He just killed us tonight. I was actually praying for Sasha to come in.
martin wrote:I don't know what it is but Afflalo better wake up
he's old and playing with a crappy pg
he's 6'5", and peaked 2 seasons ago in ORL (as first option)
He's at or better than his career averages this season. AA is a sixth man. Not an all-star. Tonight he went out and laid an egg.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3187/arron-afflalo
We cant go too far with this back court
Caseloads wrote:he's 6'5", and peaked 2 seasons ago in ORL (as first option)He's at or better than his career averages this season. AA is a sixth man. Not an all-star. Tonight he went out and laid an egg.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3187/arron-afflalo
Based on the stats, he is not even regressed, yet. No doubt that he has a bad game tonight but who not ever tried?
Knicks should go after Batum in the off season for the shooting guard position. if we can get Teague knicks problems will be solved. championship
wh4t wrote:Knicks should go after Batum in the off season for the shooting guard position. if we can get Teague knicks problems will be solved. championship
We need a lot of Zen for this...
Dreamer deceiver...
Im so damn tired of afflalo. He doesnt do anything besides trying to shoot. I understand not having good shooting nights but you gotta do something else to help the team. if your shooting is off. This season melo has learned that he can still be a bigtime factor if he plays good defense and passes more and has been very effective every game even when he isn't scoring as much, afflalo doesn't do that at all.
Afflalo should be coming off the bench..there's was talk of that before the season started.
I've been an advocate of trading him to a legit playoff team for a young player or draft pick.
He's a stop gap. Knicks werent signing an all star back court last season. Considering the circumstances AA/Jose have been good. Everyone knows that is the focus of upgrading the roster.
mreinman wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:martin wrote:I don't know what it is but Afflalo better wake up
I just think that too many thought he was a diff player than he actually is. He is pretty close to his career production..
He is not very effective because we are very poor at setting picks. He works so hard at his height to get his shot off it is sickening to watch
when was he ever that effective?
In every win we got this yr he is averaging 18 ppg shotting 51%, it's the complete opposite in our losses. In fact, when he stuggles, we lose point blank.
fishmike wrote:He's a stop gap. Knicks werent signing an all star back court last season. Considering the circumstances AA/Jose have been good. Everyone knows that is the focus of upgrading the roster.
stop gap? so how do we upgrade BOTH PG and SG this summer? when we only have enough money to bring in one very good player ?
knicks1248 wrote:mreinman wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:martin wrote:I don't know what it is but Afflalo better wake up
I just think that too many thought he was a diff player than he actually is. He is pretty close to his career production..
He is not very effective because we are very poor at setting picks. He works so hard at his height to get his shot off it is sickening to watch
when was he ever that effective?
In every win we got this yr he is averaging 18 ppg shotting 51%, it's the complete opposite in our losses. In fact, when he stuggles, we lose point blank.
that really is an amazing stat
helloharv wrote:knicks1248 wrote:mreinman wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:mreinman wrote:martin wrote:I don't know what it is but Afflalo better wake up
I just think that too many thought he was a diff player than he actually is. He is pretty close to his career production..
He is not very effective because we are very poor at setting picks. He works so hard at his height to get his shot off it is sickening to watch
when was he ever that effective?
In every win we got this yr he is averaging 18 ppg shotting 51%, it's the complete opposite in our losses. In fact, when he stuggles, we lose point blank.
that really is an amazing stat
it really is, this guy is almosts as streaky starks and JR. He needs to take more layups, it's no secrete that most jumper shooters streaky.
Afflalo should be used as a post up guy, outside of that a spot up shooter (3 ball mainly). Too many times we give him the ball in the mid-range area - which leads him trying to create something which he simply is not good at. He is reliable to take a good look 2 ways. A spot up 3 from outside (whether he makes it or not, it is a good shot for us) or him posting up inside.
Afflalo leads the team in points per possession for post ups.
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=TeamNameAbbreviation
In contrast, we should avoid Porzingis in the post even when often the mismatch is glaring, and try to get him more looks from outside or on the move. We want to get Porzingis the ball when he's on the move or spotting up. He's our worst scorer in post ups. Porzingis still has major advantage in shooting over guys much smaller over him on the move. We don't have to post him up to take advantage of that. He isn't ready in that area of the game. His post game needs a year or two to hone. Porzingis shoots 1.1/3.2 on three pointers which the equivalent of scoring at over 50 percent in the post. His post FG percentage is actually very low - in the 30's. People complain about his 3 ball, but look at Curry/Thompson. You want natural gifted shooters like Porzingis to be that rare player who has the green light to "get them up" from outside. Any time Porzingis has a look as a jumpshot he should take it.
In a way we miss Calderon on offense. He was smart in directing and organizing the offense. I think the team's record with Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Afflalo/Calderon all healthy and playing is quite good - of a playoff team. Ever since Melo rolled his ankle, it's just been one thing after another with this team and our playoff hopes have gone down the tubes with it.
I'm not upset with Afflalo, he's given his best and done what he can. The team doesn't have the depth to deal with injuries to their veteran/top 5 players. Since Melo has rolled his ankle, I believe we've had 3 games where the top 5 players on the team have been available. Have gone 2-1 in that stretch. If we don't have these guys the rest of the way, I can't see us even finishing at .500 (41 wins). We need Afflalo, Jose, Melo, KP and Lopez to be healthy the rest of the way.
nyknickzingis wrote:Afflalo should be used as a post up guy, outside of that a spot up shooter (3 ball mainly). Too many times we give him the ball in the mid-range area - which leads him trying to create something which he simply is not good at. He is reliable to take a good look 2 ways. A spot up 3 from outside (whether he makes it or not, it is a good shot for us) or him posting up inside.Afflalo leads the team in points per possession for post ups.
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=TeamNameAbbreviation
In contrast, we should avoid Porzingis in the post even when often the mismatch is glaring, and try to get him more looks from outside or on the move. We want to get Porzingis the ball when he's on the move or spotting up. He's our worst scorer in post ups. Porzingis still has major advantage in shooting over guys much smaller over him on the move. We don't have to post him up to take advantage of that. He isn't ready in that area of the game. His post game needs a year or two to hone. Porzingis shoots 1.1/3.2 on three pointers which the equivalent of scoring at over 50 percent in the post. His post FG percentage is actually very low - in the 30's. People complain about his 3 ball, but look at Curry/Thompson. You want natural gifted shooters like Porzingis to be that rare player who has the green light to "get them up" from outside. Any time Porzingis has a look as a jumpshot he should take it.
In a way we miss Calderon on offense. He was smart in directing and organizing the offense. I think the team's record with Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Afflalo/Calderon all healthy and playing is quite good - of a playoff team. Ever since Melo rolled his ankle, it's just been one thing after another with this team and our playoff hopes have gone down the tubes with it.
I'm not upset with Afflalo, he's given his best and done what he can. The team doesn't have the depth to deal with injuries to their veteran/top 5 players. Since Melo has rolled his ankle, I believe we've had 3 games where the top 5 players on the team have been available. Have gone 2-1 in that stretch. If we don't have these guys the rest of the way, I can't see us even finishing at .500 (41 wins). We need Afflalo, Jose, Melo, KP and Lopez to be healthy the rest of the way.
Good post - I agree with you on most points. We should be running a 2 man game more often with KP and having him actually coming off screens looking for his jump shot.
Was Aflallo always this slow?
helloharv wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:Afflalo should be used as a post up guy, outside of that a spot up shooter (3 ball mainly). Too many times we give him the ball in the mid-range area - which leads him trying to create something which he simply is not good at. He is reliable to take a good look 2 ways. A spot up 3 from outside (whether he makes it or not, it is a good shot for us) or him posting up inside.Afflalo leads the team in points per possession for post ups.
http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&PT=player&OD=offensive&sort=TeamNameAbbreviation
In contrast, we should avoid Porzingis in the post even when often the mismatch is glaring, and try to get him more looks from outside or on the move. We want to get Porzingis the ball when he's on the move or spotting up. He's our worst scorer in post ups. Porzingis still has major advantage in shooting over guys much smaller over him on the move. We don't have to post him up to take advantage of that. He isn't ready in that area of the game. His post game needs a year or two to hone. Porzingis shoots 1.1/3.2 on three pointers which the equivalent of scoring at over 50 percent in the post. His post FG percentage is actually very low - in the 30's. People complain about his 3 ball, but look at Curry/Thompson. You want natural gifted shooters like Porzingis to be that rare player who has the green light to "get them up" from outside. Any time Porzingis has a look as a jumpshot he should take it.
In a way we miss Calderon on offense. He was smart in directing and organizing the offense. I think the team's record with Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Afflalo/Calderon all healthy and playing is quite good - of a playoff team. Ever since Melo rolled his ankle, it's just been one thing after another with this team and our playoff hopes have gone down the tubes with it.
I'm not upset with Afflalo, he's given his best and done what he can. The team doesn't have the depth to deal with injuries to their veteran/top 5 players. Since Melo has rolled his ankle, I believe we've had 3 games where the top 5 players on the team have been available. Have gone 2-1 in that stretch. If we don't have these guys the rest of the way, I can't see us even finishing at .500 (41 wins). We need Afflalo, Jose, Melo, KP and Lopez to be healthy the rest of the way.
Good post - I agree with you on most points. We should be running a 2 man game more often with KP and having him actually coming off screens looking for his jump shot.
Did you say "coming off screens?" Don't you know that we are amongst the worst screening teams in the league? Aflalo should be allowed to go through shooting slumps,but he is not rebounding nor passing the ball to open shooters. Why don't they (coaches, teammates, or even the media) ask him why he is not making a bigger effort to pass the ball and rebound?
Our back court is terrible at defending, scoring and rebounding.
helloharv wrote:fishmike wrote:He's a stop gap. Knicks werent signing an all star back court last season. Considering the circumstances AA/Jose have been good. Everyone knows that is the focus of upgrading the roster.
stop gap? so how do we upgrade BOTH PG and SG this summer? when we only have enough money to bring in one very good player ?
Rome wasn't built in one offseason, right?
