anrst wrote:Hahn is obviously holding back on ripping Fischer on the post game for his lineups... he wants to, cmon alan. you can do it.
Another 12 men outing by fisher. We were right there, once again, fisher got outclassed and Carmelo found the perfect time to stop scoring the ball. Instead of riding Lance and KO, the neophyte decides to try to go big, specifically while the destroyer (Whiteside) is in the paint causing havoc. Dumb coaching once again by a dumb coach.
There you have iT
I agree Fisher has some really odd substitution patterns. I feel he's trying to show his players he believes in them. I can't go off the deep end yet. Let's see what December brings. By Christmas we could really start to figure out what's really wrong with this situation or things will fix itself....or better/worse, Phil will fix it.
EnySpree wrote:I agree Fisher has some really odd substitution patterns. I feel he's trying to show his players he believes in them. I can't go off the deep end yet. Let's see what December brings. By Christmas we could really start to figure out what's really wrong with this situation or things will fix itself....or better/worse, Phil will fix it.
Fisher looked this terrible last year too. How long will it take for folks around here to finally figure that he is not suited to be a coach? If we did not have talent on the roster, it would be one thing, but we do.
Knicks1969 wrote:EnySpree wrote:I agree Fisher has some really odd substitution patterns. I feel he's trying to show his players he believes in them. I can't go off the deep end yet. Let's see what December brings. By Christmas we could really start to figure out what's really wrong with this situation or things will fix itself....or better/worse, Phil will fix it.
Fisher looked this terrible last year too. How long will it take for folks around here to finally figure that he is not suited to be a coach? If we did not have talent on the roster, it would be one thing, but we do.
The problem is the coaching is making the players look suspect, and then you here people say we're just not talented enough.
It's like a system that puts shaq on the perimeter shooting long jumpers and 3's,then declaring shaq sucks, and it has nothing to do with the coach or the system.
knicks1248 wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:EnySpree wrote:I agree Fisher has some really odd substitution patterns. I feel he's trying to show his players he believes in them. I can't go off the deep end yet. Let's see what December brings. By Christmas we could really start to figure out what's really wrong with this situation or things will fix itself....or better/worse, Phil will fix it.
Fisher looked this terrible last year too. How long will it take for folks around here to finally figure that he is not suited to be a coach? If we did not have talent on the roster, it would be one thing, but we do.
The problem is the coaching is making the players look suspect, and then you here people say we're just not talented enough.
It's like a system that puts shaq on the perimeter shooting long jumpers and 3's,then declaring shaq sucks, and it has nothing to do with the coach or the system.
I couldn't agree with you more. No good coach or coaches would never find it ok to have: Grant, Galloway, Lance, SERAPHIN, and KO on the court at the same time. Out of that group, how do you expect to manufacture points? It is simply not a coincidence why we can't ever sustain a lead. We had a formula that was working nicely with: Grant, Galloway, Williams, Lance and KO. That group had three guys who were very athletic and could go get their own shots and three guys who could help spread the floor. The one tweak Fisher needed to make was to just add one of the starters with four of those guys to obtain maximum output. That dumb dude chose to destroy the vital chemistry. SERAPHIN, Sasha and Lou really have no business being on the court.
Can someone please explain the statement below by Fisher regarding a set rotation:
Coach Derek Fisher hinted at shortening his use of a 12- and 13-man rotation heading into the weekend, but still used 11 players for the majority of the game, with Lou Amundson making a five-minute appearance at the end of the blowout. Sasha Vujacic did not play.
“It’s different than a year ago, so I like doing it this way more than how I felt last year,” Fisher said before the game. “I think it’s an advantage because it creates an environment where every guy will make sure he’s ready when his number’s called because so far guys have seen that each night it could be a different guy whose number is called.
Knicks1969 wrote:Can someone please explain the statement below by Fisher regarding a set rotation:
Coach Derek Fisher hinted at shortening his use of a 12- and 13-man rotation heading into the weekend, but still used 11 players for the majority of the game, with Lou Amundson making a five-minute appearance at the end of the blowout. Sasha Vujacic did not play.
“It’s different than a year ago, so I like doing it this way more than how I felt last year,” Fisher said before the game. “I think it’s an advantage because it creates an environment where every guy will make sure he’s ready when his number’s called because so far guys have seen that each night it could be a different guy whose number is called.
Changing things up once in a while is a good thing, keep players on their toes. Problem is Fisher is discounting the importance of continuity. Players need to know their roles, Fisher seems to be saying that there are no defined roles on this team. For someone who hasn't shown a great deal as a coach, this Xbox approach isn't a good long term plan.
I want to hear Phil's opinion of these musical lineups. If it starts working, more power to Fisher, but he better figure it out soon. I get that we aren't contending this year, but that doesnt mean this team shouldn't be trying to anyway
GustavBahler wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:Can someone please explain the statement below by Fisher regarding a set rotation:
Coach Derek Fisher hinted at shortening his use of a 12- and 13-man rotation heading into the weekend, but still used 11 players for the majority of the game, with Lou Amundson making a five-minute appearance at the end of the blowout. Sasha Vujacic did not play.
“It’s different than a year ago, so I like doing it this way more than how I felt last year,” Fisher said before the game. “I think it’s an advantage because it creates an environment where every guy will make sure he’s ready when his number’s called because so far guys have seen that each night it could be a different guy whose number is called.
Changing things up once in a while is a good thing, keep players on their toes. Problem is Fisher is discounting the importance of continuity. Players need to know their roles, Fisher seems to be saying that there are no defined roles on this team. For someone who hasn't shown a great deal as a coach, this Xbox approach isn't a good long term plan.
I want to hear Phil's opinion of these musical lineups. If it starts working, more power to Fisher, but he better figure it out soon. I get that we aren't contending this year, but that doesnt mean this team shouldn't be trying to anyway
I don't know what gives this dude the temerity to think and act as he is right now. He is an unproven dude who won just 17 games out of 82, instead of using the formula that has proven to work, he thinks he can come and do things differently. Phil needs to swallow his pride and dictate to this dude what he needs to do, because he is clueless
“Playing 10 guys is hard for me to get enough minutes for players to get a rhythm,’’ Clifford said. “If I play nine, it’s a whole different world.’’
I swear Berman come to this sight to find ideas to write about. Which of you is Berman??
I am so surprised fisher found it within his heart to abstain from using more then 11 players tonight. I know he had the itch to play Lou or Sasha; I wonder if Phil finally had the talk with him.
Knicks1969 wrote:I am so surprised fisher found it within his heart to abstain from using more then 11 players tonight. I know he had the itch to play Lou or Sasha; I wonder if Phil finally had the talk with him.
maybe phil told him to play them in the first place? Fisher is not the one who signed them.
mreinman wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:I am so surprised fisher found it within his heart to abstain from using more then 11 players tonight. I know he had the itch to play Lou or Sasha; I wonder if Phil finally had the talk with him.
maybe phil told him to play them in the first place? Fisher is not the one who signed them.
I doubt Phil would ever ask fisher to run a 13 men rotation; that would contradict his philosophy. Phil has never used a 13 men rotation when he coached
mreinman wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:I am so surprised fisher found it within his heart to abstain from using more then 11 players tonight. I know he had the itch to play Lou or Sasha; I wonder if Phil finally had the talk with him.
maybe phil told him to play them in the first place? Fisher is not the one who signed them.
I doubt Phil would ever ask fisher to run a 13 men rotation; that would contradict his philosophy. Phil has never used a 13 men rotation when he coached
you sure about that?
Have you ever listened to Fisher's post game interviews? You should know that the dude has a Napoleon's mentality.
Here is a startling stat that you all need to chew on
Caldron: 37 minutes of play; scored only 7 points (2 for 7); 7 boards and 4 assists
The young Grant: 11 minutes of play, 7 points (3for 3) and had 2 boards to go along
Now, I want the Fisher lovers to please provide me a viable explanation for those numbers.
A good coach would know that the young Grant needs to play a good 15 minutes each game to really learn the speed of the game. As I have often said, Calderon at this juncture of his career Is worthless if he is not shooting the ball at least 15 times. He only scored 7 points, but he gave away a total amount of 32 points to the opposing PGs last night. Out of those 37 minutes, his assignment was to guard Beverly, Terry, and Thorthon
Is anybody except Barnes' ex a true Fisher lover?
clyderules wrote:Is anybody except Barnes' ex a true Fisher lover?
Some around here tend to be a little sensitive when this dude gets criticized
Knicks1969 wrote:clyderules wrote:Is anybody except Barnes' ex a true Fisher lover?
Some around here tend to be a little sensitive when this dude gets criticized
not really. nobody is invested in fisher.
Knicks1969 wrote:Here is a startling stat that you all need to chew onCaldron: 37 minutes of play; scored only 7 points (2 for 7); 7 boards and 4 assists
The young Grant: 11 minutes of play, 7 points (3for 3) and had 2 boards to go along
Now, I want the Fisher lovers to please provide me a viable explanation for those numbers.
A good coach would know that the young Grant needs to play a good 15 minutes each game to really learn the speed of the game. As I have often said, Calderon at this juncture of his career Is worthless if he is not shooting the ball at least 15 times. He only scored 7 points, but he gave away a total amount of 32 points to the opposing PGs last night. Out of those 37 minutes, his assignment was to guard Beverly, Terry, and Thorthon
KOQ played 20 minutes our previous game and 4 minutes last night, the rotation is comedy central every night..7 losses this season primarily because of bad bad rotations
