Knicks · Were one Rajon Rondo away from (page 1)

BRIGGS @ 3/8/2016 10:04 PM
Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah
nyknickzingis @ 3/8/2016 10:15 PM
It's not Melo's fault that the team's starting unit is constructed the way it is, he is trying to help.
I'm not a big keep Melo in NY fan, I am very open and willing to trade his butt for some younger talent and draft picks.

The Knicks need to get quicker and more athletic with their starters. Not about names like Rondo, Conley, Howard even. Get guys that will come in and want to hustle on defense and fit in the offense you want to run. We absolutely can not come back with 4 or more of the same starters back. At most we should come back next year with 3 of the same starters (KP, Melo, Afflalo or Lopez). There needs to be 2 new starters added via free agency.

All that in mind, so far Melo has played a horrendous yet typical example game. He's a great scoring talent, yet the focus level and consistency just isn't there. It's ok if you shoot the ball poorly. However as a top player in the league you can't come in and play so carelessly. It's not unusual for Melo to play like that. There's just a fire missing in him. It's who he is.

mreinman @ 3/8/2016 10:16 PM
nice tricky thread title
KNICKSBIGCATS @ 3/8/2016 10:30 PM
The best name for this team is team dysfunction.
There are reports that are circulating that Rondo and Dwight
are chirping to sign on for some of Dolan's $$$$$$$$$.
Both players are horrible fits.
And so it goes.
Get ready of another 10 years of misery if you are a NYK fan.
nyknickzingis @ 3/8/2016 10:50 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:The best name for this team is team dysfunction.
There are reports that are circulating that Rondo and Dwight
are chirping to sign on for some of Dolan's $$$$$$$$$.
Both players are horrible fits.
And so it goes.
Get ready of another 10 years of misery if you are a NYK fan.

Knicks don't have money for Dwight/Rondo.
To sign both, just guessing, at the very least, it would require 40 million in capspace.
HofstraBBall @ 3/8/2016 11:07 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

Wait a secomd....Melo the Pseudo GM? Thought that was your job?

crzymdups @ 3/8/2016 11:11 PM
Briggs, remember last year when you predicted for months from a quote Phil made in April that we were drafting Willie Cauley Stein and signing Greg Monroe? I do. It's early. A lot is gonna change
mreinman @ 3/8/2016 11:13 PM
crzymdups wrote:Briggs, remember last year when you predicted for months from a quote Phil made in April that we were drafting Willie Cauley Stein and signing Greg Monroe? I do. It's early. A lot is gonna change

trey lyles. he knew it for a fact.

BRIGGS @ 3/8/2016 11:33 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

Wait a secomd....Melo the Pseudo GM? Thought that was your job?

Melo cost 25 mm I'm free the cost efficiency is a no brainer

ChuckBuck @ 3/8/2016 11:34 PM
...total Isiah era dysfunction.
Paris907 @ 3/8/2016 11:56 PM
I don't want Howard and Rondo could fit but the Press in NY may get to him and he'll run over most coaches but not Thibs. Keep Afflalo Lopez and KP plus 1 FA preferably Fournier or Batum.
Wroten and Hernangomez may be in the rotation. Wilkiams too likely. Grant and Galloway stay. So the Melo "deal" will be 3 team deal and hopefully bring back $20 + million and Brooklyn pick. If it's a top pick, the "kid" may start.

With money from the Melo deal, Calderon, not using all of what he have this year, less Thomas, there should be $30 plus in the til next year

Vmart @ 3/9/2016 7:21 AM
Simple fact when the teams best player says he is going to recruit it basically tells his teammates he doesn't believe in them. That is Melo showing his leadership ability.
HofstraBBall @ 3/9/2016 7:23 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

Wait a secomd....Melo the Pseudo GM? Thought that was your job?

Melo cost 25 mm I'm free the cost efficiency is a no brainer

Seriously? If you watched last night's game, and I know you did, and your a decently smart basketball fan, which I think you are, the only "No brainer" is that Melo is not the problem. Besides Melo, KP, who did not show it last night, and Rolo, this whole unprofessional inconsistent scaps of a squad should be traded for some water bottles.

franco12 @ 3/9/2016 7:31 AM
Vmart wrote:Simple fact when the teams best player says he is going to recruit it basically tells his teammates he doesn't believe in them. That is Melo showing his leadership ability.

kinda agree with this big time.

If I'm Melo and I'm asked anything about the off season, I say I love my team mates and think we can win, just need to execute better, grow together, etc.

I don't think its intentional on Melo's part, but I bet the impact is real.

Jmpasq @ 3/9/2016 7:32 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

That kind of signing is going to put the nail in the coffin of us ever being a title contender. We have to get another controlled star on a rookie deal or we have zero chance of truly competing. Rondo makes us good enough that we don't get the pick we need next season

BRIGGS @ 3/9/2016 8:04 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

Wait a secomd....Melo the Pseudo GM? Thought that was your job?

Melo cost 25 mm I'm free the cost efficiency is a no brainer

Seriously? If you watched last night's game, and I know you did, and your a decently smart basketball fan, which I think you are, the only "No brainer" is that Melo is not the problem. Besides Melo, KP, who did not show it last night, and Rolo, this whole unprofessional inconsistent scaps of a squad should be traded for some water bottles.

Would I trade Melo for Jamal Murray Denzel Valentine Grayson Allen And jay Crowder for example-- yes I would

BRIGGS @ 3/9/2016 8:10 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

Wait a secomd....Melo the Pseudo GM? Thought that was your job?

Melo cost 25 mm I'm free the cost efficiency is a no brainer

Seriously? If you watched last night's game, and I know you did, and your a decently smart basketball fan, which I think you are, the only "No brainer" is that Melo is not the problem. Besides Melo, KP, who did not show it last night, and Rolo, this whole unprofessional inconsistent scaps of a squad should be traded for some water bottles.

Would I trade Melo for Jamal Murray Denzel Valentine Grayson Allen And jay Crowder for example-- yes I would

Moonangie @ 3/9/2016 9:08 AM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:The best name for this team is team dysfunction.
There are reports that are circulating that Rondo and Dwight
are chirping to sign on for some of Dolan's $$$$$$$$$.
Both players are horrible fits.
And so it goes.
Get ready of another 10 years of misery if you are a NYK fan.

Exactly the two players I most DON'T want on my team. If DOlan signs them, I'm going to cancel my TWC sub as I won't need to watch MSG anymore (I have Wizards on League Pass). Fuck this shyte!

HofstraBBall @ 3/9/2016 9:20 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Being a 37 win team. Yeah what we need is for Carmelo to be our pseudo gm. How about start by getting back on d and moving the ball blah

Wait a secomd....Melo the Pseudo GM? Thought that was your job?

Melo cost 25 mm I'm free the cost efficiency is a no brainer

Seriously? If you watched last night's game, and I know you did, and your a decently smart basketball fan, which I think you are, the only "No brainer" is that Melo is not the problem. Besides Melo, KP, who did not show it last night, and Rolo, this whole unprofessional inconsistent scaps of a squad should be traded for some water bottles.

Would I trade Melo for Jamal Murray Denzel Valentine Grayson Allen And jay Crowder for example-- yes I would

Even if that was a possibility in the real world, would that not put us a level under a current Boston squad? As I do believe Boston had good you g talent but not much of a team until IT.

NYStateOfMind @ 3/9/2016 1:59 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:It's not Melo's fault that the team's starting unit is constructed the way it is, he is trying to help.
I'm not a big keep Melo in NY fan, I am very open and willing to trade his butt for some younger talent and draft picks.

The Knicks need to get quicker and more athletic with their starters. Not about names like Rondo, Conley, Howard even. Get guys that will come in and want to hustle on defense and fit in the offense you want to run. We absolutely can not come back with 4 or more of the same starters back. At most we should come back next year with 3 of the same starters (KP, Melo, Afflalo or Lopez). There needs to be 2 new starters added via free agency.

All that in mind, so far Melo has played a horrendous yet typical example game. He's a great scoring talent, yet the focus level and consistency just isn't there. It's ok if you shoot the ball poorly. However as a top player in the league you can't come in and play so carelessly. It's not unusual for Melo to play like that. There's just a fire missing in him. It's who he is.

It is Melo's fault he doesn't hustle back on D. He is the team leader and should set an example for others to follow. Problem is, he does, the wrong message. If everyone got a good example and hustled back on D, they wouldn't be giving up so many easy baskets in transition fast breaks at the hole. We do not have a good enough defensive team to pressure on the inbound, just too slow and both ends. He has complained less, but Melo is still lazy.

ChuckBuck @ 3/9/2016 2:08 PM
NYStateOfMind wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:It's not Melo's fault that the team's starting unit is constructed the way it is, he is trying to help.
I'm not a big keep Melo in NY fan, I am very open and willing to trade his butt for some younger talent and draft picks.

The Knicks need to get quicker and more athletic with their starters. Not about names like Rondo, Conley, Howard even. Get guys that will come in and want to hustle on defense and fit in the offense you want to run. We absolutely can not come back with 4 or more of the same starters back. At most we should come back next year with 3 of the same starters (KP, Melo, Afflalo or Lopez). There needs to be 2 new starters added via free agency.

All that in mind, so far Melo has played a horrendous yet typical example game. He's a great scoring talent, yet the focus level and consistency just isn't there. It's ok if you shoot the ball poorly. However as a top player in the league you can't come in and play so carelessly. It's not unusual for Melo to play like that. There's just a fire missing in him. It's who he is.

It is Melo's fault he doesn't hustle back on D. He is the team leader and should set an example for others to follow. Problem is, he does, the wrong message. If everyone got a good example and hustled back on D, they wouldn't be giving up so many easy baskets in transition fast breaks at the hole. We do not have a good enough defensive team to pressure on the inbound, just too slow and both ends. He has complained less, but Melo is still lazy.

Melo's been missing that fire since he entered the league in 2003. I don't mean to say he doesn't flat out care anymore...but the $23 million a year does soften the blow.

He's a Pay check player, a merc. Give him a break, he's not rah rah and winning comes 2nd to his brand.

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