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nixluva @ 5/20/2016 7:58 PM

Here's a short list of the restricted Free Agent Guards and Wings. People complain about paying these guys but they do have a cap on the amount they can make and it's still lower than older vets.

Rk Player Pos Age Tm G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% WS WS/48 ▾ OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
01 Tyler Johnson SG 23 MIA 36 863 13.8 .581 .289 .264 7.2 14.1 1.4 1.3 14.8 16.8 2.1 .114 0.4 0.1 0.5 0.5
02 Harrison Barnes SF 23 GSW 59 1812 12.0 .544 .316 .225 8.5 8.1 1.1 0.4 7.4 15.8 4.3 .113 0.1 -0.5 -0.4 0.7
03 Evan Fournier SF 23 ORL 71 2277 14.4 .579 .425 .249 4.9 12.7 1.9 0.1 10.8 19.7 5.0 .106 1.9 -1.4 0.6 1.5
04 Troy Daniels SG 24 CHO 39 386 14.7 .613 .626 .058 6.8 7.2 1.0 0.6 10.2 20.7 0.8 .105 1.1 -2.8 -1.7 0.0
05 Allen Crabbe SG 23 POR 74 1925 12.2 .568 .416 .158 5.6 7.2 1.5 0.6 8.1 16.6 3.9 .098 0.3 -1.1 -0.8 0.6

06 Maurice Harkless SF 22 POR 71 1263 12.6 .544 .353 .274 9.9 7.0 1.5 1.7 12.9 15.3 2.3 .086 -0.8 0.0 -0.9 0.4
07 Ian Clark SG 24 GSW 61 556 12.0 .549 .415 .170 6.5 15.6 1.4 1.6 16.3 19.9 0.9 .080 -1.5 -1.3 -2.9 -0.1
08 Langston Galloway PG 24 NYK 82 2033 11.7 .490 .381 .194 7.7 15.7 1.9 0.8 8.7 15.6 3.3 .077 -0.4 0.1 -0.4 0.8
09 Bradley Beal SG 22 WAS 50 1554 15.6 .547 .336 .219 6.2 15.5 1.5 0.5 11.1 25.4 2.5 .076 1.0 -1.7 -0.8 0.5
10 Tim Frazier PG 25 TOT 51 741 13.9 .499 .210 .323 8.2 33.3 2.2 0.2 19.9 19.4 1.0 .062 -0.7 -0.7 -1.3 0.1

11 Dion Waiters SG 24 OKC 71 1967 9.0 .490 .338 .204 5.1 9.4 1.8 0.5 13.4 17.4 1.8 .044 -1.7 -0.6 -2.4 -0.2
12 Jordan Clarkson SG 23 LAL 72 2315 14.5 .515 .277 .190 6.6 14.2 1.7 0.2 10.1 22.9 2.0 .041 0.6 -2.1 -1.5 0.3
13 Sergey Karasev SF 22 BRK 38 366 8.9 .584 .515 .379 7.7 10.6 0.8 0.4 19.8 11.8 0.3 .040 -2.2 -1.8 -4.0 -0.2
14 Markel Brown SG 24 BRK 54 772 10.9 .510 .398 .343 6.3 13.6 1.8 0.7 12.8 18.1 0.6 .040 -1.1 -1.9 -3.0 -0.2
15 Isaiah Canaan PG 24 PHI 74 1880 10.9 .527 .671 .248 4.8 11.3 1.4 0.4 10.6 19.8 1.3 .034 0.1 -2.9 -2.8 -0.4

Extremely low amount of games played:
James Ennis SF 25 TOT 22 329 17.8 .621 .513 .301 7.1 10.1 2.4 1.3 12.9 19.8 0.9 .133 3.4 -1.0 2.4 0.4
Jarell Eddie SF 24 WAS 22 99 10.8 .492 .791 .093 8.0 3.0 1.0 0.8 2.2 20.3 0.1 .047 -1.3 -4.3 -5.6 -0.1
Bryce Cotton PG 23 TOT 8 39 1.7 .400 .300 .000 0.0 10.8 3.7 0.0 33.3 16.5 -0.1 -0.168 -9.3 -2.7 -12.0 -0.1

This could be the year for the Knicks to make an offer for an RFA. It's not like we have to save money for another big time FA. I doubt any of these RFA's will garner a full Max at about $21+ mil in the 1st year of the contract.

Rough estimates:

2016-17 Bottom Tier (~$21.0 Million)

Anthony Davis (RFA) – New Orleans Pelicans

Damian Lillard (RFA) – Portland Trail Blazers

Andre Drummond (RFA) – Detroit Pistons

Hassan Whiteside – Miami HEAT

Bradley Beal (RFA) – Washington Wizards

Harrison Barnes (RFA) – Golden State Warriors

Jonas Valanciunas (RFA) – Toronto Raptors

2016-17 Middle Tier (~$25.3 Million)

Kevin Durant – Oklahoma City Thunder

Joakim Noah – Chicago Bulls

Al Horford – Atlanta Hawks

Mike Conley – Memphis Grizzlies

DeMar DeRozan (PO) – Toronto Raptors

Danilo Gallinari – Denver Nuggets

Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans

Brandon Jennings – Detroit Pistons

Nicolas Batum – Portland Trail Blazers

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projec...

mmorman @ 5/21/2016 6:33 AM

Lillard ALL DAY LONG!!!!!

BRIGGS @ 5/21/2016 6:40 AM

nixluva wrote:Here's a short list of the restricted Free Agent Guards and Wings. People complain about paying these guys but they do have a cap on the amount they can make and it's still lower than older vets.
Rk Player            Pos Age Tm   G   MP    PER   TS%   3PAr  FTr   TRB% AST%  STL% BLK% TOV% USG%  WS   WS/48 ▾ OBPM  DBPM  BPM  VORP
01 Tyler Johnson     SG  23  MIA  36   863  13.8  .581  .289  .264  7.2  14.1  1.4  1.3  14.8 16.8  2.1  .114    0.4    0.1  0.5  0.5
02 Harrison Barnes   SF  23  GSW  59  1812  12.0  .544	.316  .225  8.5  8.1   1.1  0.4  7.4  15.8  4.3  .113	 0.1   -0.5 -0.4  0.7
03 Evan Fournier     SF  23  ORL  71  2277  14.4  .579	.425  .249  4.9  12.7  1.9  0.1  10.8 19.7  5.0  .106	 1.9   -1.4  0.6  1.5
04 Troy Daniels      SG  24  CHO  39   386  14.7  .613  .626  .058  6.8  7.2   1.0  0.6  10.2 20.7  0.8  .105	 1.1   -2.8 -1.7  0.0
05 Allen Crabbe      SG  23  POR  74  1925  12.2  .568  .416  .158  5.6  7.2   1.5  0.6  8.1  16.6  3.9  .098    0.3   -1.1 -0.8  0.606 Maurice Harkless  SF  22  POR  71  1263  12.6  .544	.353  .274  9.9  7.0   1.5  1.7  12.9 15.3  2.3  .086	-0.8    0.0 -0.9  0.4
07 Ian Clark         SG  24  GSW  61   556  12.0  .549	.415  .170  6.5  15.6  1.4  1.6  16.3 19.9  0.9  .080	-1.5   -1.3 -2.9 -0.1
08 Langston Galloway PG  24  NYK  82  2033  11.7  .490	.381  .194  7.7  15.7  1.9  0.8   8.7 15.6  3.3	 .077	-0.4	0.1 -0.4  0.8
09 Bradley Beal      SG  22  WAS  50  1554  15.6  .547  .336  .219  6.2  15.5  1.5  0.5  11.1 25.4  2.5  .076    1.0   -1.7 -0.8  0.5
10 Tim Frazier	     PG  25  TOT  51   741  13.9  .499	.210  .323  8.2	 33.3  2.2  0.2  19.9 19.4  1.0	 .062	-0.7   -0.7 -1.3  0.1
11 Dion Waiters	     SG  24  OKC  71  1967  9.0   .490	.338  .204  5.1	 9.4   1.8  0.5  13.4 17.4  1.8  .044	-1.7   -0.6 -2.4 -0.2
12 Jordan Clarkson   SG  23  LAL  72  2315  14.5  .515	.277  .190  6.6  14.2  1.7  0.2  10.1 22.9  2.0  .041    0.6   -2.1 -1.5  0.3
13 Sergey Karasev    SF  22  BRK  38   366  8.9   .584	.515  .379  7.7  10.6  0.8  0.4  19.8 11.8  0.3  .040	-2.2   -1.8 -4.0 -0.2
14 Markel Brown      SG  24  BRK  54   772  10.9  .510	.398  .343  6.3  13.6  1.8  0.7  12.8 18.1  0.6  .040	-1.1   -1.9 -3.0 -0.2
15 Isaiah Canaan     PG  24  PHI  74  1880  10.9  .527  .671  .248  4.8  11.3  1.4  0.4  10.6 19.8  1.3  .034    0.1   -2.9 -2.8 -0.4
Extremely low amount of games played:
James Ennis	     SF	 25  TOT  22   329  17.8  .621	.513  .301  7.1  10.1  2.4  1.3  12.9 19.8  0.9  .133	 3.4   -1.0  2.4  0.4 
Jarell Eddie         SF  24  WAS  22    99  10.8  .492	.791  .093  8.0  3.0   1.0  0.8  2.2  20.3  0.1  .047	-1.3   -4.3 -5.6 -0.1
Bryce Cotton	     PG  23  TOT  8     39   1.7  .400	.300  .000  0.0  10.8  3.7  0.0  33.3 16.5 -0.1 -0.168	-9.3   -2.7 -12.0 -0.1
This could be the year for the Knicks to make an offer for an RFA. It's not like we have to save money for another big time FA. I doubt any of these RFA's will garner a full Max at about $21+ mil in the 1st year of the contract.
Rough estimates:
2016-17 Bottom Tier (~$21.0 Million)
Anthony Davis (RFA) – New Orleans Pelicans
Damian Lillard (RFA) – Portland Trail Blazers
Andre Drummond (RFA) – Detroit Pistons
Hassan Whiteside – Miami HEAT
Bradley Beal (RFA) – Washington Wizards
Harrison Barnes (RFA) – Golden State Warriors
Jonas Valanciunas (RFA) – Toronto Raptors
2016-17 Middle Tier (~$25.3 Million)
Kevin Durant – Oklahoma City Thunder
Joakim Noah – Chicago Bulls
Al Horford – Atlanta Hawks
Mike Conley – Memphis Grizzlies
DeMar DeRozan (PO) – Toronto Raptors
Danilo Gallinari – Denver Nuggets
Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans
Brandon Jennings – Detroit Pistons
Nicolas Batum – Portland Trail Blazers
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projec...

Seth Curry is restricted

Nalod @ 5/21/2016 9:22 AM

Harrison Barnes is only 23. This is the kind of guy they need to sign and trade. His upside on another team might be pretty high. For what he does for them he is not with Max money. This is the kind of player free agency really helps, a young guy "Stuck" on a team without the room to really grow.

Question is not is he worth it now, but is he the type of player that can blossom?

nixluva @ 5/21/2016 11:45 AM

BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Here's a short list of the restricted Free Agent Guards and Wings. People complain about paying these guys but they do have a cap on the amount they can make and it's still lower than older vets.
Rk Player            Pos Age Tm   G   MP    PER   TS%   3PAr  FTr   TRB% AST%  STL% BLK% TOV% USG%  WS   WS/48 ▾ OBPM  DBPM  BPM  VORP
01 Tyler Johnson     SG  23  MIA  36   863  13.8  .581  .289  .264  7.2  14.1  1.4  1.3  14.8 16.8  2.1  .114    0.4    0.1  0.5  0.5
02 Harrison Barnes   SF  23  GSW  59  1812  12.0  .544	.316  .225  8.5  8.1   1.1  0.4  7.4  15.8  4.3  .113	 0.1   -0.5 -0.4  0.7
03 Evan Fournier     SF  23  ORL  71  2277  14.4  .579	.425  .249  4.9  12.7  1.9  0.1  10.8 19.7  5.0  .106	 1.9   -1.4  0.6  1.5
04 Troy Daniels      SG  24  CHO  39   386  14.7  .613  .626  .058  6.8  7.2   1.0  0.6  10.2 20.7  0.8  .105	 1.1   -2.8 -1.7  0.0
05 Allen Crabbe      SG  23  POR  74  1925  12.2  .568  .416  .158  5.6  7.2   1.5  0.6  8.1  16.6  3.9  .098    0.3   -1.1 -0.8  0.606 Maurice Harkless  SF  22  POR  71  1263  12.6  .544	.353  .274  9.9  7.0   1.5  1.7  12.9 15.3  2.3  .086	-0.8    0.0 -0.9  0.4
07 Ian Clark         SG  24  GSW  61   556  12.0  .549	.415  .170  6.5  15.6  1.4  1.6  16.3 19.9  0.9  .080	-1.5   -1.3 -2.9 -0.1
08 Langston Galloway PG  24  NYK  82  2033  11.7  .490	.381  .194  7.7  15.7  1.9  0.8   8.7 15.6  3.3	 .077	-0.4	0.1 -0.4  0.8
09 Bradley Beal      SG  22  WAS  50  1554  15.6  .547  .336  .219  6.2  15.5  1.5  0.5  11.1 25.4  2.5  .076    1.0   -1.7 -0.8  0.5
10 Tim Frazier	     PG  25  TOT  51   741  13.9  .499	.210  .323  8.2	 33.3  2.2  0.2  19.9 19.4  1.0	 .062	-0.7   -0.7 -1.3  0.1
11 Dion Waiters	     SG  24  OKC  71  1967  9.0   .490	.338  .204  5.1	 9.4   1.8  0.5  13.4 17.4  1.8  .044	-1.7   -0.6 -2.4 -0.2
12 Jordan Clarkson   SG  23  LAL  72  2315  14.5  .515	.277  .190  6.6  14.2  1.7  0.2  10.1 22.9  2.0  .041    0.6   -2.1 -1.5  0.3
13 Sergey Karasev    SF  22  BRK  38   366  8.9   .584	.515  .379  7.7  10.6  0.8  0.4  19.8 11.8  0.3  .040	-2.2   -1.8 -4.0 -0.2
14 Markel Brown      SG  24  BRK  54   772  10.9  .510	.398  .343  6.3  13.6  1.8  0.7  12.8 18.1  0.6  .040	-1.1   -1.9 -3.0 -0.2
15 Isaiah Canaan     PG  24  PHI  74  1880  10.9  .527  .671  .248  4.8  11.3  1.4  0.4  10.6 19.8  1.3  .034    0.1   -2.9 -2.8 -0.4
Extremely low amount of games played:
James Ennis	     SF	 25  TOT  22   329  17.8  .621	.513  .301  7.1  10.1  2.4  1.3  12.9 19.8  0.9  .133	 3.4   -1.0  2.4  0.4 
Jarell Eddie         SF  24  WAS  22    99  10.8  .492	.791  .093  8.0  3.0   1.0  0.8  2.2  20.3  0.1  .047	-1.3   -4.3 -5.6 -0.1
Bryce Cotton	     PG  23  TOT  8     39   1.7  .400	.300  .000  0.0  10.8  3.7  0.0  33.3 16.5 -0.1 -0.168	-9.3   -2.7 -12.0 -0.1
This could be the year for the Knicks to make an offer for an RFA. It's not like we have to save money for another big time FA. I doubt any of these RFA's will garner a full Max at about $21+ mil in the 1st year of the contract.
Rough estimates:
2016-17 Bottom Tier (~$21.0 Million)
Anthony Davis (RFA) – New Orleans Pelicans
Damian Lillard (RFA) – Portland Trail Blazers
Andre Drummond (RFA) – Detroit Pistons
Hassan Whiteside – Miami HEAT
Bradley Beal (RFA) – Washington Wizards
Harrison Barnes (RFA) – Golden State Warriors
Jonas Valanciunas (RFA) – Toronto Raptors
2016-17 Middle Tier (~$25.3 Million)
Kevin Durant – Oklahoma City Thunder
Joakim Noah – Chicago Bulls
Al Horford – Atlanta Hawks
Mike Conley – Memphis Grizzlies
DeMar DeRozan (PO) – Toronto Raptors
Danilo Gallinari – Denver Nuggets
Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans
Brandon Jennings – Detroit Pistons
Nicolas Batum – Portland Trail Blazers
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projec...
Seth Curry is restricted

I thought he was a UFA. Gotta add him later when I get a chance.

martin @ 5/21/2016 12:03 PM

nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Here's a short list of the restricted Free Agent Guards and Wings. People complain about paying these guys but they do have a cap on the amount they can make and it's still lower than older vets.
Rk Player            Pos Age Tm   G   MP    PER   TS%   3PAr  FTr   TRB% AST%  STL% BLK% TOV% USG%  WS   WS/48 ▾ OBPM  DBPM  BPM  VORP
01 Tyler Johnson     SG  23  MIA  36   863  13.8  .581  .289  .264  7.2  14.1  1.4  1.3  14.8 16.8  2.1  .114    0.4    0.1  0.5  0.5
02 Harrison Barnes   SF  23  GSW  59  1812  12.0  .544	.316  .225  8.5  8.1   1.1  0.4  7.4  15.8  4.3  .113	 0.1   -0.5 -0.4  0.7
03 Evan Fournier     SF  23  ORL  71  2277  14.4  .579	.425  .249  4.9  12.7  1.9  0.1  10.8 19.7  5.0  .106	 1.9   -1.4  0.6  1.5
04 Troy Daniels      SG  24  CHO  39   386  14.7  .613  .626  .058  6.8  7.2   1.0  0.6  10.2 20.7  0.8  .105	 1.1   -2.8 -1.7  0.0
05 Allen Crabbe      SG  23  POR  74  1925  12.2  .568  .416  .158  5.6  7.2   1.5  0.6  8.1  16.6  3.9  .098    0.3   -1.1 -0.8  0.606 Maurice Harkless  SF  22  POR  71  1263  12.6  .544	.353  .274  9.9  7.0   1.5  1.7  12.9 15.3  2.3  .086	-0.8    0.0 -0.9  0.4
07 Ian Clark         SG  24  GSW  61   556  12.0  .549	.415  .170  6.5  15.6  1.4  1.6  16.3 19.9  0.9  .080	-1.5   -1.3 -2.9 -0.1
08 Langston Galloway PG  24  NYK  82  2033  11.7  .490	.381  .194  7.7  15.7  1.9  0.8   8.7 15.6  3.3	 .077	-0.4	0.1 -0.4  0.8
09 Bradley Beal      SG  22  WAS  50  1554  15.6  .547  .336  .219  6.2  15.5  1.5  0.5  11.1 25.4  2.5  .076    1.0   -1.7 -0.8  0.5
10 Tim Frazier	     PG  25  TOT  51   741  13.9  .499	.210  .323  8.2	 33.3  2.2  0.2  19.9 19.4  1.0	 .062	-0.7   -0.7 -1.3  0.1
11 Dion Waiters	     SG  24  OKC  71  1967  9.0   .490	.338  .204  5.1	 9.4   1.8  0.5  13.4 17.4  1.8  .044	-1.7   -0.6 -2.4 -0.2
12 Jordan Clarkson   SG  23  LAL  72  2315  14.5  .515	.277  .190  6.6  14.2  1.7  0.2  10.1 22.9  2.0  .041    0.6   -2.1 -1.5  0.3
13 Sergey Karasev    SF  22  BRK  38   366  8.9   .584	.515  .379  7.7  10.6  0.8  0.4  19.8 11.8  0.3  .040	-2.2   -1.8 -4.0 -0.2
14 Markel Brown      SG  24  BRK  54   772  10.9  .510	.398  .343  6.3  13.6  1.8  0.7  12.8 18.1  0.6  .040	-1.1   -1.9 -3.0 -0.2
15 Isaiah Canaan     PG  24  PHI  74  1880  10.9  .527  .671  .248  4.8  11.3  1.4  0.4  10.6 19.8  1.3  .034    0.1   -2.9 -2.8 -0.4
Extremely low amount of games played:
James Ennis	     SF	 25  TOT  22   329  17.8  .621	.513  .301  7.1  10.1  2.4  1.3  12.9 19.8  0.9  .133	 3.4   -1.0  2.4  0.4 
Jarell Eddie         SF  24  WAS  22    99  10.8  .492	.791  .093  8.0  3.0   1.0  0.8  2.2  20.3  0.1  .047	-1.3   -4.3 -5.6 -0.1
Bryce Cotton	     PG  23  TOT  8     39   1.7  .400	.300  .000  0.0  10.8  3.7  0.0  33.3 16.5 -0.1 -0.168	-9.3   -2.7 -12.0 -0.1
This could be the year for the Knicks to make an offer for an RFA. It's not like we have to save money for another big time FA. I doubt any of these RFA's will garner a full Max at about $21+ mil in the 1st year of the contract.
Rough estimates:
2016-17 Bottom Tier (~$21.0 Million)
Anthony Davis (RFA) – New Orleans Pelicans
Damian Lillard (RFA) – Portland Trail Blazers
Andre Drummond (RFA) – Detroit Pistons
Hassan Whiteside – Miami HEAT
Bradley Beal (RFA) – Washington Wizards
Harrison Barnes (RFA) – Golden State Warriors
Jonas Valanciunas (RFA) – Toronto Raptors
2016-17 Middle Tier (~$25.3 Million)
Kevin Durant – Oklahoma City Thunder
Joakim Noah – Chicago Bulls
Al Horford – Atlanta Hawks
Mike Conley – Memphis Grizzlies
DeMar DeRozan (PO) – Toronto Raptors
Danilo Gallinari – Denver Nuggets
Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans
Brandon Jennings – Detroit Pistons
Nicolas Batum – Portland Trail Blazers
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projec...
Seth Curry is restricted
I thought he was a UFA. Gotta add him later when I get a chance.

I have to tell you, I thought Seth Curry was unrestricted, didn't he opt out of his contract? Is there a good site that really keeps track of this stuff?

babyKnicks @ 5/22/2016 9:31 PM

I'm thinking a 23 years old Harrison Barnes may be just what the Dr ordered. Shifting Calderone to the 2 and turning Aaron afflalo into a veteran pg like our guy in Memphis or a young gun like we already have on the team would be pretty solid.

I like our front court of zing, melo and Stanford. I'd like a melo backup with triangle like experience.

mreinman @ 5/22/2016 9:45 PM

babyKnicks wrote:I'm thinking a 23 years old Harrison Barnes may be just what the Dr ordered. Shifting Calderone to the 2 and turning Aaron afflalo into a veteran pg like our guy in Memphis or a young gun like we already have on the team would be pretty solid.
I like our front court of zing, melo and Stanford. I'd like a melo backup with triangle like experience.

Afflalo can't play PG, the dude is one of the worst passers in the league and is/must be 80% blind.

babyKnicks @ 5/22/2016 9:54 PM

Turning into means letting him walk and replacing him.

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