NardDogNation wrote:EnySpree wrote:I would definitely offer the bulls Rolo, Seraphin, Grant 2018 draft pick for Gasol and Taj. Then you try to sign Stevenson and or Kevin Martin I'd they are waived.
KP, Melo, Gasol, Stevenson, Martin
with Calderón, Galloway, Affalo, Lance, Derrick Williams, Taj, O'Quinn...
Dude that's a championship caliber team.
That's a horrible idea. Yet another pick lost for what? To augment a sub-.500 team with players that are increasingly becoming injury prone and who are on the tail end of their careers? Why do that when we have a future top 10 player to build around? Time start planning for the future and not continue spinning the wheels!
Besides, you got to ask yourself why Chicago, as a win-now team, is looking to deal those guys. I think it's clear they recognize the game is changing and that Gasol and Gibson are relics. We need to be at the forefront of trends, not conform to old status quos.
So confirm to the new status quo? I personally don't care what other teams are doing. There's more than one way to win.
I don't like the idea if trading picks either but adding taj and Gasol to this current team makes them better. Also if the Knicks could add Stevenson and Martin.... they could win it all this year.
The future would be wide open because the Knicks would have super cap space.
EnySpree wrote:NardDogNation wrote:EnySpree wrote:I would definitely offer the bulls Rolo, Seraphin, Grant 2018 draft pick for Gasol and Taj. Then you try to sign Stevenson and or Kevin Martin I'd they are waived.
KP, Melo, Gasol, Stevenson, Martin
with Calderón, Galloway, Affalo, Lance, Derrick Williams, Taj, O'Quinn...
Dude that's a championship caliber team.
That's a horrible idea. Yet another pick lost for what? To augment a sub-.500 team with players that are increasingly becoming injury prone and who are on the tail end of their careers? Why do that when we have a future top 10 player to build around? Time start planning for the future and not continue spinning the wheels!
Besides, you got to ask yourself why Chicago, as a win-now team, is looking to deal those guys. I think it's clear they recognize the game is changing and that Gasol and Gibson are relics. We need to be at the forefront of trends, not conform to old status quos.
So confirm to the new status quo? I personally don't care what other teams are doing. There's more than one way to win.
I don't like the idea if trading picks either but adding taj and Gasol to this current team makes them better. Also if the Knicks could add Stevenson and Martin.... they could win it all this year.
The future would be wide open because the Knicks would have super cap space.
That team wouldn't even make the playoffs, man. How well are Gasol and Gibson preventing the Bulls from sliding from the 3rd seed to 7th and worsening? Combine them with what we have and we'd only be marginally better with the worst backcourt in the league. If the goal is to win now, which is a fool's errand, the strategy should be to purge the team of non-essential personnel (Calderon, Seraphin,and O'Quinn) while maximizing cap space. It'd put us in the free agent signing game, which would allow us to sign the Pau Gasol's of the world without surrendering assets. Personally though, I think Al Horford and (possibly) DeMarr DeRozan would both come here and improve the team dramatically. Unfortunately, it'd be a short shelf-life, which is why I find it particularly unappealing.
Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:wh4t wrote:a lot of players that passed on the knicks before are regretting it now. gasol, tobias .....
You just can't fix stupid.Watch how Derick Williams puts his career back in the toilet by opting out of his Knicks contract and signing with some team that puts him right back where he was last year . . .
You're sure in a pissy mood today, Malcolm.What's happening, bro (?)
Yeah. I don't know what it is . . . but the Knicks situation sure doesn't help. 
Guess it's time (3:25PM) for an adult beverage.BARTENDER (!)
Not sure that a triangle involving you/a bartender/a drink is the "Triangle Culture" you've talked about so often.
Drive carefully.
Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:Malcolm wrote:wh4t wrote:a lot of players that passed on the knicks before are regretting it now. gasol, tobias .....
You just can't fix stupid.Watch how Derick Williams puts his career back in the toilet by opting out of his Knicks contract and signing with some team that puts him right back where he was last year . . .
You're sure in a pissy mood today, Malcolm.What's happening, bro (?)
Yeah. I don't know what it is . . . but the Knicks situation sure doesn't help.
Guess it's time (3:25PM) for an adult beverage.BARTENDER (!)
lol
EnySpree wrote:NardDogNation wrote:EnySpree wrote:I would definitely offer the bulls Rolo, Seraphin, Grant 2018 draft pick for Gasol and Taj. Then you try to sign Stevenson and or Kevin Martin I'd they are waived.
KP, Melo, Gasol, Stevenson, Martin
with Calderón, Galloway, Affalo, Lance, Derrick Williams, Taj, O'Quinn...
Dude that's a championship caliber team.
That's a horrible idea. Yet another pick lost for what? To augment a sub-.500 team with players that are increasingly becoming injury prone and who are on the tail end of their careers? Why do that when we have a future top 10 player to build around? Time start planning for the future and not continue spinning the wheels!
Besides, you got to ask yourself why Chicago, as a win-now team, is looking to deal those guys. I think it's clear they recognize the game is changing and that Gasol and Gibson are relics. We need to be at the forefront of trends, not conform to old status quos.
So confirm to the new status quo? I personally don't care what other teams are doing. There's more than one way to win.
I don't like the idea if trading picks either but adding taj and Gasol to this current team makes them better. Also if the Knicks could add Stevenson and Martin.... they could win it all this year.
The future would be wide open because the Knicks would have super cap space.
You are trading Rolo, Grant and 2018 draft pick to get cap space? We just SIGNED Rolo with that cap space. So mostly it's just giving away 2 first round picks for a 3 month rental of old dudes who are going to be free agents anyway?
Would much rather see if we can sign Gasol and keep Rolo. Would have a very versatile frontcourt for the next couple of years. Porzingis would learn advanced post play from Gasol, and the blue collar game from Lopez. If Lopez is traded, I would like it to be for a real game changer, someone who will be around to be KP's wingman for years to come. Otherwise its foolish IMO. We went years without being able to find someone with his skill set.
Jmpasq wrote:EnySpree wrote:I would definitely offer the bulls Rolo, Seraphin, Grant 2018 draft pick for Gasol and Taj. Then you try to sign Stevenson and or Kevin Martin I'd they are waived.
KP, Melo, Gasol, Stevenson, Martin
with Calderón, Galloway, Affalo, Lance, Derrick Williams, Taj, O'Quinn...
Dude that's a championship caliber team.
I hope your joking
Can we please stop trading first round draft picks for injury prone and/or over the hill players? Is it really that much to ask for?
Tough crowd. If Miami made the same trade everyone would be on the dillsnickles
EnySpree wrote:Tough crowd. If Miami made the same trade everyone would be on the dillsnickles
Completely different situation. Miami is trying to cash in on a fast closing window, we should be looking to build for a solid long term future.
if we can get gasol w/o trading for rolo and jerian, fine. I rather the knicks trade amundson or seraphin and add vujecic or calderon. like someone just said gasol can be a good teacher for porzingis while he comes off the bench. rolo is a rugged bruiser. knicks need a tough defender like him.
