take advantage of our offense, and when he's moving and cutting and getting free for some open midrange shots, he's been great so far, and we already knew what he could do in the open court.
Fits in well with our second unit which has quicker guards who allow Williams to take advantage of his speed and aggressiveness.
One down, at least 81 to go.
Draft bust vindicates Phil Jackson’s $10 million risk
By Marc Berman October 29, 2015 | 2:15pm
I know its only $1M, but this is why this idiot drives me crazy.
Had KP weighing 190lbs, at one point, if I remember correctly, and I think he's gotten other things wrong at times. Opinions and spin are one thing...facts are facts because they are true.
2 for $10M comes across as much more than 2 for $8,998,000, though, and his job is to provoke.
The job for most sports writers is to provoke. Yesterday the Knicks were so new and fresh and different from last year, and tonight all of a sudden it's a dose of same ol' same ol' reality. There's a word/name for a lot of these people. It rhymes with hores. Lol jk, some of them are actually pretty good.
I'd say Porzingis and/or making the extra pass is the biggest change but, yes, Williams hasn't disappointed.
