Knicks · Mock draft #1-35 (page 2)

callmened wrote:murray is a natural PG who was forced to move to SG at kentucky. to my surprise he shot the hell out of the ball. but due to his size and lack of quickness, i think he'll play SG

to me - marquiss chriss has TREMENDOUS upside and no one is talking about him. lol

Agree on Chriss but he realistically is not dropping below 10 and maybe should be below 5 or 6. Im not in the Simmons brigade--Id pass on Simmons for a bunch of players.

The guy who in the last few days Ive really co0me to like is Barber. I know finestrng mentioned him --if we go down the list of players from the G position who can make plays WITH the dribble OVER 6-2--hes probably the best player that we can GET slightly above Felder because of length.

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

Everyone shoots good in workouts

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

Everyone shoots good in workouts

I'm not debating the % I'm talking about the mechanics. Here is highlight video of him. His form is good. He does have upside and good mechanics.

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

Everyone shoots good in workouts

I'm not debating the % I'm talking about the mechanics. Here is highlight video of him. His form is good. He does have upside and good mechanics.

Im not there on him. Hes a 2nd rounder--it would be insane to reach for him with a future.

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

Everyone shoots good in workouts

I'm not debating the % I'm talking about the mechanics. Here is highlight video of him. His form is good. He does have upside and good mechanics.

Im not there on him. Hes a 2nd rounder--it would be insane to reach for him with a future.

I figure they would just buy the late first. pick 28-30

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

Everyone shoots good in workouts

I'm not debating the % I'm talking about the mechanics. Here is highlight video of him. His form is good. He does have upside and good mechanics.

Im not there on him. Hes a 2nd rounder--it would be insane to reach for him with a future.

I figure they would just buy the late first. pick 28-30

No way in hll anyone sells a pick earlier than 40.

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

We would have to disagree with you on his shooting skill.

Also from Upside and Motor

Richardson’s most attractive attribute is his scoring ability from the wing. His offensive game is best defined as streaky, but when he’s playing near his peak, the 20-year old is an impressive outside shooter and shot creator. Richardson’s mechanics on his jumper are smooth and his length gives him a nice, high release point that makes it difficult to challenge. During his freshman season, he regularly showed off NBA three-point range, often pulling up from a few feet behind the college three-point line.

Don't get me wrong. He is second rounder material and if he goes then I wouldn't be surprised. However the mechanics are all there to the point I think he could maybe break through to be a serviceable rotation player sooner than later.

Everyone shoots good in workouts

I'm not debating the % I'm talking about the mechanics. Here is highlight video of him. His form is good. He does have upside and good mechanics.

Im not there on him. Hes a 2nd rounder--it would be insane to reach for him with a future.

I figure they would just buy the late first. pick 28-30

No way in hll anyone sells a pick earlier than 40.

4 teams have 3 first rounders this year. No way can they all use them to stash euro's. Also most teams don't value late 1st rounders because of the guaranteed contract aspect of them.

BRIGGS wrote:After a lot of consideration I put this together but will need to add foreign players as time goes on.

.1 Jamal Murray G 6-5 200
.2 Branden Ingram F 6-9 200
.3 Kriss Dunn 6-4 220
.4 Buddy Hield 6-5 215
.5 Marquiss Chriss 6-10 235 F
.6 Denzel Valentine PG 6-5 225
.7 Jakob Poetl 7-1 245
.8 Ben Simmons F 6-10 240
.9 Jaylen Brown F 6-7 225
10 Thon Maker 7-1 225
11 Malik Beasely G 6-4 180
12 Defounte Murray 6-6 190 SG
13 Skal Labissierre C/F 6-11 220
14 Anthony Barber 6-3 PG
15 Dragen Bender 7-1 220
16 Donatas Sabonis F 6-10 245
17 Kay Felder 5-9 175 PG
18 A J Hammonds 7-1 265
19 Daytona Davis F 6-11 230
20 Stephen Zimmerman PF 7-0 230
21 Brice Johnson 6-10 210
22 Ben Bentil F 6-9 240
23 Patrick McCaw G 6-7 190
24 Henry Ellenson F 6-10 240
25 Cheik Diallo 6-9 245 C
26 Derrick Jones G 6-7 190
27 Shellan Mcllelan G 6-6 205
28 Michael Gbinjie 6-7 215
29 Diamond Stone 6-11 260 C
30 Bryn Forbes SG 6-3 180
31 Yogi Ferrell PG 6-0 180
32 Isiah Whitehead PG 6-4 210
33 Deandre Bembry G 6-6 210
34 Malcolm Brogdon 6-6 210
35 Tyler Ullis PG 5-9 180
36 Wayne Selden SG 6-6 230
37 Perry Ellis F 6-8 225
38 Daniel Ochefu 7-0 250 C
39 Malachi Richardson 6-5 210
40 Daniel Hamilton 6-8 G
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.1 Jamal Murray G 6-5 200
.2 Branden Ingram F 6-9 200
.3 Buddy Hield 6-5 215
.4 Ben Simmons 6-10 240
.5 Damian Jones 7-0 250 C
.6 Kriss Dunn 6-4 220
.7 Denzel Valentine 6-5 220
.8 Malik Beasley 6-4 190
.9 Dejounte Murray PG 6-5 180
10 Marquese Chriss 6-10 240
11 A J Hammons 7-1 270
12 Anthony Barber 6-3 180
13 Jaylen Brown 6-7 225
14 Malcolm Brogdon 6-6 210
15 Thon Maker 7-1 225
16 Jakob Poetl 7-1 245 C
17 Ben Bentil 6-9 240
18 Wade Baldwin 6-3 200 pg
19 Demetrius Jackson 6-1 205
20 Dragen Bender 7-1 220
21 Damatas Sabonis 6-10 F
22 Kay Felder 5-9 175 PG
23 Skal Labrieesse 6-11 220
24 Henry Ellenson F 6-10 240
25 Brice Johnson 6-10 210 f
26 Cheik Diallo 6-9 245
27 Derrick Jones GF 6-7 190
28 Patrick McCaw 6-7 185
29 Diamond Stone 6-11 260 C
30 Bryn Forbes PG 6-3 180
31 Michael Gbinjie 6-7 215
32 Malachi Richardson 6-5 210
33 Deandre Bembry G 6-6 210
34 Stephen Zimmerman 7-0 230
35 Yogi Ferrell 6-0 185
36 Wayne Selden SG 6-6 230
37 Perry Ellis F 6-8 225
38 Daytona Davis 6-11 230 F
39 Tyler Ullis 5-9 160 PG
40 Robert Carter Jr 6-9 250 F
41 George Niang F 6-8 240
42 Zhou Qi 7-1 220 F
43 Daniel Hamilton 6-8 190 G
44 Shellan Mcllelan G 6-5 200
45 Isiah Whitehead PG 6-4 210
46 Jake Layman F 6-9 225
47 Jarred Uthoff 6-9 210 SF
48 Isiah Miles 6-8 220 F/G
49 Caris Lavert G 6-7 200
50 Daniel Ochefu 7-0 245
51 Zach Auguste PF/C 6-10 245
52 Josh Scott PF 6-10 245
53 Kyle Wiltjer 6-10 240
54 Gary Payton Jr 6-3 190 G
55 James Webb F 6-9 200
56 Paskal Siakam F 6-10 230
57 Troy Williams F 6-7 210
58 Josh Adams PG 6-2 190
59 Ryan Andersen F 6-9 235
60 Miles Plumlee C 7-0 250

crzymdups wrote:Would love if the Knicks could get a pick in the 30s to get Gbinije

BRIGGS wrote:pre draft 2nd to last full mock. Ill finish it up June 24 after I look at more international players.

Isn't the draft June 23rd?

BigRedDog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:pre draft 2nd to last full mock. Ill finish it up June 24 after I look at more international players.

Isn't the draft June 23rd?

lol

barefeet 6-10.25 wingspan 7-4 vertical 37 weight 245

Derrick Favors

6.8.75 wingspan 7-4 vertical max 35.5 weight 245

Andre Drumond

6.9.75 wingspan 7-6.25 vertical 33.5 weight 280