Knicks · OT: Cleveland fires coach Blatt (page 2)

So the coach with the worst record in the EAST gets a contract extension, and the coach with the best record in the EAST gets FIRED..SMH..Only in the NBA..Where the players and agents run things

so i am not sure if you guys noticed this...but during the warriors cavs game...throughout the 4th quarter lebron was in tyronn lue's ear. i even alluded to it in another thread saying mj and kobe would have never lost by 40 on their home court. i guess ty lue took lebron's displeasure to upper mgmt and next thing you know blatt is fired. yeah lebron you can say "you were informed of the decision" hahaha

anyone see Blatt last night when he was interviewed about hacking Jordan?

He said the current rule stinks and he hopes it changes (i.e. to a rule that grants a FS and the ball for a hack -- ala European rules which call it unsportsmanlike) but then he did it anyway in two separate stints

Was not good for PR. Also imagine Lebron must have been thinking this is embarrassing, "is this what we have to do to win?"

I wasn't impressed by him but feel bad for him too

GustavBahler wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said he might be in danger a few weeks back and someone said no way, no chance.

But this isn't surprising. Their scheme wastes Kevin Love and doesn't take advantage of Kyrie's pressence enough.

Also, I watched some of the LAC/CLE game last night and Blatt kept looking to Tyronne Lue and asking him what to do, which I thought was strange.

I bet they name Lue head coach, at least for the rest of the year.

Bet you are right about Lue. From afar it looks like Lue has been bailing Blatt out since he became coach. Impressive credentials coming in, looked like a bad combination of having a contender thrust upon him instead of the rebuilding job Blatt thought he would be working on, and a lack of experience. Seemed out of his element from the start.

Blatt was an experienced coach overseas, but never had to deal with someone like James. My gut feeling is that Lebron, from the start, was unwilling to play the kind of offense Blatt wanted to install...and there was no way Blatt was going to win that battle.

If I remember correctly, I think James had issues with Spolestra at first, but in that situation the coach was backed by Riley's rings and Wade, another superstar, who had already taken Miami to a title.

James want Love...the Cavs make the trade.

James wants the Cavs to overpay blue collar guys like Thompson and Shump with limited, but important, skills who don't get into Lebron's way on offense...the Cavs sign them.

James is tired, and wants to take himself out...he does it without permission.

Shumpert probably hurts himself doing some show-off stuff before the season and is out for the first part of the season...must be Blatt's fault.

Irving unable to start for most of the season...Mosgov not the same player since his operation- got to find someone to blame this stuff on.

Blatt was going to be hired by Kerr in GS as his offensive guru, I think, but James and the Cavs seem unable to run a sophisticated offense, and frequently revert to 1/1 ball.

Look at the Knicks and how it should be done. Got to give Phil, Fish, and Anthony credit for not putting the team through the same stuff the Cavs are going through.

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That is awesome. I was just talking to a buddy about this and he mentioned Iverson/Lue.

crzymdups wrote:there's no chance this is true.

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What???!!!

About as much of a chance that James was involved in getting Blatt fired as there is that a river can catch fire...

Oh geez...forgot:

Knicks1969 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said he might be in danger a few weeks back and someone said no way, no chance.

But this isn't surprising. Their scheme wastes Kevin Love and doesn't take advantage of Kyrie's pressence enough.

Also, I watched some of the LAC/CLE game last night and Blatt kept looking to Tyronne Lue and asking him what to do, which I thought was strange.

I bet they name Lue head coach, at least for the rest of the year.

You were right! What the heck!? How do you know all this?! Will we make the playoffs? Will we upgrade the PG slot before the season is through?

Lue is Lebron's pick

When the Cavs were struggling during the first half last year Lue was rumored as a candidate to replace Lue. I don't think Blatt was a good fit. I believe I read or heard that Blatt expected guys to treat him with tremendous respect based on his international success and this rubbed some players the wrong way. That was last summer.

WaltLongmire wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said he might be in danger a few weeks back and someone said no way, no chance.

But this isn't surprising. Their scheme wastes Kevin Love and doesn't take advantage of Kyrie's pressence enough.

Also, I watched some of the LAC/CLE game last night and Blatt kept looking to Tyronne Lue and asking him what to do, which I thought was strange.

I bet they name Lue head coach, at least for the rest of the year.

Bet you are right about Lue. From afar it looks like Lue has been bailing Blatt out since he became coach. Impressive credentials coming in, looked like a bad combination of having a contender thrust upon him instead of the rebuilding job Blatt thought he would be working on, and a lack of experience. Seemed out of his element from the start.

Blatt was an experienced coach overseas, but never had to deal with someone like James. My gut feeling is that Lebron, from the start, was unwilling to play the kind of offense Blatt wanted to install...and there was no way Blatt was going to win that battle.

If I remember correctly, I think James had issues with Spolestra at first, but in that situation the coach was backed by Riley's rings and Wade, another superstar, who had already taken Miami to a title.

James want Love...the Cavs make the trade.

James wants the Cavs to overpay blue collar guys like Thompson and Shump with limited, but important, skills who don't get into Lebron's way on offense...the Cavs sign them.

James is tired, and wants to take himself out...he does it without permission.

Shumpert probably hurts himself doing some show-off stuff before the season and is out for the first part of the season...must be Blatt's fault.

Irving unable to start for most of the season...Mosgov not the same player since his operation- got to find someone to blame this stuff on.

Blatt was going to be hired by Kerr in GS as his offensive guru, I think, but James and the Cavs seem unable to run a sophisticated offense, and frequently revert to 1/1 ball.

Look at the Knicks and how it should be done. Got to give Phil, Fish, and Anthony credit for not putting the team through the same stuff the Cavs are going through.

Just heard that Blatt was .500 vs teams with .600 or better record this year. I have no doubt that LeBron was a handful, thats why I mentioned Blatt having a contender thrust upon him.

If Blatt had the time to learn the NBA game while the team was rebuilding, I believe over time he would have been successful. Blatt admitted that he was getting used to the length of the NBA game, had problem with rotations because of it. On a rebuilding team its not a big deal, on a contender, it is.

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martin wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--ca...

The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired coach David Blatt, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Ty Lue, Blatt's top assistant, has agreed to a multiyear deal to become the team's new head coach, sources told Yahoo.

Blatt's dismissal comes one season after he helped guide the Cavs to the 2015 NBA Finals in his first year as an NBA coach. Cleveland leads the Eastern Conference with a 30-11 record and has won 11 of its past 13 games. The two losses came against the San Antonio Spurs and Golden State Warriors, who beat the Cavs by 34 points on Monday.

LOL LeBron didn't like him

Exactly

He was "dead man walking" the minute he was hired. The CAVS needed a strong veteran NBA coach that would be able to demand his players respect.
Hopefully T.Lue would be able to manage these egos.

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--ca...

The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired coach David Blatt, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Ty Lue, Blatt's top assistant, has agreed to a multiyear deal to become the team's new head coach, sources told Yahoo.

Blatt's dismissal comes one season after he helped guide the Cavs to the 2015 NBA Finals in his first year as an NBA coach. Cleveland leads the Eastern Conference with a 30-11 record and has won 11 of its past 13 games. The two losses came against the San Antonio Spurs and Golden State Warriors, who beat the Cavs by 34 points on Monday.

LOL LeBron didn't like him

Exactly

He was "dead man walking" the minute he was hired. The CAVS needed a strong veteran NBA coach that would be able to demand his players respect.
Hopefully T.Lue would be able to manage these egos.

ESPN just read quotes from Brendan Haywood talking about Lue pointing out when LBJ missed defensive assignments during film sessions. Haywood said this in part earned the other players respect.

Knicks1969 wrote:That is The LeBron effect:::))))) And you all still want to hang on to an unproven Fisher????? Lmfao

Your hate for Fisher is exhausting but it's funny how you find a way to hate on him in every thread even when the thread isn't about him.

Solace wrote:WTF. I feel bad for Coach Blatt. From what I hear, he's an awesome coach but LeBron sabotaged him.

You heard he was an awesome coach where?? In europe cause he has no head coaching experience in the NBA besides his time with the Cavs.

knicks1248 wrote:SMH..Only in the NBA..Where the players and agents run things

Except on the Knicks.

Another virtue of Triangle Culture: you don't get nonsense like this that makes everyone's life miserable.

I couldn't follow any non-Triangle team. Never have . . . never will. It's too chaotic and brutal and painful.

"In Phil We Trust".

CrushAlot wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said he might be in danger a few weeks back and someone said no way, no chance.

But this isn't surprising. Their scheme wastes Kevin Love and doesn't take advantage of Kyrie's pressence enough.

Also, I watched some of the LAC/CLE game last night and Blatt kept looking to Tyronne Lue and asking him what to do, which I thought was strange.

I bet they name Lue head coach, at least for the rest of the year.

You were right! What the heck!? How do you know all this?! Will we make the playoffs? Will we upgrade the PG slot before the season is through?

Lue is Lebron's pick

When the Cavs were struggling during the first half last year Lue was rumored as a candidate to replace Lue. I don't think Blatt was a good fit. I believe I read or heard that Blatt expected guys to treat him with tremendous respect based on his international success and this rubbed some players the wrong way. That was last summer.

So Lue was a candidate to replace Lue??? So there's a twin?? lol

lebron should ask ownership to hire him as president, gm, and coach. give him what he wants and he will the hard way.

What is wrong with that? They play real basketball in Europe. KP's easy adjustment is only due to the fact that NBA's ball is a primitive selfish kind of basketball. It is way easier for him to excel in NBA.

newyorker4ever wrote:

Solace wrote:WTF. I feel bad for Coach Blatt. From what I hear, he's an awesome coach but LeBron sabotaged him.

You heard he was an awesome coach where?? In europe cause he has no head coaching experience in the NBA besides his time with the Cavs.

i expect the cavs to unravel from here on out. i can see them dropping to the middle of the pack. tyron lue as the titular head coach. does anybody get the feeling that chaos and underachievement are in the cavs' future?

whatever.

it'd be great if the knicks continue to gel to the point where they could end up facing the cavs in the first round.

teamsport72 wrote:What is wrong with that? They play real basketball in Europe. KP's easy adjustment is only due to the fact that NBA's ball is a primitive selfish kind of basketball. It is way easier for him to excel in NBA.

newyorker4ever wrote:

Solace wrote:WTF. I feel bad for Coach Blatt. From what I hear, he's an awesome coach but LeBron sabotaged him.

You heard he was an awesome coach where?? In europe cause he has no head coaching experience in the NBA besides his time with the Cavs.

Blatt was very accomplished before he was hired by the cavs.

In his 21 years of coaching professionally, David Blatt has won 17 championships in various leagues and tournaments, most recently leading Maccabi Tel Aviv to a Euroleague championship in May; he is simply one of the great winners in basketball today.

Can You Put Those Accomplishments in Perspective? Sure. How’s this: Blatt has won a EuroBasket title (2007), a Euroleague title (2014), and an Olympic medal (bronze, 2012). There are only five other head coaches in basketball history who have hit that trifecta.

What Do Players Think of Him? Let’s take the word of Andrei Kirilenko, one of the best Russian basketball players ever, if not the best. Kirilenko has said in the past that he thinks Blatt is a better coach than Phil Jackson.

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I love how Lebron tries to distance himself from all these types of decisions. He had no idea Blatt was gonna get fired for his friend! No idea Wiggins was gonna get traded for Love! No idea at all! He just reports to work and scores buckets.

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The Cleveland Cavaliers GM David Griffin held a press conference at Cleveland Clinic Courts explaining his reasons for the firing of Cavs head coach David Blatt. John Kuntz, cleveland.com
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on January 22, 2016 at 9:25 PM, updated January 22, 2016 at 9:37 PM

INDEPENDENCE, Ohio – Player accountability, mismanaging, a building frustration and the absence of hope led to David Blatt's ouster as head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Despite a 30-11 record, the defending Eastern Conference champs lost belief.

A team that loses faith in the leader on the sidelines is destined to eventually fail. But management recognized it and was forced to make the jaw-dropping decision that ended Blatt's tenure with the organization after an 83-40 record in one and a half seasons.

The record doesn't illustrate the turmoil and animosity that went on behind the scenes and how it ultimately led to Tyronn Lue becoming head coach. It all stemmed from issues from last year which were never quite resolved.

During the first portion of the 2014-15 season, film sessions were a topic of discussion among the players. Blatt was reluctant to criticize star players even when they clearly messed up a play. This became routine. It got so bad that I'm told that Lue finally intervened, stood up and demanded that somebody rewind the footage so that he could get on members of The Big 3.

During team scrimmages, players competed aggressively but bit their tongues as Blatt frequently blew his whistle to call ticky-tack or phantom fouls for his go-to players. One player said sometimes Blatt didn't even have a whistle and would yell at the top of his lungs to stop play and call a foul if one of his stars acted as if he was hit.

It was viewed as a blatant attempt to get in the good graces of his top talent. Blatt's leadership was in question. Players grew tired of this treatment. The locker room started resenting Blatt's handling, or lack thereof, when it came to dealing with his stars.

Word circulated to cleveland.com that Blatt had trouble drawing up plays out of timeouts. He would freeze up and waste precious seconds, one player said. He would even draw up plays for players who weren't in the game, another player said.

In the closeout game of the Eastern Conference Finals, a game the Cavaliers trounced the Atlanta Hawks by 30 to sweep the series; Blatt had signaled for Tristan Thompson to reenter in the closing minutes with the game already wrapped up. This was when Thompson was the team's most valuable big man with Kevin Love out of commission with a dislocated shoulder.

The bench couldn't believe it. They were shocked, as was Thompson, who never questions authority. LeBron James told Blatt to put somebody else in the game, out of concern a key cog might get hurt before The Finals, a league source said. Kendrick Perkins got the nod, and a few minutes later, Brendan Haywood's number was called to finish it out.

This season, Blatt almost didn't make it past 2015. The 29-point road trouncing at the hands of the Damian Lillard-less Portland Trail Blazers on Dec. 26 was close to being his next-to-last game. If it wasn't for a unimpressive win over Phoenix two days later, Blatt would have been shown the door the following morning, cleveland.com has learned.

Lue's connection with the players is rock solid, with a reputation for understanding how to manage personalities. He has played with two of the league's biggest personalities -- Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant -- and he's been coached by some of the greats.

Blatt didn't have the necessary relationship with his guys to get players to buy in. Lue is expected to hold players accountable. He's not afraid to give James a piece of his mind. Players from 1 down to 15 will be held responsible.

But this predicament wasn't Blatt's fault. He didn't sign up for this roster. He was brought in to be a teacher and help mold a young Kyrie Irving, a younger Andrew Wiggins and a young, fiery Dion Waiters. He had to adjust on the fly while coaching one of the most talented rosters in the league.

His accomplishments while at the helm shouldn't go unappreciated. He allowed his coaching staff to have bigger roles than what most head coaches would permit. He understood the learning curve he faced and trusted his staff to help him through it.

In the end, his inexperience at the top level of the game was too much to overcome on a team in championship or bust mode. The notion developed that he was holding the team back. Wednesday night in Brooklyn, the Cavaliers didn't act like a team that had just snatched up a nice road win. I'm told the team had a defeated disposition immediately after.

The organization -- especially David Griffin -- knew it was time.

Lue will have only have led the team for 11 games, but will likely coach the Eastern Conference All-Stars in Toronto next month. Timing is everything.

Unfortunately for Blatt, he ran out of time when the team ran out of hope.

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