Knicks · For next year--seeing what you see now would you rather we trade Melo in the "right deal" or keep him and buy a free a (page 8)
mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
They may be but based on the last 15 years, but Philly would kill to have Porzingis. The very reason they're trying so hard to tank every year is that their GM wants a franchise caliber draft pick and doesn't seem to be able to get a hold of one. If he had KP, I think he'd have a very different view point moving forward.
yellowboy90 wrote:knickscity wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:Our frontcourt is a role player, an often injured declining star, and a rookie that we're counting on the coach we haven't even hired to develop him. I wouldn't call it purgatory, but we are a long ways away from winning. We're closer to the Sixers than people will admit to. Definitely nowhere near a winning team.we are the exact definition of a team in nba purgatory
Is there a team outside of GSW, SAS, Cle, Tor, and Bos that is not also in no mans land? As good as Boston and Tor have improve they still have a long way to go to be real contenders. OKC, LAC, Mem, Dallas, ATL, Chi and everyone else are just fooling themselves. Are they in a better state than the knicks sure but will they watch the finals with the knicks sure.
28 teams are gonna watch the finals....lol. I guess they should deliberately build a terrible team and not even try to qualify for the playoffs? Most of those teams have cores that are good enough to remain in those positions for a few more years, so yes, they are not anywhere near the Knicks. Even a team like the Grizzlies who are quite old found small ways to get younger even in the interim, and still win games.The Knicks are closer to the Sixers, and you'd better hope Melo doesn't get smart enough to realize it.
Closer to the sixers than those other teams maybe. Deliberately build a terrible team is probably exactly what some fans want. They want to pick up draft picks or pieces to get them in a similar but slightly better state which probably leads to another trade/FA signing that will put the team over the hump. Would that be better as a fan to be an OKC, LAC, or etc fan, sure I guess but if the knicks had that kind of success the board will still be similar to it is today. Complaining about the offense, FO, and coaching.
Not really maybe, the Knicks actually are. Of course they'll be complaints if the team doesn't win it all. That is the goal at the end of the day. Some want a real rebuild because this isn't working at all, and most teams that win have cores from within, so that makes total sense.
If you're gonna lose as much as the Knicks, at least be rebuilding and stocking assets.
nyknickzingis wrote:mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
They may be but based on the last 15 years, but Philly would kill to have Porzingis. The very reason they're trying so hard to tank every year is that their GM wants a franchise caliber draft pick and doesn't seem to be able to get a hold of one. If he had KP, I think he'd have a very different view point moving forward.
so far philly has not had luck in the draft. That is why you need many chances.
every knows that luck plays a huge part.
mreinman wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
They may be but based on the last 15 years, but Philly would kill to have Porzingis. The very reason they're trying so hard to tank every year is that their GM wants a franchise caliber draft pick and doesn't seem to be able to get a hold of one. If he had KP, I think he'd have a very different view point moving forward.
so far philly has not had luck in the draft. That is why you need many chances.
every knows that luck plays a huge part.
Where was Gaines on Joel Embiid??!??!
crzymdups wrote:mreinman wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
They may be but based on the last 15 years, but Philly would kill to have Porzingis. The very reason they're trying so hard to tank every year is that their GM wants a franchise caliber draft pick and doesn't seem to be able to get a hold of one. If he had KP, I think he'd have a very different view point moving forward.
so far philly has not had luck in the draft. That is why you need many chances.
every knows that luck plays a huge part.
Where was Gaines on Joel Embiid??!??!
he had jokitch
mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
Philly fans kill philly because the Sixers are a joke. Knick fans who think applauding the mindless stockpiling of draft picks for 5 - 10 years as a great 15 year plan because you're playing kids who can't wait to get the fuhuck out of town when they get the chance is really funny though.
nyknickzingis wrote:mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
They may be but based on the last 15 years, but Philly would kill to have Porzingis. The very reason they're trying so hard to tank every year is that their GM wants a franchise caliber draft pick and doesn't seem to be able to get a hold of one. If he had KP, I think he'd have a very different view point moving forward.
Yeah if Hinkie drafted KP, then i don't think Philly would have switched gears this season and tried to speed up the process. KP has franchise player talent on both ends, which is what Philly was trying to get. Drafting KP would have proved Hinkie's plan somewhat a success, but instead, they have a bunch of good but not great pieces and no one really knows which ones, if any, will be put of the sixers core for the long-term.
Knixkik wrote:nyknickzingis wrote:mreinman wrote:knickscity wrote:The sad part is the Knicks are actually worse one of the group because in their minds and gullible fans, they think this team is a Calderon upgrade to winning. The Sixers were in the playoffs when they decided to break it all the way down and stay away from mediocrity. I applaud them for having the balls to actually do that. The Wizards should be better and I'm actually surprised they aren't because they've always had injuries and seemed to come on top of those.The Bucks and Magic are clearly rebuilding. The Bucks I don't think have a player over 30 other than Novak that they just claimed. 10 of their players are 25 and younger. Orlando is their near identical, 1 player over 30 and 10 players 25 and under.
The Knicks have 7 under 25, but 5 over 30, and three of those five are leading the team in minutes played.
knicks fans love killing philly but the joke is on the knicks who are stuck in NBA purgatory.
They may be but based on the last 15 years, but Philly would kill to have Porzingis. The very reason they're trying so hard to tank every year is that their GM wants a franchise caliber draft pick and doesn't seem to be able to get a hold of one. If he had KP, I think he'd have a very different view point moving forward.
Yeah if Hinkie drafted KP, then i don't think Philly would have switched gears this season and tried to speed up the process. KP has franchise player talent on both ends, which is what Philly was trying to get. Drafting KP would have proved Hinkie's plan somewhat a success, but instead, they have a bunch of good but not great pieces and no one really knows which ones, if any, will be put of the sixers core for the long-term.
so if they picked KP they would have been better and therefore stayed the course?
Guess what, if they picked KP then KP would have suhhhuuucked.
I don't care for ok4uck but he is a good player and a player that probably gets picked by every team before KP.