kp's floor impact is terrific. if this keeps up he is likely going to be the best draftee since ewing. most impressive is that he's a quick study defensively. he thwarts virtually every defensive assignment he faces, learning and adapting immediately. he is an athlete who happens to play basketball. when the game slows down for him on offense and he picks up some footwork and finesse shots he is going to be an all-star. i see garnett-like levels in him potentially. is it too soon to say he's a warrior?
fisher: i love this guy's postgame panache. what a contrast to woodson. the impression i got is that his biggest challenge will be corralling and not kowtowing to melo, getting him to play smarter and less selfishly. this came through crystal clear in his postgame interview... at least on the radio it did. i think he has the making of a great coach. so smart, so insightful, so media-savvy. meanwhile melo, wake the fukk up: leonard is guarding you dude, you need to have more than two assists.
i have figured out the perfect analogy for carmelo: he has no counterpunching ability whatsoever.
Oh Lord, please let Afflalo come back soon, our starting backcourt is a joke! Their combined scoring:
Vs Bucks: 14pts
Vs Hawks: 8Pts
Vs Wiz: 14Pts
Vs Spurs: 8Pts
Is that some sort of record? AND remember these are two atrocious defenders!
smackeddog wrote:Oh Lord, please let Afflalo come back soon, our starting backcourt is a joke! Their combined scoring:Vs Bucks: 14pts
Vs Hawks: 8Pts
Vs Wiz: 14Pts
Vs Spurs: 8Pts
Is that some sort of record? AND remember these are two atrocious defenders!
Defense is not really his forte, I just hope his 3pt stroke is there and that he can settle some possesions down by posting up 2s on occasions..His ball handling will be welcomed too.
see this is an example of a lack of counterpunching: melo has the best small forward defender in the league guarding him and not only does he shoot a miserable 4-17 with merely two assists, but instead of working the ball like he did the prior game, he falls into his worst tendencies, represented by the fact that he had a respectable usage rate of 29.2% but an execrable assist rate of 10.2%, for a 3:1 ratio. if he is not looking to pass the ball more even when he knows they are keying on him, then he HAS TO find ways to make plays for others or simply make crisp passes and rely on teammates to make plays and score instead.
again, fisher's postgame comments addressed this issue in a very roundabout way, almost speaking in code about it. if i can find the interview at some point i will post it, or transliterate it.
One thing I'll say about Calderon - he at least learned how to get open threes against the Spurs last night.
But, yeah, Tony Parker torched him. Tony had been averaging 8ppg on the season - Tony was 7-12 with 16pts last night.
I can't wait for Afflalo to be healthy.
At that point I would really start Afflalo and Galloway.
I might even say Afflalo and Grant.
Something needs to change with the starting guards.
Also, KP was astounding last night.
I don't know if I expected a performance like this until mid-season or maybe next season. The fact that he seemed to up his game for the Spurs was very impressive.
His defense, his court awareness, his rebounding, his offensive moves (he had some great moves on Duncan that didn't go down) - he looked like the real deal last night.
Hope his injury is not too serious and he can get back on the floor soon. Those neck strains can linger for a while, unfortunately.
Obviously more we keep starting calderon and sasha the tougher time we will have digging ourselves out of holes like we were against Atlanta and The Spurs. Grant and Galloway need to get starters minutes now. Porzingis keeps looking better every game I just hope his neck is ok. Derrick Williams may need more minutes because his offense is important to us
One thing - the Spurs and Hawks have two of the best team defenses in the NBA. They both play a similar system. Knicks won't have as hard a time scoring against other teams. These games have to be learning experiences for the team at this point. You saw both Grant and KP flashing signs of the future and learning how to play against the very best last night. That's all I can ask for with this team.
crzymdups wrote:One thing - the Spurs and Hawks have two of the best team defenses in the NBA. They both play a similar system. Knicks won't have as hard a time scoring against other teams. These games have to be learning experiences for the team at this point. You saw both Grant and KP flashing signs of the future and learning how to play against the very best last night. That's all I can ask for with this team.
I agree. No doubt this would have been a difficult game to win just like Atlanta. We need to be able to beat the other flawed teams and we will be fine.
crzymdups wrote:Also, KP was astounding last night.I don't know if I expected a performance like this until mid-season or maybe next season. The fact that he seemed to up his game for the Spurs was very impressive.
His defense, his court awareness, his rebounding, his offensive moves (he had some great moves on Duncan that didn't go down) - he looked like the real deal last night.
Hope his injury is not too serious and he can get back on the floor soon. Those neck strains can linger for a while, unfortunately.
And for the most part he gets some real good looks but his shot just isn't falling. His shooting efficiency is mostly down to missed tip ins and missed open 3s. When those start hitting consistently he will be able to put up 10-12pts consistently without having a single play called for him.
newyorknewyork wrote:crzymdups wrote:Also, KP was astounding last night.I don't know if I expected a performance like this until mid-season or maybe next season. The fact that he seemed to up his game for the Spurs was very impressive.
His defense, his court awareness, his rebounding, his offensive moves (he had some great moves on Duncan that didn't go down) - he looked like the real deal last night.
Hope his injury is not too serious and he can get back on the floor soon. Those neck strains can linger for a while, unfortunately.
And for the most part he gets some real good looks but his shot just isn't falling. His shooting efficiency is mostly down to missed tip ins and missed open 3s. When those start hitting consistently he will be able to put up 10-12pts consistently without having a single play called for him.
Keep in mind he is using a lot of energy playing good tough defense and fighting for rebounds so sometimes it takes a lot outta you on the offensive side.
newyorknewyork wrote:crzymdups wrote:Also, KP was astounding last night.I don't know if I expected a performance like this until mid-season or maybe next season. The fact that he seemed to up his game for the Spurs was very impressive.
His defense, his court awareness, his rebounding, his offensive moves (he had some great moves on Duncan that didn't go down) - he looked like the real deal last night.
Hope his injury is not too serious and he can get back on the floor soon. Those neck strains can linger for a while, unfortunately.
And for the most part he gets some real good looks but his shot just isn't falling. His shooting efficiency is mostly down to missed tip ins and missed open 3s. When those start hitting consistently he will be able to put up 10-12pts consistently without having a single play called for him.
If he is able to start hitting some of those shots consistently, I honestly think he'll be a 20ppg+ player. He had 13pts last night in an offense not really designed to get him looks and some good looks that didn't go down. He could have had 17pts easy last night alone.
I think before the end of the season, maybe much sooner, he'll have a break out game where he scores 20+ points and all sorts of other impact defensive stats.
I'm very impressed.
crzymdups wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:crzymdups wrote:Also, KP was astounding last night.I don't know if I expected a performance like this until mid-season or maybe next season. The fact that he seemed to up his game for the Spurs was very impressive.
His defense, his court awareness, his rebounding, his offensive moves (he had some great moves on Duncan that didn't go down) - he looked like the real deal last night.
Hope his injury is not too serious and he can get back on the floor soon. Those neck strains can linger for a while, unfortunately.
And for the most part he gets some real good looks but his shot just isn't falling. His shooting efficiency is mostly down to missed tip ins and missed open 3s. When those start hitting consistently he will be able to put up 10-12pts consistently without having a single play called for him.
If he is able to start hitting some of those shots consistently, I honestly think he'll be a 20ppg+ player. He had 13pts last night in an offense not really designed to get him looks and some good looks that didn't go down. He could have had 17pts easy last night alone.
I think before the end of the season, maybe much sooner, he'll have a break out game where he scores 20+ points and all sorts of other impact defensive stats.
I'm very impressed.
I disagree with the not designed to get him looks part. He is getting great looks and a lot of them he is open. On top of that he passes up open shots occasionally being too passive or he might pass an open look and dribble into traffic like he did last night.
He will learn though. That's one thing it seems to me he does is learn quickly from his mistakes and adjust accordingly.
If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.
2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
phuck NY fans they are azzholes. Let me get my buckets thats what I do.
ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
What kind of adjustments should he have done. Should he have stopped shooting, tried to get to the line more, or let the team take control in the 4th?
yellowboy90 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
What kind of adjustments should he have done. Should he have stopped shooting, tried to get to the line more, or let the team take control in the 4th?
don't force shots against the best defender in the league? This is not a pissing contest.
yellowboy90 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
What kind of adjustments should he have done. Should he have stopped shooting, tried to get to the line more, or let the team take control in the 4th?
Move the ball for one. Rule #1 when going against the best defensive player in the league.
It's like when QB's avoid throwing to Revis Island...there's a reason for it. It's not just coincidence.
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
What kind of adjustments should he have done. Should he have stopped shooting, tried to get to the line more, or let the team take control in the 4th?
don't force shots against the best defender in the league? This is not a pissing contest.
He went 2/6 in the 3rd. It's not like he started jacking up jumper after jumper. In the 3rd he was also 7/8 from the line. In the 4th he took 2 shots. One was open after he passed it to Kris on the PnP for an open three but Kris passed it back to Melo for an open 3. The other shot was a poor attempt to sneak one up when he landed on Kris. His 2nd half was different than his 1st but his shooting results were similar.
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
What kind of adjustments should he have done. Should he have stopped shooting, tried to get to the line more, or let the team take control in the 4th?
don't force shots against the best defender in the league? This is not a pissing contest.
He went 2/6 in the 3rd. It's not like he started jacking up jumper after jumper. In the 3rd he was also 7/8 from the line. In the 4th he took 2 shots. One was open after he passed it to Kris on the PnP for an open three but Kris passed it back to Melo for an open 3. The other shot was a poor attempt to sneak one up when he landed on Kris. His 2nd half was different than his 1st but his shooting results were similar.
And 17 shot attempts isn't crazy, especially with 12ft attempts. He had 2 ast in the first half but didn't pick up any in the 2nd. He had 1 turnover even with a 29% usage.
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:If this was hockey, the first star would go to Porzingis. Best game of his young career.2nd star, to Jerian Grant. What a steal for THJR. All the makings of our PG for the long haul.
Negative stars, Carmelo Anthony. Had Kawhi, Defensive Player of the Year, Leonard and still tried to shoot over him at will. It's like if Tom Brady sees an all out blitz and doesn't audible out of his original play to counter. Melo has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Didn't make any adjustments...
What kind of adjustments should he have done. Should he have stopped shooting, tried to get to the line more, or let the team take control in the 4th?
don't force shots against the best defender in the league? This is not a pissing contest.
He went 2/6 in the 3rd. It's not like he started jacking up jumper after jumper. In the 3rd he was also 7/8 from the line. In the 4th he took 2 shots. One was open after he passed it to Kris on the PnP for an open three but Kris passed it back to Melo for an open 3. The other shot was a poor attempt to sneak one up when he landed on Kris. His 2nd half was different than his 1st but his shooting results were similar.
Don't care how many shots, just learn that you don't take contested shots and there is never/rarely a need for any hero shot. Do be honest, I missed a lot of the second half but the first half had some really terrible plays.
His mind set was to beat leonard and show him who melo (still) is. That is not the right mind set. Tim Duncan will never get caught up in stupid sh1t like that.
