CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
Give me Hickson or DLee to replace KOQ and Seraphin please!
CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
still cant believe bargs cost us a first round pick
StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
still cant believe bargs cost us a first round pick
People always speculate about how bad are certain trades... The Bargnani-to-NY trade was utter embarrassment.
Knicksfan wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
still cant believe bargs cost us a first round pick
People always speculate about how bad are certain trades... The Bargnani-to-NY trade was utter embarrassment.
I wonder if James Dolan realizes this now. Imagine if we had lost our pick this past year- and Porzingas was lighting it up for Denver as part of the Melo deal, or Toronto or wherever.
Dolan should, if he gets it, write it into the contract that no GM can trade a future first round pick under any circumstances.
franco12 wrote:Knicksfan wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
still cant believe bargs cost us a first round pick
People always speculate about how bad are certain trades... The Bargnani-to-NY trade was utter embarrassment.
I wonder if James Dolan realizes this now. Imagine if we had lost our pick this past year- and Porzingas was lighting it up for Denver as part of the Melo deal, or Toronto or wherever.
Dolan should, if he gets it, write it into the contract that no GM can trade a future first round pick under any circumstances.
Saw an article this morning that said Dolan pulled the plug on the Lowry deal because he didn't want to get fleeced again by Ujiri.
CrushAlot wrote:franco12 wrote:Knicksfan wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
still cant believe bargs cost us a first round pick
People always speculate about how bad are certain trades... The Bargnani-to-NY trade was utter embarrassment.
I wonder if James Dolan realizes this now. Imagine if we had lost our pick this past year- and Porzingas was lighting it up for Denver as part of the Melo deal, or Toronto or wherever.
Dolan should, if he gets it, write it into the contract that no GM can trade a future first round pick under any circumstances.
Saw an article this morning that said Dolan pulled the plug on the Lowry deal because he didn't want to get fleeced again by Ujiri.
And that was like 6 months prior to the Bargnani trade 
StarksEwing1 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Wojo saying Bargs, D Lee, and Hickson will be bought out if they can't be traded.
still cant believe bargs cost us a first round pick
and then there was eddy curry, or antonio mcdyess. Even if we just avoid those major blunders we'll be so much better off than prior GMs
Why do we always have to dwell in the past. I get we don't have a 2016 pick. We all know why. Let's deal worth right now. My therapist is making a killing off me.
Im still in shock that the Cavs gave Shump a 4 year/40 mil deal. What in the ever loving f#@k were they thinking? Wow.
Im not sure the Knicks have the assets to get much done this year. Unless Melo waives his no-trade.
newyorker4ever wrote:If you had to make one of these deals which one would you choose??http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knick...
I think I'd do Oladipo because he's the best talent moving forward and a good building block - though I haven't watched enough of the Magic to know why they'd give up on him so early.
I think the trade that would lead to the best team on the floor for this season would be Jennings for Calderon and a pick. It'll be really interesting to see if Phil would send a pick out the door. He hasn't done that yet.
crzymdups wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:If you had to make one of these deals which one would you choose??http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knick...
I think I'd do Oladipo because he's the best talent moving forward and a good building block - though I haven't watched enough of the Magic to know why they'd give up on him so early.
I think the trade that would lead to the best team on the floor for this season would be Jennings for Calderon and a pick. It'll be really interesting to see if Phil would send a pick out the door. He hasn't done that yet.
I can't see him sending out a pick to get rid of Jose and get a guy that is a free agent at the end of the season. I do like the Oladipo deal.
CrushAlot wrote:crzymdups wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:If you had to make one of these deals which one would you choose??http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knick...
I think I'd do Oladipo because he's the best talent moving forward and a good building block - though I haven't watched enough of the Magic to know why they'd give up on him so early.
I think the trade that would lead to the best team on the floor for this season would be Jennings for Calderon and a pick. It'll be really interesting to see if Phil would send a pick out the door. He hasn't done that yet.
I can't see him sending out a pick to get rid of Jose and get a guy that is a free agent at the end of the season. I do like the Oladipo deal.
The Jennings deal would be the ultimate example of a traditional Knicks win now deal. Though we've seen with all trades of impending free agents - it gives you the inside track to sign them because you can offer the best deal - biggest raises, longest terms.
I admit to being fascinated to see where Phil takes this deadline.
I sort of predict he'll stand pat.
But is he gonna flinch on including a 2018 first round pick? Chances he'll be in the building for the 2018 draft?
I think I'd be okay with including a first round pick WITH PROTECTIONS.
crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:crzymdups wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:If you had to make one of these deals which one would you choose??http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knick...
I think I'd do Oladipo because he's the best talent moving forward and a good building block - though I haven't watched enough of the Magic to know why they'd give up on him so early.
I think the trade that would lead to the best team on the floor for this season would be Jennings for Calderon and a pick. It'll be really interesting to see if Phil would send a pick out the door. He hasn't done that yet.
I can't see him sending out a pick to get rid of Jose and get a guy that is a free agent at the end of the season. I do like the Oladipo deal.
The Jennings deal would be the ultimate win now deal. Though we've seen with all trades of impending free agents - it gives you the inside track to sign them because you can offer the best deal - biggest raises, longest terms.
I admit to being fascinated to see where Phil takes this deadline.
I sort of predict he'll stand pat.
But is he gonna flinch on including a 2018 first round pick? Chances he'll be in the building for the 2018 draft?
I think I'd be okay with including a first round pick WITH PROTECTIONS.
That is tough but I do think gms sometimes have to think about winning now versus big picture. I actually think Grant is more likely to be moved then a future first. Also, it is much harder to get back or get into the first round then it used to be. The Hardaway trade was brilliant not the norm by any means.
crzymdups wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:If you had to make one of these deals which one would you choose??http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knick...
I think I'd do Oladipo because he's the best talent moving forward and a good building block - though I haven't watched enough of the Magic to know why they'd give up on him so early.
I think the trade that would lead to the best team on the floor for this season would be Jennings for Calderon and a pick. It'll be really interesting to see if Phil would send a pick out the door. He hasn't done that yet.
If that is what Oladipo is worth then I would do that deal but I would try to keep Thomas and give them a 2nd rd pick instead. Oladipo could play the point for the knicks like he does for Orlando when Payton is out.
If you have a choice between trades like that I think you always take the youngest player that do not cost you a 1st rd pick.
I would definitely make that trade for Oladipo - I know Lance has played well for us this year, but he's not exactly irreplaceable. I wonder if Fisher being gone does make things easier for the front office to move him. Unlike this time last year, we have enough veteran leadership on the team even without him.
It would also give Williams a more defined role.
Is Oladipo's value really that low though?
Maybe Oladipo could lift Grant's confidence. They were H.S. teammates and friends.
crzymdups wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:If you had to make one of these deals which one would you choose??http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knick...
I think I'd do Oladipo because he's the best talent moving forward and a good building block - though I haven't watched enough of the Magic to know why they'd give up on him so early.
I think the trade that would lead to the best team on the floor for this season would be Jennings for Calderon and a pick. It'll be really interesting to see if Phil would send a pick out the door. He hasn't done that yet.
Give up a #1 pick for Jennings??? You are crazy! No f'in way. I know Phil would never do this.
Have to believe Orlando will be moving Oladipo if they get Jennings.
crzymdups wrote:Have to believe Orlando will be moving Oladipo if they get Jennings.
Also, Tobias Harris is a GREAT pickup for Detroit. SVG is a smart man.
