Knicks · Mock draft #1-35 (page 1)

BRIGGS @ 5/11/2016 8:34 PM
.1 Jamal Murray G 6-5 200
.2 Branden Ingram F 6-9 200
.3 Buddy Hield 6-5 215
4.Marquese Chriss 6-10 240
.5 Damian Jones 7-0 250 C
.6 Kriss Dunn 6-4 220
7 Ben Simmons 6-10 240
.8 Denzel Valentine 6-5 220
.9 Malik Beasley 6-4 190
.10 Dejounte Murray PG 6-5 180
11 Jaylen Brown 6-7 230 F
12 A J Hammons 7-0 270
13 Anthony Barber 6-3 180
14 Malcolm Brogdon 6-6 210
15 Thon Maker 7-1 225
16 Jakob Poetl 7-1 245 C
17 Ben Bentil 6-9 240
18 Wade Baldwin 6-3 200 pg
19 Demetrius Jackson 6-1 205
20 Dragen Bender 7-1 220
21 Damatas Sabonis 6-10 F
22 Kay Felder 5-9 175 PG
23 Skal Labrieesse 6-11 220
24 Stephen Zimmerman 7-0 240
25 Brice Johnson 6-10 210 f
26 Michael Gbinije 6-7 210
27 Derrick Jones GF 6-7 190
28 Patrick McCaw 6-7 185
29 Diamond Stone 6-11 260 C
30 Bryn Forbes PG 6-3 180
31 Cheik Diallo 6-9 245
32 Malachi Richardson 6-5 210
33 Deandre Bembry G 6-6 210
34 Henry Ellenson F 6-10 240
35 Yogi Ferrell 6-0 185
36 Wayne Selden SG 6-6 230
37 Miles Plumlee C 7-0 250
38 Daytona Davis 6-11 230 F
39 Tyler Ullis 5-9 160 PG
40 Robert Carter Jr 6-9 250 F
41 George Niang F 6-8 240
42 Zhou Qi 7-1 220 F
43 Perry Ellis F 6-8 230
44 Shellan Mcllelan G 6-5 200
45 Isiah Whitehead PG 6-4 210
46 Jake Layman F 6-9 225
47 Jarred Uthoff 6-9 210 SF
48 Isiah Miles 6-8 220 F/G
49 Caris Lavert G 6-7 200
50 Daniel Hamilton G 6-8 200
51 Zach Auguste PF/C 6-10 245
52 Josh Scott PF 6-10 245
53 Kyle Wiltjer 6-10 240
54 Gary Payton Jr 6-3 190 G
55 James Webb F 6-9 200
56 Paskal Siakam F 6-10 230
57 Troy Williams F 6-7 210
58 Josh Adams PG 6-2 190
59 Ryan Andersen F 6-9 235
60 Daniel Ochefu 7-0 245
callmened @ 5/11/2016 9:05 PM
do you know the draft order BRIGGS?
BRIGGS @ 5/12/2016 12:19 AM
callmened wrote:do you know the draft order BRIGGS?

The lottery is next week

callmened @ 5/12/2016 9:53 AM
exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

newyorker4ever @ 5/12/2016 10:50 AM
BRIGGS wrote:After a lot of consideration I put this together but will need to add foreign players as time goes on.


.1 Kris Dunn PG 6-4 220
.2 Branden Ingram F 6-9 200
.3 Buddy Hield SG 6-4 215
.4 Jamal Murray G 6-5 200
.5 Denzel Valentine PG 6-5 225
.6 Malik Beasley SG 6-4 190
.7 Ben Simmons F 6-10 240
.8 Dejounte Murray PG 6-5 180
.9 Jaylen Brown F 6-7 225
10 Thon Maker F-C 7-1 240
11 Marquis Chriss F 6-10 225
12 Domantas Sabonis 6-10 245
13 A J Hammons 7-1 265
14 Stephen Zimmerman F 7-0 225
15 Brice Johnson 6-10 240
16 Diamond Stone C 6-11 260
17 Bryn Forbes G 6-3 180
18 Skal Labissierre C/F 6-11 220
19 Jakob Poetl C 7-1 245
20 Kay Felder PG 5-9 190
21 Dragen Bender F 7-1 220
22 Ben Bentil F 6-9 240
23 Patrick McCaw G 6-7 190
24 Henry Ellenson F 6-10 240
25 Daniel Hamilton G 6-8 200
26 Derrick Jones G 6-7 190
27 Tyler Ullis PG 5-9 180
28 Malcolm Brogdon G 6-5 220
29 Daytona Davis F 6-11 230
30 Isiah Whitehead PG 6-4 210
31 Perry Ellis F 6-8 225
32 Nigel Hayes F 6-7 245
33 Deandre Bembrey G 6-6 210
34 Gary Payton G 6-3 190
35 Malachi Richardson G 6-6 210
last in Wayne Selden SG 6-6 230

Which one is the guy that you made the thread about you having going in the 1st round and no other draft site had him going in the 1st round at all??

BRIGGS @ 5/12/2016 10:56 AM
callmened wrote:exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

Yeah I don't put team needs into account I just try and get a rough order of where I think the talent is

newyorker4ever @ 5/12/2016 11:56 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
callmened wrote:exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

Yeah I don't put team needs into account I just try and get a rough order of where I think the talent is

So who was that player again??

BRIGGS @ 5/12/2016 12:05 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
callmened wrote:exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

Yeah I don't put team needs into account I just try and get a rough order of where I think the talent is

So who was that player again??

Every year there is many more than 1. I think you are talking about Forbes. But therte are others this year from Derrick Jones Kay Felder Isiah Whitehead

mreinman @ 5/12/2016 7:02 PM
BRIGGS wrote:After a lot of consideration I put this together but will need to add foreign players as time goes on.


.1 Kris Dunn PG 6-4 220
.2 Branden Ingram F 6-9 200
.3 Buddy Hield SG 6-4 215
.4 Jamal Murray G 6-5 200
.5 Denzel Valentine PG 6-5 225
.6 Malik Beasley SG 6-4 190
.7 Ben Simmons F 6-10 240
.8 Dejounte Murray PG 6-5 180
.9 Jaylen Brown F 6-7 225
10 Thon Maker F-C 7-1 240
11 Marquis Chriss F 6-10 225
12 Domantas Sabonis 6-10 245
13 A J Hammons 7-1 265
14 Stephen Zimmerman F 7-0 225
15 Brice Johnson 6-10 240
16 Diamond Stone C 6-11 260
17 Bryn Forbes G 6-3 180
18 Skal Labissierre C/F 6-11 220
19 Jakob Poetl C 7-1 245
20 Kay Felder PG 5-9 190
21 Dragen Bender F 7-1 220
22 Ben Bentil F 6-9 240
23 Patrick McCaw G 6-7 190
24 Henry Ellenson F 6-10 240
25 Daniel Hamilton G 6-8 200
26 Derrick Jones G 6-7 190
27 Tyler Ullis PG 5-9 180
28 Malcolm Brogdon G 6-5 220
29 Daytona Davis F 6-11 230
30 Isiah Whitehead PG 6-4 210
31 Perry Ellis F 6-8 225
32 Nigel Hayes F 6-7 245
33 Deandre Bembrey G 6-6 210
34 Gary Payton G 6-3 190
35 Malachi Richardson G 6-6 210
last in Wayne Selden SG 6-6 230

wouldn't it be better if you never edited the initial list and you add your modifications as they come later in the thread? How can anyone respect the timeline of your predictions this way?

newyorker4ever @ 5/12/2016 8:12 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
callmened wrote:exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

Yeah I don't put team needs into account I just try and get a rough order of where I think the talent is

So who was that player again??

Every year there is many more than 1. I think you are talking about Forbes. But therte are others this year from Derrick Jones Kay Felder Isiah Whitehead

No all those guys are in other mocks being drafted. The player you were talking about you made a thread and said that that player wasn't being drafted in any mock on any site and you said you guaranteed he'd be a 1st round pick but i can't remember who it was.

BRIGGS @ 5/12/2016 9:02 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
callmened wrote:exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

Yeah I don't put team needs into account I just try and get a rough order of where I think the talent is

So who was that player again??

Every year there is many more than 1. I think you are talking about Forbes. But therte are others this year from Derrick Jones Kay Felder Isiah Whitehead

No all those guys are in other mocks being drafted. The player you were talking about you made a thread and said that that player wasn't being drafted in any mock on any site and you said you guaranteed he'd be a 1st round pick but i can't remember who it was.


Im not sure who you are talking about but my guys in order for the Knicks

15-25 Denzell Valentine Malik Beasley

26-35 Bryn Forbes Patric McCaw

36-60 Derrick Jones Ben Bentil

undrafted Daniel Ochefu(we need a third string C who can defend)

I anticipate that Phil will use our 2018 pick with low restriction to see if we can get into a mid range pick from 1 of these teams with 3 picks each--makes a ton of sense and to potentially purchase a 2. Hes been aggressive in both his previous drafts and it makes sense to do it again.

BRIGGS @ 5/19/2016 12:12 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
callmened wrote:exactly. lol. so how can you list your draft order?

unless this is your rankings of the TOP prospects regardless of teams

Yeah I don't put team needs into account I just try and get a rough order of where I think the talent is

So who was that player again??

Every year there is many more than 1. I think you are talking about Forbes. But therte are others this year from Derrick Jones Kay Felder Isiah Whitehead

No all those guys are in other mocks being drafted. The player you were talking about you made a thread and said that that player wasn't being drafted in any mock on any site and you said you guaranteed he'd be a 1st round pick but i can't remember who it was.


Im not sure who you are talking about but my guys in order for the Knicks

15-25 Denzell Valentine Malik Beasley

26-35 Bryn Forbes Patric McCaw

36-60 Derrick Jones Ben Bentil

undrafted Daniel Ochefu(we need a third string C who can defend)

I anticipate that Phil will use our 2018 pick with low restriction to see if we can get into a mid range pick from 1 of these teams with 3 picks each--makes a ton of sense and to potentially purchase a 2. Hes been aggressive in both his previous drafts and it makes sense to do it again.

Past 20 Im changing my wish list

draft picks after #20

#1 Thon Maker 7-1 230 C
#2 Derrick Jones 6-7 190 G
#3 Bryn Forbes 6-3 190 G
#4 Patric McCaw 6-7 180 G
#5 Ben Bentil 6-8 240 F

BRIGGS @ 5/25/2016 11:01 AM
Moved Jamal Murray to the number 1 pick
Moved Thon maker from 20 to 6
Moved Cat Barber from 25 to 16
earthmansurfer @ 5/25/2016 1:14 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Moved Jamal Murray to the number 1 pick
Moved Thon maker from 20 to 6
Moved Cat Barber from 25 to 16

Isn't Murray more of a pure scorer? From what I could dig up he is not quick enough to be a good creator at the next level. Not bad, a 6'5" SG. But I wonder if he is going to have problems getting his shot off at times.
And not the best defender, his offense must be out of this world to take him #1.

BRIGGS @ 5/25/2016 1:22 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Moved Jamal Murray to the number 1 pick
Moved Thon maker from 20 to 6
Moved Cat Barber from 25 to 16

Isn't Murray more of a pure scorer? From what I could dig up he is not quick enough to be a good creator at the next level. Not bad, a 6'5" SG. But I wonder if he is going to have problems getting his shot off at times.
And not the best defender, his offense must be out of this world to take him #1.

I think you are going to be able to flip him over to PG. Going through these tapes--its become clear hes the best player. This is locked in--not changing it--Im convinced hes the best player. Ive also gotten hot on Cat Barber--as Ive watched the playoffs in the NBA the affinity for high usage high scoring tall PGs is obvious. After pick #5 or so--you have Kay Felder and Cat Barber. Cat is 6-3 not the passer Kay is but I put them neck and neck with the height just taking Kay slightly.

callmened @ 5/25/2016 3:43 PM
murray is a natural PG who was forced to move to SG at kentucky. to my surprise he shot the hell out of the ball. but due to his size and lack of quickness, i think he'll play SG

to me - marquiss chriss has TREMENDOUS upside and no one is talking about him. lol

wargames @ 5/25/2016 3:48 PM
I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

BRIGGS @ 5/25/2016 4:04 PM
wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot? Also you own a 2nd rounder just as long as a 1. Weve messed around with players who cant shoot and players who dont have a defined position. Id be looking for either players who are great at atleast one thing players who can make plays WITH the dribble rim protection or defined position with all around efficient skill

wargames @ 5/25/2016 4:11 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

BRIGGS @ 5/25/2016 4:13 PM
wargames wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
wargames wrote:I like what I've seen from Malachi Richardson a lot as a guy to grab now and develop over time.

To the point I would prefer they get a late 1st to get him if he is there so they own his rights for a longer time period.

A SG who cant shoot?

That's why I said they get him and let him develop. His form is nice but he is a freshman and a bit of a gunner also he can create his own shot. Everytime I see a video of him I think if he were to wait a year he would probably be a mid 1st round pick.

I could name 15 of those and Richardson is not as high as the others. If we trade IN it cant be for a guy shooting mid 30's who isnt great at any one skill--that is what they call a 2nd round pick.

BRIGGS @ 5/25/2016 4:20 PM
callmened wrote:murray is a natural PG who was forced to move to SG at kentucky. to my surprise he shot the hell out of the ball. but due to his size and lack of quickness, i think he'll play SG

to me - marquiss chriss has TREMENDOUS upside and no one is talking about him. lol

Agree on Chriss but he realistically is not dropping below 10 and maybe should be below 5 or 6. Im not in the Simmons brigade--Id pass on Simmons for a bunch of players.

The guy who in the last few days Ive really co0me to like is Barber. I know finestrng mentioned him --if we go down the list of players from the G position who can make plays WITH the dribble OVER 6-2--hes probably the best player that we can GET slightly above Felder because of length.

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