Knicks · Calderon's D is worse then bad (page 1)

Rookie @ 11/24/2015 9:44 AM
Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

franco12 @ 11/24/2015 9:51 AM
Once Afflalo came back, he should have been the 4th guard in a rotation.
knicks1248 @ 11/24/2015 10:00 AM
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Really, the heat shot 38% and how many ppl have success guarding wade and dragic

it's not just calderon who gets beat, galloway, grant, and sasha get lit up as well. That's why we have two 7 footers

Honestly, base on your system, its going to be a challenge every night to defend guards in the NBA, especially aggressive ones. It's too many screens, Pnr, there's very little one on one.

Knicks1969 @ 11/24/2015 10:03 AM
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Love affair??? Calderon is one of the worst defenders the league has ever seen. Since he is still on the roster, we are all trying to encourage him to do what he does best; which is shooting the ball. When he only takes 4 shots in a game, he does the Knicks a disservice; because other then being able to make an open shot, he does not do anything else.

At this juncture of his career, Calderon should be used strictly as reserve shooting guard. He doesn't have the foot speed to breakdown the opposing defenses as a PG; thus his game NEEDS to transition

Rookie @ 11/24/2015 10:14 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Really, the heat shot 38% and how many ppl have success guarding wade and dragic

it's not just calderon who gets beat, galloway, grant, and sasha get lit up as well. That's why we have two 7 footers

Honestly, base on your system, its going to be a challenge every night to defend guards in the NBA, especially aggressive ones. It's too many screens, Pnr, there's very little one on one.

Their offense is designed to neutralize size. Calderon's lack of effort on D just makes it easy for them to get whatever they want. Atleast Galloway made them work for it by fighting over screens and chasing guards instead of switching.

A motion offense is a category of offensive scheme used in basketball. Motion offenses use player movement, often as a strategy to exploit quickness of the offensive team or to neutralize a size advantage of the defense.

Motion offenses are different from continuity offenses in that they follow no fixed repeating pattern. Instead a motion offense is free-flowing and unrestricted, following a set of rules. Some examples of basic rules that are commonly used are:

Pass and screen away: Players pass to one side of the court and seek to screen for players on the opposite side of the court. The hope is to create spacing and driving lanes to basket.
Back screen: Players in the key seek to screen players on the wing and open them up for basket cuts.
Flare screen: Player without the ball on the perimeter seeks to set a screen (usually near the elbow area of the lane) for another player without the ball at the top of the key area.

Knixkik @ 11/24/2015 10:20 AM
At least Calderon is starting to make some shots. But Galloway and Afflalo need to be seeing 32 mins each and Calderon and Grant should be splitting the remaining minutes. Vujacic should never play when those 4 guards are healthy.
Knicks1969 @ 11/24/2015 10:23 AM
The one player that really needs minutes is Early. He needs to replace Sasha
knicks1248 @ 11/24/2015 10:25 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Love affair??? Calderon is one of the worst defenders the league has ever seen. Since he is still on the roster, we are all trying to encourage him to do what he does best; which is shooting the ball. When he only takes 4 shots in a game, he does the Knicks a disservice; because other then being able to make an open shot, he does not do anything else.

At this juncture of his career, Calderon should be used strictly as reserve shooting guard. He doesn't have the foot speed to breakdown the opposing defenses as a PG; thus his game NEEDS to transition

The guy needs to play 50% of his minutes at sg, preferably when grants in the game, who's really the only pg we have that penetrates.

Here's a real stat for you, calderone is second on the team in steals after galloway. Wanna know how many steals Affalo has had...ZERO on the season.

Miami defends the PnR better than any team in the league, calderone got no open looks last night. Im not defending calderon so much, I just think you guys are over reacting. He's not stopping any one, but he's not just laying down either, he tries

Knicks1969 @ 11/24/2015 11:00 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Love affair??? Calderon is one of the worst defenders the league has ever seen. Since he is still on the roster, we are all trying to encourage him to do what he does best; which is shooting the ball. When he only takes 4 shots in a game, he does the Knicks a disservice; because other then being able to make an open shot, he does not do anything else.

At this juncture of his career, Calderon should be used strictly as reserve shooting guard. He doesn't have the foot speed to breakdown the opposing defenses as a PG; thus his game NEEDS to transition

The guy needs to play 50% of his minutes at sg, preferably when grants in the game, who's really the only pg we have that penetrates.

Here's a real stat for you, calderone is second on the team in steals after galloway. Wanna know how many steals Affalo has had...ZERO on the season.

Miami defends the PnR better than any team in the league, calderone got no open looks last night. Im not defending calderon so much, I just think you guys are over reacting. He's not stopping any one, but he's not just laying down either, he tries

Dude; as I stated before, I don't really care about his weakness on defense as long as he is taking and making shots. He only took four show last night and that is unaceptable in my opinion; specifically, for a guy that can make shot and also give up 20+ points to anyone he defends:)))

Calderon needs to take 10+ shots per game

knicks1248 @ 11/24/2015 11:19 AM
Knicks1969 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Love affair??? Calderon is one of the worst defenders the league has ever seen. Since he is still on the roster, we are all trying to encourage him to do what he does best; which is shooting the ball. When he only takes 4 shots in a game, he does the Knicks a disservice; because other then being able to make an open shot, he does not do anything else.

At this juncture of his career, Calderon should be used strictly as reserve shooting guard. He doesn't have the foot speed to breakdown the opposing defenses as a PG; thus his game NEEDS to transition

The guy needs to play 50% of his minutes at sg, preferably when grants in the game, who's really the only pg we have that penetrates.

Here's a real stat for you, calderone is second on the team in steals after galloway. Wanna know how many steals Affalo has had...ZERO on the season.

Miami defends the PnR better than any team in the league, calderone got no open looks last night. Im not defending calderon so much, I just think you guys are over reacting. He's not stopping any one, but he's not just laying down either, he tries

Dude; as I stated before, I don't really care about his weakness on defense as long as he is taking and making shots. He only took four show last night and that is unaceptable in my opinion; specifically, for a guy that can make shot and also give up 20+ points to anyone he defends:)))

Calderon needs to take 10+ shots per game

I agree, but he's not going to get those attempts consistently unless he plays some SG. It's fishers job to put his players in the right position, and so far h has been as inconsistent as the players.

Knicks1969 @ 11/24/2015 11:29 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
Rookie wrote:Anyone notice how bad Calderon was against Miami guards. Our bigs had to help every time Calderon's man touched the ball. At one point I noticed KP getting frustrated and he would leave Bosh to guard Calderon's man as soon as he touched the ball. It really screws up defensive rotations and is why Miami killed us in the paint.

People might be happy that Calderon is hitting his shots with consistency, but on D it is like he isn't even there. Guards get wherever they want to go and the help D leaves cutters open lanes. Knicks played much better with Galloway getting minutes even though he wasn't scoring. Galloway's pesky D on Miami guards made them work for everything.

I just don't get the recent love affair with Calderon here. He sucks!

Love affair??? Calderon is one of the worst defenders the league has ever seen. Since he is still on the roster, we are all trying to encourage him to do what he does best; which is shooting the ball. When he only takes 4 shots in a game, he does the Knicks a disservice; because other then being able to make an open shot, he does not do anything else.

At this juncture of his career, Calderon should be used strictly as reserve shooting guard. He doesn't have the foot speed to breakdown the opposing defenses as a PG; thus his game NEEDS to transition

The guy needs to play 50% of his minutes at sg, preferably when grants in the game, who's really the only pg we have that penetrates.

Here's a real stat for you, calderone is second on the team in steals after galloway. Wanna know how many steals Affalo has had...ZERO on the season.

Miami defends the PnR better than any team in the league, calderone got no open looks last night. Im not defending calderon so much, I just think you guys are over reacting. He's not stopping any one, but he's not just laying down either, he tries

Dude; as I stated before, I don't really care about his weakness on defense as long as he is taking and making shots. He only took four show last night and that is unaceptable in my opinion; specifically, for a guy that can make shot and also give up 20+ points to anyone he defends:)))

Calderon needs to take 10+ shots per game

I agree, but he's not going to get those attempts consistently unless he plays some SG. It's fishers job to put his players in the right position, and so far h has been as inconsistent as the players.

Be careful dude, there are a lot of Fisher lovers around here:::))))

To be honest, I don't see a need for Calderon if he is not scoring the ball. To score, he needs to shoot. Make or miss, I will be fine with him. He just has to shoot the ball to project an offensive threat when he is on the floor

gunsnewing @ 11/24/2015 12:04 PM
franco12 wrote:Once Afflalo came back, he should have been the 4th guard in a rotation.

Hopefully Grant is ready sooner than later. We won't be able to stop good teams and play NBA defense with Calderon as the weaklink. A PG who can stay in front of his man is critical. That is where defensive sets begin. At the point of attack. Force the ball out of the PGs hands and the defense has time to set, think and react. Players can execute their roles instead of our bigs scrambling to cover for Caderon and getting into quick foul trouble

ChuckBuck @ 11/24/2015 1:31 PM
Calderon sure knows how to matador D and box out well.

clyderules @ 11/24/2015 1:47 PM
Toure Murray, Erick Green and Bryce Cotton still out there. They can play!
mreinman @ 11/24/2015 1:49 PM
of late Jose's defensive has not been that much worse than Grants and at least Jose hits shots
Nalod @ 11/24/2015 1:51 PM
Rookie @ 11/24/2015 3:13 PM
Nalod wrote:

hahha...made of air, like Calderon's Defense!

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