Knicks · Improved NYK Dfisher..needs way too much talent to figure it out. (page 2)

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:There are a handful of bad coaches around the league, one of them is the HC of the Knicks

You think the team is underperforming after its playoff run last season and thought they'd be building off of that?
Or he is ruining the top rook after 20 games?
or his stellar all star back court is not in synch with its all star center?
or the reigning sixth man of the year is not producing off the bench?

Or you one of those starphuching fans who prefer we go after instant gratification changes and think "Oh jeeze, anyone can coach this badly!!!!" Too bad we can't get XXXXX or XXXXX.

The dude simply can't coach. He calls no plays, his sub patterns are terrible; he doesn't believe in continuity; and knows nothing about coaching defense. He is not even suited to coach a highschool basketball team from what I have seen the last 101 games. I was hoping that he would be better this season, but I am sorely disappointed.

Come back to us after you try watching or listening to some games.

And if you're going to include a rookie coaching year with a sub-NCAA Div III roster for most of last year, you really need to up your meds. You may have heard the news about that whole tanking for a high first round draft pick, haven't you?

Dude, I got NBALP because of the Knicks. I am heavily invested in this team; which is precisely why I am sick and tired of the masquerade Fisher is doing on the sidelines. I want to give the fool a chance, but he shows no desire to alter his egos. It is one thing if we did not have talents, but we do. Playing Sasha, Calderon, Seraphin, and Lou over Grant, Williams, KO, and Early makes no sense to me. It is one thing if he were using those players consistently for 15+ minutes, but that is not the case. The dude needs to be in a front office, not the sidelines

can you cite one article or professional opinion that has come to the same conclusion that you have (and someone other than 1248 please)

Do you really want to go there???

if your up for it, yes.

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:There are a handful of bad coaches around the league, one of them is the HC of the Knicks

You think the team is underperforming after its playoff run last season and thought they'd be building off of that?
Or he is ruining the top rook after 20 games?
or his stellar all star back court is not in synch with its all star center?
or the reigning sixth man of the year is not producing off the bench?

Or you one of those starphuching fans who prefer we go after instant gratification changes and think "Oh jeeze, anyone can coach this badly!!!!" Too bad we can't get XXXXX or XXXXX.

The dude simply can't coach. He calls no plays, his sub patterns are terrible; he doesn't believe in continuity; and knows nothing about coaching defense. He is not even suited to coach a highschool basketball team from what I have seen the last 101 games. I was hoping that he would be better this season, but I am sorely disappointed.

Come back to us after you try watching or listening to some games.

And if you're going to include a rookie coaching year with a sub-NCAA Div III roster for most of last year, you really need to up your meds. You may have heard the news about that whole tanking for a high first round draft pick, haven't you?

Dude, I got NBALP because of the Knicks. I am heavily invested in this team; which is precisely why I am sick and tired of the masquerade Fisher is doing on the sidelines. I want to give the fool a chance, but he shows no desire to alter his egos. It is one thing if we did not have talents, but we do. Playing Sasha, Calderon, Seraphin, and Lou over Grant, Williams, KO, and Early makes no sense to me. It is one thing if he were using those players consistently for 15+ minutes, but that is not the case. The dude needs to be in a front office, not the sidelines

can you cite one article or professional opinion that has come to the same conclusion that you have (and someone other than 1248 please)

Do you really want to go there???

if your up for it, yes.

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/58415/20150609/new-york-knicks-rumors-derek-fisher-not-ready-for-head-coaching-job-says-robert-horry.htm

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:There are a handful of bad coaches around the league, one of them is the HC of the Knicks

You think the team is underperforming after its playoff run last season and thought they'd be building off of that?
Or he is ruining the top rook after 20 games?
or his stellar all star back court is not in synch with its all star center?
or the reigning sixth man of the year is not producing off the bench?

Or you one of those starphuching fans who prefer we go after instant gratification changes and think "Oh jeeze, anyone can coach this badly!!!!" Too bad we can't get XXXXX or XXXXX.

The dude simply can't coach. He calls no plays, his sub patterns are terrible; he doesn't believe in continuity; and knows nothing about coaching defense. He is not even suited to coach a highschool basketball team from what I have seen the last 101 games. I was hoping that he would be better this season, but I am sorely disappointed.

Come back to us after you try watching or listening to some games.

And if you're going to include a rookie coaching year with a sub-NCAA Div III roster for most of last year, you really need to up your meds. You may have heard the news about that whole tanking for a high first round draft pick, haven't you?

Dude, I got NBALP because of the Knicks. I am heavily invested in this team; which is precisely why I am sick and tired of the masquerade Fisher is doing on the sidelines. I want to give the fool a chance, but he shows no desire to alter his egos. It is one thing if we did not have talents, but we do. Playing Sasha, Calderon, Seraphin, and Lou over Grant, Williams, KO, and Early makes no sense to me. It is one thing if he were using those players consistently for 15+ minutes, but that is not the case. The dude needs to be in a front office, not the sidelines

can you cite one article or professional opinion that has come to the same conclusion that you have (and someone other than 1248 please)

Do you really want to go there???

if your up for it, yes.

Here is one for you. From A former teammate of his

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/58415/...

fixed url.

that was last season. Whatchya got from this year?

DJMUSIC wrote:
Slumping Knicks has few skilled youth players
Whom got my their impressive start.

However Dfish fails to adjust roles of team
Even in Carmelo's slump.

All in all DJ is pleased with NYK but ain't happy with Coach
Derick Fisher.

Yea we don't have a Dwade, PGeorge, Harden..
But look at how many teams don't have these guys
Either but you'd be surprised if belowb teams
Don't make playoffs... Nba east

Hornets, Bucks, Wiz, Celts, Pistons,
Magic, all not elite teams. But have making
Of being better than Knicks, my gripe on
Dfish ability is pointed towards my putrid putrid
Home record...

I ain't talking bout home record vs.the elite
Either, Cleve, Bills, Hawk's, Raptor
..etc.

Comes back to coaching coach and players play
And executes.

I feel strongly Dfish won't make it
As my coach to end of year, he solely needs
To finish with little better record than 2014/2015

However if you can't figure out how
To win home games you can and should win
Vs. Bottom tier Nba teams reinforced my idea
He, is clueless without more talent guys which
Phil has improved roster.

Still see possible 58-64 loss team in NY
Where rest of Nba is Improving, but
Coach do matter here in pro sports.

He ain't right guy here, especially
Since Dfish a former of can't figure
Out how to incorporate his younger pg
In games at end, which my can win some
Of those.

Grade F as a PG coach, adjusting to
Nba and NY finishing games.. Instead of
Letting few get away at the Garden.

I think 58-64 is a good record after 17-141...

jrodmc wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:There are a handful of bad coaches around the league, one of them is the HC of the Knicks

You think the team is underperforming after its playoff run last season and thought they'd be building off of that?
Or he is ruining the top rook after 20 games?
or his stellar all star back court is not in synch with its all star center?
or the reigning sixth man of the year is not producing off the bench?

Or you one of those starphuching fans who prefer we go after instant gratification changes and think "Oh jeeze, anyone can coach this badly!!!!" Too bad we can't get XXXXX or XXXXX.

The dude simply can't coach. He calls no plays, his sub patterns are terrible; he doesn't believe in continuity; and knows nothing about coaching defense. He is not even suited to coach a highschool basketball team from what I have seen the last 101 games. I was hoping that he would be better this season, but I am sorely disappointed.

Come back to us after you try watching or listening to some games.

And if you're going to include a rookie coaching year with a sub-NCAA Div III roster for most of last year, you really need to up your meds. You may have heard the news about that whole tanking for a high first round draft pick, haven't you?

Let me see, or you implying Nyk has a shot
For a pick? Nba draft ? Which one
Please clarify for good forum board

?

Let see nyk bro,has NO
Picks in NBA draft, hence so what is
Fisher doing eh? Please tell us

Or forgive me... If we do not know
Other than his Knicks getting their
As-sses whooped again by what 8-16
Milw.Bucks as usual..

arkrud wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:
Slumping Knicks has few skilled youth players
Whom got my their impressive start.

However Dfish fails to adjust roles of team
Even in Carmelo's slump.

All in all DJ is pleased with NYK but ain't happy with Coach
Derick Fisher.

Yea we don't have a Dwade, PGeorge, Harden..
But look at how many teams don't have these guys
Either but you'd be surprised if belowb teams
Don't make playoffs... Nba east

Hornets, Bucks, Wiz, Celts, Pistons,
Magic, all not elite teams. But have making
Of being better than Knicks, my gripe on
Dfish ability is pointed towards my putrid putrid
Home record...

I ain't talking bout home record vs.the elite
Either, Cleve, Bills, Hawk's, Raptor
..etc.

Comes back to coaching coach and players play
And executes.

I feel strongly Dfish won't make it
As my coach to end of year, he solely needs
To finish with little better record than 2014/2015

However if you can't figure out how
To win home games you can and should win
Vs. Bottom tier Nba teams reinforced my idea
He, is clueless without more talent guys which
Phil has improved roster.

Still see possible 58-64 loss team in NY
Where rest of Nba is Improving, but
Coach do matter here in pro sports.

He ain't right guy here, especially
Since Dfish a former of can't figure
Out how to incorporate his younger pg
In games at end, which my can win some
Of those.

Grade F as a PG coach, adjusting to
Nba and NY finishing games.. Instead of
Letting few get away at the Garden.

I think 58-64 is a good record after 17-141...

If that excites ya cause it's improvement over
Last year and throw in ny has NO,nba draft picks
For stealth effort of 24-58 great loser record,
God bless..Nyk fans of Dfisher.

Dude will be here until 2018 before nyk,build
Toward 41-41 record...

When you can't win much at home, and you
Don't improve much under head coach, we suffer.
We'll see!

DJMUSIC wrote:

arkrud wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:
Slumping Knicks has few skilled youth players
Whom got my their impressive start.

However Dfish fails to adjust roles of team
Even in Carmelo's slump.

All in all DJ is pleased with NYK but ain't happy with Coach
Derick Fisher.

Yea we don't have a Dwade, PGeorge, Harden..
But look at how many teams don't have these guys
Either but you'd be surprised if belowb teams
Don't make playoffs... Nba east

Hornets, Bucks, Wiz, Celts, Pistons,
Magic, all not elite teams. But have making
Of being better than Knicks, my gripe on
Dfish ability is pointed towards my putrid putrid
Home record...

I ain't talking bout home record vs.the elite
Either, Cleve, Bills, Hawk's, Raptor
..etc.

Comes back to coaching coach and players play
And executes.

I feel strongly Dfish won't make it
As my coach to end of year, he solely needs
To finish with little better record than 2014/2015

However if you can't figure out how
To win home games you can and should win
Vs. Bottom tier Nba teams reinforced my idea
He, is clueless without more talent guys which
Phil has improved roster.

Still see possible 58-64 loss team in NY
Where rest of Nba is Improving, but
Coach do matter here in pro sports.

He ain't right guy here, especially
Since Dfish a former of can't figure
Out how to incorporate his younger pg
In games at end, which my can win some
Of those.

Grade F as a PG coach, adjusting to
Nba and NY finishing games.. Instead of
Letting few get away at the Garden.

I think 58-64 is a good record after 17-141...

That is,58 losses hombre, 64 worst case
Or Nyk best 24-58 record for 2015/16 Nba season

If that excites ya cause it's improvement over
Last year and throw in ny has NO,nba draft picks
For stealth effort of 24-58 great loser record,
God bless..Nyk fans of Dfisher.

Dude will be here until 2018 before nyk,build
Toward 41-41 record...

When you can't win much at home, and you
Don't improve much under head coach, we suffer.
We'll see!

We are 10-11 so 30-35 wins are more likely with 40 a possibility.
Will you consider this an acceptable improvement for 2nd year coach?

arkrud wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:

arkrud wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:
Slumping Knicks has few skilled youth players
Whom got my their impressive start.

However Dfish fails to adjust roles of team
Even in Carmelo's slump.

All in all DJ is pleased with NYK but ain't happy with Coach
Derick Fisher.

Yea we don't have a Dwade, PGeorge, Harden..
But look at how many teams don't have these guys
Either but you'd be surprised if belowb teams
Don't make playoffs... Nba east

Hornets, Bucks, Wiz, Celts, Pistons,
Magic, all not elite teams. But have making
Of being better than Knicks, my gripe on
Dfish ability is pointed towards my putrid putrid
Home record...

I ain't talking bout home record vs.the elite
Either, Cleve, Bills, Hawk's, Raptor
..etc.

Comes back to coaching coach and players play
And executes.

I feel strongly Dfish won't make it
As my coach to end of year, he solely needs
To finish with little better record than 2014/2015

However if you can't figure out how
To win home games you can and should win
Vs. Bottom tier Nba teams reinforced my idea
He, is clueless without more talent guys which
Phil has improved roster.

Still see possible 58-64 loss team in NY
Where rest of Nba is Improving, but
Coach do matter here in pro sports.

He ain't right guy here, especially
Since Dfish a former of can't figure
Out how to incorporate his younger pg
In games at end, which my can win some
Of those.

Grade F as a PG coach, adjusting to
Nba and NY finishing games.. Instead of
Letting few get away at the Garden.

I think 58-64 is a good record after 17-141...

That is,58 losses hombre, 64 worst case
Or Nyk best 24-58 record for 2015/16 Nba season

If that excites ya cause it's improvement over
Last year and throw in ny has NO,nba draft picks
For stealth effort of 24-58 great loser record,
God bless..Nyk fans of Dfisher.

Dude will be here until 2018 before nyk,build
Toward 41-41 record...

When you can't win much at home, and you
Don't improve much under head coach, we suffer.
We'll see!

We are 10-11 so 30-35 wins are more likely with 40 a possibility.
Will you consider this an acceptable improvement for 2nd year coach?

nope that's not good enough, in fact i would consider really replacing fisher if we can't make the playoffs. With a significant upgrade in talent, a healthy squad, players who want to win and love being here, and a solid defense roster. What?? he needs 3 super starts to make a 8th seed.

You have the talent, make the sht work. Capitalize on your teams talent, instead putting them in a position to fail.

knicks1248 wrote:

arkrud wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:

arkrud wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:
Slumping Knicks has few skilled youth players
Whom got my their impressive start.

However Dfish fails to adjust roles of team
Even in Carmelo's slump.

All in all DJ is pleased with NYK but ain't happy with Coach
Derick Fisher.

Yea we don't have a Dwade, PGeorge, Harden..
But look at how many teams don't have these guys
Either but you'd be surprised if belowb teams
Don't make playoffs... Nba east

Hornets, Bucks, Wiz, Celts, Pistons,
Magic, all not elite teams. But have making
Of being better than Knicks, my gripe on
Dfish ability is pointed towards my putrid putrid
Home record...

I ain't talking bout home record vs.the elite
Either, Cleve, Bills, Hawk's, Raptor
..etc.

Comes back to coaching coach and players play
And executes.

I feel strongly Dfish won't make it
As my coach to end of year, he solely needs
To finish with little better record than 2014/2015

However if you can't figure out how
To win home games you can and should win
Vs. Bottom tier Nba teams reinforced my idea
He, is clueless without more talent guys which
Phil has improved roster.

Still see possible 58-64 loss team in NY
Where rest of Nba is Improving, but
Coach do matter here in pro sports.

He ain't right guy here, especially
Since Dfish a former of can't figure
Out how to incorporate his younger pg
In games at end, which my can win some
Of those.

Grade F as a PG coach, adjusting to
Nba and NY finishing games.. Instead of
Letting few get away at the Garden.

I think 58-64 is a good record after 17-141...

That is,58 losses hombre, 64 worst case
Or Nyk best 24-58 record for 2015/16 Nba season

If that excites ya cause it's improvement over
Last year and throw in ny has NO,nba draft picks
For stealth effort of 24-58 great loser record,
God bless..Nyk fans of Dfisher.

Dude will be here until 2018 before nyk,build
Toward 41-41 record...

When you can't win much at home, and you
Don't improve much under head coach, we suffer.
We'll see!

We are 10-11 so 30-35 wins are more likely with 40 a possibility.
Will you consider this an acceptable improvement for 2nd year coach?

nope that's not good enough, in fact i would consider really replacing fisher if we can't make the playoffs. With a significant upgrade in talent, a healthy squad, players who want to win and love being here, and a solid defense roster. What?? he needs 3 super starts to make a 8th seed.

You have the talent, make the sht work. Capitalize on your teams talent, instead putting them in a position to fail.

Connecting the dots. Significant upgrade? Its a decent team. If the rookie progresses nice, gotta give coach some credit. Yeah, you do. Healthy? we don't know yet. "Love being here"......are youfreaking kidding me? That is comical. Your gullible bro. They all love being in their cities they get paid to be in. Until they are not.

Solid defense? They like born with that or are they coached? Who do you want to coach that you are so sure of and is available??? I mean seriously you are in some sort of fairy tale thinking "Change" equates to "improvement" when its just a concept.