Knicks · Why on earth does fisher continue to play sasha (page 1)

knicks1248 @ 1/19/2016 1:48 PM
Kid you not, the minute he was put into the game, i knew it was all over. I turned to my pops with a 18 point lead and said, watch the lead dissappears quicker than you can say sasha.

He does nothing well at all, he doesn't even do anything good. He has zero chemistry with anyone on the court, and our chemistry as a team tumbles down to nothing.

You really dont see it in the numbers but trust me, he is so bad, that i went through every game hes played this season, and we have like a .356 winning % when he gets anykind of minutes.

The fact that its taking away grants develolment makes me even more pissed off with fisher and his staff. Especially when he states he played him so he wouldnt get rusty. WTF, is he part of the future, who gives a sht weather he's rusty or oiled up, he sucks, sucks sucks.

He maybe a great teammate, but that's where the buck stops. How could he be called a sniper shooting like 19% from Downtown

Knixkik @ 1/19/2016 1:50 PM
He has a soft spot for him, being his former teammate. That's the main reason, i believe.
SwishAndDish13 @ 1/19/2016 1:52 PM
He saw him play the last 60 seconds in Lakers wins as a FT specialist and was inspired.
Cartman718 @ 1/19/2016 1:52 PM
Sasha can get hot in a hurry. It's a gamble when our bench is not shooting well at all. that's the only reason.
Rookie @ 1/19/2016 1:58 PM
hahaha

When I saw the line up Fish put in

Jose
Sasha
Thomas
Williams
O'Quin

I had the same reaction, there goes the lead, but it was more a total combination of the players he had in then just Sasha. Here's a group that is going to have trouble defending and scoring....even with a 16 point lead you could see where this was going. So then I would expect Fish to call time outs and slow the momentum of the 76'ers, nope. I really had to stop and tell myself, ok I'm not going to freak out here, then the lead was gone...poof!

Was not happy about Fisher almost blowing that game.

blkexec @ 1/19/2016 2:08 PM
Sasha and Jose should never be on the floor together.

KOQ is an undersized center and too slow for PF
Jose is too slow as a PG and too small as a SG
Sasha is a tweener at SG who currently can't shoot
DWill is a tweener between SF and PF

Fisher should never have too many tweeners on the floor at one time.

knicks1248 @ 1/19/2016 3:32 PM
blkexec wrote:Sasha and Jose should never be on the floor together.

KOQ is an undersized center and too slow for PF
Jose is too slow as a PG and too small as a SG
Sasha is a tweener at SG who currently can't shoot
DWill is a tweener between SF and PF

Fisher should never have too many tweeners on the floor at one time.

jose is not slow, just doesn't have a quick first step or lateral quickness, but he beats everyone of his teammates down the court on the offensive end

blkexec @ 1/19/2016 3:59 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
blkexec wrote:Sasha and Jose should never be on the floor together.

KOQ is an undersized center and too slow for PF
Jose is too slow as a PG and too small as a SG
Sasha is a tweener at SG who currently can't shoot
DWill is a tweener between SF and PF

Fisher should never have too many tweeners on the floor at one time.

jose is not slow, just doesn't have a quick first step or lateral quickness, but he beats everyone of his teammates down the court on the offensive end

GustavBahler @ 1/19/2016 4:12 PM
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
blkexec wrote:Sasha and Jose should never be on the floor together.

KOQ is an undersized center and too slow for PF
Jose is too slow as a PG and too small as a SG
Sasha is a tweener at SG who currently can't shoot
DWill is a tweener between SF and PF

Fisher should never have too many tweeners on the floor at one time.

jose is not slow, just doesn't have a quick first step or lateral quickness, but he beats everyone of his teammates down the court on the offensive end

Bet Prigioni held the crown when he started for the Knicks. I like the heart Calderon has shown lately, even has driven to the rim a little more, but the lack of a complete PG (or close) has been a long running nightmare I hope Phil can address in the offseason. Grant looks like he is another season away right now.

Nalod @ 1/19/2016 4:21 PM
Rookie wrote:hahaha

When I saw the line up Fish put in

Jose
Sasha
Thomas
Williams
O'Quin

I had the same reaction, there goes the lead, but it was more a total combination of the players he had in then just Sasha. Here's a group that is going to have trouble defending and scoring....even with a 16 point lead you could see where this was going. So then I would expect Fish to call time outs and slow the momentum of the 76'ers, nope. I really had to stop and tell myself, ok I'm not going to freak out here, then the lead was gone...poof!

Was not happy about Fisher almost blowing that game.

Remember the first few games when that unit outplayed the starters?

Soft spot for ex teammate, maybe he got eyes on Sasha's girl as well??

Knicks1969 @ 1/19/2016 4:57 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
blkexec wrote:Sasha and Jose should never be on the floor together.

KOQ is an undersized center and too slow for PF
Jose is too slow as a PG and too small as a SG
Sasha is a tweener at SG who currently can't shoot
DWill is a tweener between SF and PF

Fisher should never have too many tweeners on the floor at one time.

jose is not slow, just doesn't have a quick first step or lateral quickness, but he beats everyone of his teammates down the court on the offensive end

Last night Jose appeared to have consumed some strong coffee. He was quicker, but that is the first game he looked fast for the last 3 years

Rookie @ 1/20/2016 11:30 AM
Nalod wrote:
Rookie wrote:hahaha

When I saw the line up Fish put in

Jose
Sasha
Thomas
Williams
O'Quin

I had the same reaction, there goes the lead, but it was more a total combination of the players he had in then just Sasha. Here's a group that is going to have trouble defending and scoring....even with a 16 point lead you could see where this was going. So then I would expect Fish to call time outs and slow the momentum of the 76'ers, nope. I really had to stop and tell myself, ok I'm not going to freak out here, then the lead was gone...poof!

Was not happy about Fisher almost blowing that game.

Remember the first few games when that unit outplayed the starters?

Soft spot for ex teammate, maybe he got eyes on Sasha's girl as well??

Just in case we forgot:

"New York, on the other hand, is getting close to nothing out of its backcourt, and part of the blame has been placed on its starting guards for losing each home game and falling into a three-game losing streak despite starting the season 2-1.

Through six games, Calderon has averaged only 3.8 points on 25 percent shooting from both the field and three, along with 2.8 assists per game.

New York is -5.8 with its starting floor general on the court, and opponents are shooting 51 percent from the field when guarded by the Spanish point guard.

In New York's 99-92 loss to Milwaukee on Friday, the Bucks attacked Calderon in its first two possessions with consecutive pick-and-pop plays that led to back-to-back Greg Monroe mid-range jumpers.

Sasha Vujacic hasn't been much better on either side of the ball.

Once heralded for his streak shooting abilities, Vujacic has lost his touch, averaging 5.7 points on only 30.7 percent from the field and 18.2 percent from three.

His shots haven't been good decisions nor good misses. Vujacic has air-balled, clanked or hit only backboard on several of his shots, and his shot selection leaves much to be desired. New York is -2.7 with its starting shooting guard on the court.

Defensively, opponents shoot 48.9 percent when guarded by Vujacic. Combined with Calderon, New York's starting backcourt boasts the second-worst defensive field goal percentage to only Sacramento's Rajon Rondo and Ben McLemore."

Knicks1969 @ 1/20/2016 11:45 AM
It is truly safe to say that we can now rid ourselves of Vujacic and Seraphin. I believe we can do better by giving those two spots to D Leaguers who are young and hungry to make a mark in the NBA. There might be a Whiteside or Jonathan Simmons out there. I am still baffled by Phil not at least experimenting with the 10 day contracts. I thought he would at least offer a contract to fredette or Toure ,
knicks1248 @ 1/20/2016 1:16 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:It is truly safe to say that we can now rid ourselves of Vujacic and Seraphin. I believe we can do better by giving those two spots to D Leaguers who are young and hungry to make a mark in the NBA. There might be a Whiteside or Jonathan Simmons out there. I am still baffled by Phil not at least experimenting with the 10 day contracts.I thought he would at least offer a contract to fredette or Toure ,

those guys suck to, at least calderon can shoot rather well

Knicks1969 @ 1/20/2016 1:21 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:It is truly safe to say that we can now rid ourselves of Vujacic and Seraphin. I believe we can do better by giving those two spots to D Leaguers who are young and hungry to make a mark in the NBA. There might be a Whiteside or Jonathan Simmons out there. I am still baffled by Phil not at least experimenting with the 10 day contracts.I thought he would at least offer a contract to fredette or Toure ,

those guys suck to, at least calderon can shoot rather well

How many points does he concede to the opposing PGs? What is his scoring average this season???

nyk4ever @ 1/20/2016 1:56 PM
in the last 10 games, sasha has played a total of 16 minutes. does this really qualify as "continuing to play" him?
mreinman @ 1/20/2016 2:38 PM
nyk4ever wrote:in the last 10 games, sasha has played a total of 16 minutes. does this really qualify as "continuing to play" him?

that was 16 minutes too much.

knicks1248 @ 1/20/2016 5:02 PM
nyk4ever wrote:in the last 10 games, sasha has played a total of 16 minutes. does this really qualify as "continuing to play" him?

we normally lose when he plays a second

knicks1248 @ 1/20/2016 5:04 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:It is truly safe to say that we can now rid ourselves of Vujacic and Seraphin. I believe we can do better by giving those two spots to D Leaguers who are young and hungry to make a mark in the NBA. There might be a Whiteside or Jonathan Simmons out there. I am still baffled by Phil not at least experimenting with the 10 day contracts.I thought he would at least offer a contract to fredette or Toure ,

those guys suck to, at least calderon can shoot rather well

How many points does he concede to the opposing PGs? What is his scoring average this season???


the same guards that are scoring on him, are scoring on everyone they face. there hasn't been one single pg to play the knicks and have a season high

TeamBall @ 1/20/2016 5:09 PM
Nalod wrote:
Rookie wrote:hahaha

When I saw the line up Fish put in

Jose
Sasha
Thomas
Williams
O'Quin

I had the same reaction, there goes the lead, but it was more a total combination of the players he had in then just Sasha. Here's a group that is going to have trouble defending and scoring....even with a 16 point lead you could see where this was going. So then I would expect Fish to call time outs and slow the momentum of the 76'ers, nope. I really had to stop and tell myself, ok I'm not going to freak out here, then the lead was gone...poof!

Was not happy about Fisher almost blowing that game.

Remember the first few games when that unit outplayed the starters?

Soft spot for ex teammate, maybe he got eyes on Sasha's girl as well??


Was it that lineup? I could've sworn it was the Grant-Galloway backcourt lineup
GustavBahler @ 1/20/2016 5:11 PM
It wasnt so much subbing Sasha as it was an indication that Fisher was taking his foot off the gas. Almost cost us the game.
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