Knicks · How about Kyle Oquinn and Derrick Williams to Phoenix (page 2)

BRIGGS @ 12/9/2015 3:03 PM
meloanyk wrote:Like Affalo but 4 yrs seems too long at this stage of career. He appears to still have game and likely opts and gets raise but prefer to limit extension two yrs if possible. Dont see Jax going beyond since there should be some options

If we are bad at the deadline--we can also potentially look into trading Affalo for a number 1 and a number 2. We have some different possibilities

martin @ 12/9/2015 3:03 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Character counts to Phil and this squad gets along despite several competing for minutes. Oquinn will eventually get his chance to show his wares here and I think he will be productive. Seraphin is FA at year end, maybe he gets shopped down the line instead. Not crazy about Williams overall game but last thing we need to do is give away someone who can score on second unit for a potential malcontent. Bench could have used Schved

I wrote this post as an example of what we can potentially do. Id like to see some of the complimentary players changed. This particular trade youd get an athletic and offensive upgrade. Im sure we can go around to 15 teams and look at what is what etc.. but I think this teams needs this. There will be no change in our play as is.


Agree with surveying the landscape as this is nowhere a finished product that can contend. Think Phil did well beyond drafting KP and Grant (hopefuly) , but primarily by unloading more than adding, most additions (not including draft picks) are decent complements as you say but none are pillars. With the benefit of hindsight, he could have added some firepower to bench perhaps a Thornton but do like that Phil has given us flexibilty to make changes however slow and frustrating that may be

In sports I hate giving up seasons. While NO oNE is interested in panic moves--if Im swapping $-$ if I think I can improve the team I would do it. Id like to sign Affalo to a 4 yr extension after this season---but Id rather move Melo Oquinn and Williams out for new complimentary parts/draft picks etc..

KOQ and Williams have looked good at times. Why you giving up on them so quick?

BRIGGS @ 12/9/2015 3:05 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
meloanyk wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Character counts to Phil and this squad gets along despite several competing for minutes. Oquinn will eventually get his chance to show his wares here and I think he will be productive. Seraphin is FA at year end, maybe he gets shopped down the line instead. Not crazy about Williams overall game but last thing we need to do is give away someone who can score on second unit for a potential malcontent. Bench could have used Schved

I wrote this post as an example of what we can potentially do. Id like to see some of the complimentary players changed. This particular trade youd get an athletic and offensive upgrade. Im sure we can go around to 15 teams and look at what is what etc.. but I think this teams needs this. There will be no change in our play as is.


Agree with surveying the landscape as this is nowhere a finished product that can contend. Think Phil did well beyond drafting KP and Grant (hopefuly) , but primarily by unloading more than adding, most additions (not including draft picks) are decent complements as you say but none are pillars. With the benefit of hindsight, he could have added some firepower to bench perhaps a Thornton but do like that Phil has given us flexibilty to make changes however slow and frustrating that may be

In sports I hate giving up seasons. While NO oNE is interested in panic moves--if Im swapping $-$ if I think I can improve the team I would do it. Id like to sign Affalo to a 4 yr extension after this season---but Id rather move Melo Oquinn and Williams out for new complimentary parts/draft picks etc..

KOQ and Williams have looked good at times. Why you giving up on them so quick?


Martin--not me--Derek Fischer.
Paris907 @ 12/9/2015 9:03 PM
OQuinn appears to be in Fishers dog house. Seraphin has some presence Down low and can score. If the Knicks had a 8 man rotation, would OQ and Wilkiams both be a part? What about Early? It appears that Thomas has earned his way into the rotation. If Calderon is either expendable or not likely in rotation next year, why isn't Early getting some light.
blkexec @ 12/9/2015 10:41 PM
How about we play KOQ and D.Will more often? Thats also a good strategy, as you see in this game against Utah.

I think the knicks play better without Melo, because they can play as a team......And thats this teams strength. Team ball.....

clyderules @ 12/9/2015 10:58 PM
blkexec wrote:How about we play KOQ and D.Will more often? Thats also a good strategy, as you see in this game against Utah.

I think the knicks play better without Melo, because they can play as a team......And thats this teams strength. Team ball.....

This!

BRIGGS @ 12/9/2015 11:21 PM
blkexec wrote:How about we play KOQ and D.Will more often? Thats also a good strategy, as you see in this game against Utah.

I think the knicks play better without Melo, because they can play as a team......And thats this teams strength. Team ball.....

Well Lopez scks but we cant make Derek Fischer play anyone.

Knicks1969 @ 12/9/2015 11:35 PM
blkexec wrote:How about we play KOQ and D.Will more often? Thats also a good strategy, as you see in this game against Utah.

I think the knicks play better without Melo, because they can play as a team......And thats this teams strength. Team ball.....

KO needs to replace Lopez in the starting lineup. We need constant energy and a mic on the floor to instruct defensive assignments. He is the one and only enforcer we have on the roster. I have been calling for this dude to play a big role since the beginning of the season

wargames @ 12/10/2015 12:19 AM
I think the suns want a pick for Moris. On the low they've been on a hot streak of raping teams for picks for less than stellar guys or guys who were about to leave. So I don't see this trade happening but I am pretty sure the knicks are going to make some moves soon.
Nalod @ 12/10/2015 8:10 AM
Seems to me fish is benching whoever he wants to regardless of it being Phil's free agent guys.

I can't imagine PHX being excited to get these two unless they see them as good fits and Morris is really a problem for them.

jrodmc @ 12/10/2015 10:24 AM
Just don't mention bringing FluChicken back here, no matter what they send back!

And Phoenix isn't bad enough to even care about their 1st rounders.

Nalod @ 12/10/2015 10:30 AM
jrodmc wrote:Just don't mention bringing FluChicken back here, no matter what they send back!

And Phoenix isn't bad enough to even care about their 1st rounders.

I think they are stockpiling others.

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