Knicks · Here's who the Knicks met or are gonna meet with at the combine. (page 1)

newyorker4ever @ 5/14/2016 7:26 PM
nixluva @ 5/14/2016 7:35 PM
I really like a lot of these kids. Any one or two of these guys would be a good move for the Knicks, so I hope it happens.

Cheick Diallo, Kansas Jayhawks

Position: Power Forward
Age: 19 (9/13/1996)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’9″, 219 pounds, 7’4.5″
Slash Line: .569/.000/.556
Season Averages: 7.5 MPG, 3.0 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 0.6 ORPG, 0.9 BPG

Yogi Ferrell, Indiana Hoosiers

Position: Point Guard
Age: 23 (5/9/1993)
Height & Weight: 6’0″ & 178 pounds
Slash Line: .458/.420/.829
Season Averages: 34.7 MPG, 17.3 PPG, 5.6 APG, 3.8 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 2.3 3PM

Michael Gbinije, Syracuse Orange

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 23 (6/5/1992)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’6.75″, 205 pounds, 6’7.5″
Slash Line: .461/.391/.663
Season Averages: 37.9 MPG, 17.5 PPG, 4.3 APG, 4.1 RPG, 1.9 SPG, 2.5 3PM

Josh Hart, Villanova Wildcats

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 21 (3/5/1995)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’5.5″, 204 pounds, 6’8.5″
Slash Line: .513/.357/.752
Season Averages: 31.4 MPG, 15.2 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 1.9 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.4 3PM

Nigel Hayes, Wisconsin Badgers

Position: Power Forward
Age: 21 (12/16/1994)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’7.25″, 245 pounds, 7’3″
Slash Line: .368/.293/.736
Season Averages: 36.2 MPG, 15.7 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 2.0 ORPG, 3.0 APG, 1.1 SPG, 1.1 3PM

Wayne Selden Jr., Kansas Jayhawks

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 21 (9/30/1994)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’5.75″, 232 pounds, 6’10.5″
Slash Line: .474/.392/.612
Season Averages: 29.8 MPG, 13.8 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 2.6 APG, 0.7 SPG, 1.9 3PM

Isaiah Whitehead, Seton Hall Pirates

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 21 (3/8/1995)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’4.5″, 210 pounds, 6’8.75″
Slash Line: .379/.365/.760
Season Averages: 32.3 MPG, 18.2 PPG, 5.1 APG, 3.6 RPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.2 SPG, 2.4 3PM

newyorker4ever @ 5/14/2016 7:49 PM
Thanks for adding to the thread Nix and i agree that there's some good names on this list and would love to come away with at least one of them.

So where you at Briggs?? Tell me what you think about these kids.

yellowboy90 @ 5/14/2016 8:02 PM
nixluva wrote:I really like a lot of these kids. Any one or two of these guys would be a good move for the Knicks, so I hope it happens.

Cheick Diallo, Kansas Jayhawks

Position: Power Forward
Age: 19 (9/13/1996)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’9″, 219 pounds, 7’4.5″
Slash Line: .569/.000/.556
Season Averages: 7.5 MPG, 3.0 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 0.6 ORPG, 0.9 BPG

Yogi Ferrell, Indiana Hoosiers

Position: Point Guard
Age: 23 (5/9/1993)
Height & Weight: 6’0″ & 178 pounds
Slash Line: .458/.420/.829
Season Averages: 34.7 MPG, 17.3 PPG, 5.6 APG, 3.8 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 2.3 3PM

Michael Gbinije, Syracuse Orange

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 23 (6/5/1992)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’6.75″, 205 pounds, 6’7.5
Slash Line: .461/.391/.663
Season Averages: 37.9 MPG, 17.5 PPG, 4.3 APG, 4.1 RPG, 1.9 SPG, 2.5 3PM

Josh Hart, Villanova Wildcats

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 21 (3/5/1995)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’5.5″, 204 pounds, 6’8.5″
Slash Line: .513/.357/.752
Season Averages: 31.4 MPG, 15.2 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 1.9 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.4 3PM


Nigel Hayes, Wisconsin Badgers

Position: Power Forward
Age: 21 (12/16/1994)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’7.25″, 245 pounds, 7’3″
Slash Line: .368/.293/.736
Season Averages: 36.2 MPG, 15.7 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 2.0 ORPG, 3.0 APG, 1.1 SPG, 1.1 3PM

Wayne Selden Jr., Kansas Jayhawks

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 21 (9/30/1994)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’5.75″, 232 pounds, 6’10.5″
Slash Line: .474/.392/.612
Season Averages: 29.8 MPG, 13.8 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 2.6 APG, 0.7 SPG, 1.9 3PM

Isaiah Whitehead, Seton Hall Pirates

Position: Shooting Guard
Age: 21 (3/8/1995)
Height, Weight, Wingspan: 6’4.5″, 210 pounds, 6’8.75″
Slash Line: .379/.365/.760
Season Averages: 32.3 MPG, 18.2 PPG, 5.1 APG, 3.6 RPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.2 SPG, 2.4 3PM

Just wanted to bold some things that stood out. There are some things that are intriguing for most of them but some stats really stick out. On top of that when you analyze their games you can see other issues.

Cheick Diallo and Josh Hart would be my top two choices of the group. Diallo has potential and undersized rim runners can survive in this new NBA. Hart is an efficient scorer that has NBA size and length at his position. Also, I like guards that know how to play inside on the blocks. It reminds me of D.Wade and how he played a lot in the post at Marquette. I think Hart maybe a true steal in the mold of Wesley Matthews.

yellowboy90 @ 5/14/2016 8:15 PM

How great does his shooting mechanics look spotting up and in traffic? To me his base always seems square and he has a high release point on his jumpers.

Also of note, he was one of the worst statistical performers at the combine for whatever that's worth

BRIGGS @ 5/14/2016 8:20 PM
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Thanks for adding to the thread Nix and i agree that there's some good names on this list and would love to come away with at least one of them.

So where you at Briggs?? Tell me what you think about these kids.
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Out of these guys I'd take Gbingie. I have him ranked at 25

wargames @ 5/14/2016 8:43 PM
Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need.
BRIGGS @ 5/14/2016 9:21 PM
wargames wrote:Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need.

We don't have a draft pick but I love Bryn Forbes but I think I'd be interested at developing him into a triangle PG.

callmened @ 5/14/2016 9:24 PM
lots of tweeners in that list. i like Gbinije the most out of that group...we need backcourt help
nixluva @ 5/14/2016 9:36 PM
callmened wrote:lots of tweeners in that list. i like Gbinije the most out of that group...we need backcourt help

Yeah tweeners are perfect for the Triangle. It's funny how this system is set up best for guys that are between positions. Combo guards especially. This will keep NY in a good position to find talent that fits. We're almost looking for talent by ourselves compared to most teams that aren't looking for the same things the Knicks are. Some pretty good players are left out because of being between positions.
callmened @ 5/14/2016 9:58 PM
nixluva wrote:
callmened wrote:lots of tweeners in that list. i like Gbinije the most out of that group...we need backcourt help

Yeah tweeners are perfect for the Triangle. It's funny how this system is set up best for guys that are between positions. Combo guards especially. This will keep NY in a good position to find talent that fits. We're almost looking for talent by ourselves compared to most teams that aren't looking for the same things the Knicks are. Some pretty good players are left out because of being between positions.

yep. i agree

wh4t @ 5/14/2016 10:13 PM
It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis.

Gbinije & Whitehead, do it phil

bulls and celtics keeping a close eye on whitehead. they know deal. i could see him going to the bulls which can be a steal. celtics has too many guards but they're very much interested

BRIGGS @ 5/15/2016 12:12 AM
wh4t wrote:It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis.

Gbinije & Whitehead, do it phil

bulls and celtics keeping a close eye on whitehead. they know deal. i could see him going to the bulls which can be a steal. celtics has too many guards but they're very much interested

Im high on Forbes. He does one thing great right now at a high nba level. I think he can develop a little pg skill. Whitehead needs much to much development I can't justify taking a player who has as many downs as ups despite nice size and some innate skill. His efficiency is just low for consideration. I'd probably pass on gbinjie as well unless the value was in the 40s

LivingLegend @ 5/15/2016 12:14 AM
I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard.
BRIGGS @ 5/15/2016 12:35 AM
LivingLegend wrote:I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard.

He's another good player but he can't shoot. gbinjie is better than Bembry. I think we need a shooter a guy who other teams fear past the three point line that will help spread the floor. A lot of this stuff all depends on who falls if we can get a pick where it would be etc. 2 nd rd is much more attractive this year.

LivingLegend @ 5/15/2016 10:05 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard.

He's another good player but he can't shoot. gbinjie is better than Bembry. I think we need a shooter a guy who other teams fear past the three point line that will help spread the floor. A lot of this stuff all depends on who falls if we can get a pick where it would be etc. 2 nd rd is much more attractive this year.

You are alone in this opinion - give me the guy with the great feel and let him improve his shooting.

BRIGGS @ 5/15/2016 10:28 AM
LivingLegend wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard.

He's another good player but he can't shoot. gbinjie is better than Bembry. I think we need a shooter a guy who other teams fear past the three point line that will help spread the floor. A lot of this stuff all depends on who falls if we can get a pick where it would be etc. 2 nd rd is much more attractive this year.

You are alone in this opinion - give me the guy with the great feel and let him improve his shooting.

I like Bembry but Gbinjie can shoot and still do everything Bembry can dp

BRIGGS @ 5/15/2016 10:35 AM
Unless dome thing unusual happens where someone unexpected falls someone is taken early or we acquire a mid range pick my two 2 nd round picks would be Derrick Jones and Bryn Forbes. I think jones represents the highest value in terms of risk reward ratio in rd 2 by a mile and Forbes gives us what I believe will be a high end role player who will come into the nba as a top 5 3 shooter. Since we use combo guards as PGS we can work with him to transition there. He'd be like our Steve Kerr
wh4t @ 5/15/2016 10:46 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
wh4t wrote:It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis.

Gbinije & Whitehead, do it phil

bulls and celtics keeping a close eye on whitehead. they know deal. i could see him going to the bulls which can be a steal. celtics has too many guards but they're very much interested

Im high on Forbes. He does one thing great right now at a high nba level. I think he can develop a little pg skill. Whitehead needs much to much development I can't justify taking a player who has as many downs as ups despite nice size and some innate skill. His efficiency is just low for consideration. I'd probably pass on gbinjie as well unless the value was in the 40s

Forbes is nice. He's a Steve Kerr type of player the way he catches and shoots. Other than his shooting there isn't much to his game and today's NBA elite point guards attacks the rim which is one of his weaknesses. He's an undersized shooting guard whose defense is skittish and he has a 6'5'' wingspan which is short. Galloway who's a shooting guard is a better point guard than him and that isn't saying much. Whitehead has more upside. He's ambidextrous and handles the ball very well. Keeps his head up with good court vision and a great passer with good point guard playmaking abilities. He's a shooter but i agree that he still needs a lot of improvement and being efficient. He also needs to work on his turnovers too. He attacks the rim and his free throw attempts shows that. He's a great defender with a wingspan of nearly 6'9''. His wingspan is longer than Galloway & Grant and is a better defender than them. He can also carry a team because Seton Hall was off the radar for while until Whitehead showed up. I think he should stay one more year to develop and have the same effect like Kris Dunn did. He can definitely be a top 10 prospect if decides to play one more year.

BRIGGS @ 5/15/2016 11:41 AM
wh4t wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
wh4t wrote:It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis.

Gbinije & Whitehead, do it phil

bulls and celtics keeping a close eye on whitehead. they know deal. i could see him going to the bulls which can be a steal. celtics has too many guards but they're very much interested

Im high on Forbes. He does one thing great right now at a high nba level. I think he can develop a little pg skill. Whitehead needs much to much development I can't justify taking a player who has as many downs as ups despite nice size and some innate skill. His efficiency is just low for consideration. I'd probably pass on gbinjie as well unless the value was in the 40s

Forbes is nice. He's a Steve Kerr type of player the way he catches and shoots. Other than his shooting there isn't much to his game and today's NBA elite point guards attacks the rim which is one of his weaknesses. He's an undersized shooting guard whose defense is skittish and he has a 6'5'' wingspan which is short. Galloway who's a shooting guard is a better point guard than him and that isn't saying much. Whitehead has more upside. He's ambidextrous and handles the ball very well. Keeps his head up with good court vision and a great passer with good point guard playmaking abilities. He's a shooter but i agree that he still needs a lot of improvement and being efficient. He also needs to work on his turnovers too. He attacks the rim and his free throw attempts shows that. He's a great defender with a wingspan of nearly 6'9''. His wingspan is longer than Galloway & Grant and is a better defender than them. He can also carry a team because Seton Hall was off the radar for while until Whitehead showed up. I think he should stay one more year to develop and have the same effect like Kris Dunn did. He can definitely be a top 10 prospect if decides to play one more year.

Excellent post very spot on both players--and I agree with it. Here's where I differentiate on Forbes. His 3 point shooting is so good that it is already an nba weapon. He can learn combo ph while he comes off the bench to play a back up G role His defense is also much improved and he is emphasizing ball handling this offseason. He would be an immediate impact player he has to be accounted for and if you look at our make up forbes creates space for guys like wrotten grant Derrick Williams. He's a weapon and I think you always take a player who is great at one thing( which is shooting)who has good character work ethic etc that's why I love Seth curry as well naturally 6-3 guys need to be balanced with 6-6/6-8 counter parts

newyorker4ever @ 5/15/2016 12:01 PM
BRIGGS wrote:="newyorker4ever"]
Thanks for adding to the thread Nix and i agree that there's some good names on this list and would love to come away with at least one of them.

So where you at Briggs?? Tell me what you think about these kids.

Out of these guys I'd take Gbingie. I have him ranked at 25

The only guy you like out of all of these listed is Gbingie?? You don't like Whitehead at all??

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