Knicks · All eyes on the draft (page 1)

We don't have a pick... Phil has only had 2 drafts as president.Both drafts he made moves. His first draft he only had a second rounder and he ended up buying another. He also picked up Galloway. The next year he drafts kristaps and trades for jerian grant and trades for Willy hernangomez draft rights out the second round. You can basically expect a move from Phil on draft night

He'll get a late first or a 2nd round pick and might even end up getting two picks in that area.

One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

It wasnt a knock on phil. I simply said both did the right thing by scouting and drafting KP.

There are some nice late 2nd round guards we could use..

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

Holy Crap have you read my posts this thread? I have praised phil for his drafting. So dont accuse me of hating on phil nix. I have been a supporter of Phil from day 1 but god forbid i try to be objective ever. By the way i was just repeating what Phil said last year after the draft so instead of accusing me of not giving him credit maybe you would realize i meant BOTH phil and gaines did a great job drafting KP

Anyway back to the draft i would love to somehow get a first rounder but buying a first rounder doesnt happen much. I think toney douglas was the last i remember. Hopefully phil can pull off another willy draft and stash pick

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

Holy Crap have you read my posts this thread? I have praised phil for his drafting. So dont accuse me of hating on phil nix. I have been a supporter of Phil from day 1 but god forbid i try to be objective ever

Dude you are the one that contradicted my point by saying Phil "hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts." You seem to be imposing your own personal view onto others. Where is the proof that MOST people praise Phil's work regarding the Draft since he's been here?

There hasn't been a lot of praise about Phil's past picks in the media or from the majority of fans. KP gets the attention since he balled out this season, but that's about it. It's been an underrated aspect of what he's been doing IMO. Just do a search on the subject of Phil's adding picks every year and then compare it to the volumes of posts criticizing Phil for not doing anything. There's a lot of Media articles and posts suggesting Phil is mailing it in and not doing enough as President.

Also I never accused you of dissin Phil. What I said is that you tend to respond to anyone posting something positive IN DEFENSE of Phil, with the kind of post you made above. You seem to have an issue with people coming to Phil's defense. You seem to think he's been treated fairly so that's where we disagree.

newyorker4ever wrote:He'll get a late first or a 2nd round pick and might even end up getting two picks in that area.

Philly and Boston have late first round picks that they won't want. I'd throw cash at them to see what could happen for one of them.

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

Holy Crap have you read my posts this thread? I have praised phil for his drafting. So dont accuse me of hating on phil nix. I have been a supporter of Phil from day 1 but god forbid i try to be objective ever

Dude you are the one that contradicted my point by saying Phil "hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts." You seem to be imposing your own personal view onto others. Where is the proof that MOST people praise Phil's work regarding the Draft since he's been here?

There hasn't been a lot of praise about Phil's past picks in the media or from the majority of fans. KP gets the attention since he balled out this season, but that's about it. It's been an underrated aspect of what he's been doing IMO. Just do a search on the subject of Phil's adding picks every year and then compare it to the volumes of posts criticizing Phil for not doing anything. There's a lot of Media articles and posts suggesting Phil is mailing it in and not doing enough as President.

Also I never accused you of dissin Phil. What I said is that you tend to respond to anyone posting something positive IN DEFENSE of Phil, with the kind of post you made above. You seem to have an issue with people coming to Phil's defense. You seem to think he's been treated fairly so that's where we disagree.

Phil mostly gets attacked for not trading Tyson first round draft picks. Or finding ways like eating contracts to acquire more first round draft picks. But I do agree with Starks in the aspect that Phil don't really get critiqued for his work at the draft. At the same time Nix is right that Starks tends target a lot of pro Knicks post. Never really see him comment on anyone post if it were an anti Knick type post. Maybe he has maybe he hasn't I just don't see them.

If Thon Maker lasts in the draft past 20 and we can get a draft pick we should take him and move on. He would be BPA and the guards we can get in rd 2 to undrafted will be as good as late lottery and back

newyorknewyork wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

Holy Crap have you read my posts this thread? I have praised phil for his drafting. So dont accuse me of hating on phil nix. I have been a supporter of Phil from day 1 but god forbid i try to be objective ever

Dude you are the one that contradicted my point by saying Phil "hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts." You seem to be imposing your own personal view onto others. Where is the proof that MOST people praise Phil's work regarding the Draft since he's been here?

There hasn't been a lot of praise about Phil's past picks in the media or from the majority of fans. KP gets the attention since he balled out this season, but that's about it. It's been an underrated aspect of what he's been doing IMO. Just do a search on the subject of Phil's adding picks every year and then compare it to the volumes of posts criticizing Phil for not doing anything. There's a lot of Media articles and posts suggesting Phil is mailing it in and not doing enough as President.

Also I never accused you of dissin Phil. What I said is that you tend to respond to anyone posting something positive IN DEFENSE of Phil, with the kind of post you made above. You seem to have an issue with people coming to Phil's defense. You seem to think he's been treated fairly so that's where we disagree.

Phil mostly gets attacked for not trading Tyson first round draft picks. Or finding ways like eating contracts to acquire more first round draft picks. But I do agree with Starks in the aspect that Phil don't really get critiqued for his work at the draft. At the same time Nix is right that Starks tends target a lot of pro Knicks post. Never really see him comment on anyone post if it were an anti Knick type post. Maybe he has maybe he hasn't I just don't see them.

Just to clarify things. What I said was: "One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active."

I never suggested that people were criticizing Phil's picks. Just stating that I think it's an underrated part of what he's done here.

BRIGGS wrote:If Thon Maker lasts in the draft past 20 and we can get a draft pick we should take him and move on. He would be BPA and the guards we can get in rd 2 to undrafted will be as good as late lottery and back

Thon is not going to drop that far.....He's been on the radar since Jr HS. It will cost Phil a lot to buy into the first round where thon is available. But I think he's worth the gamble....I just don't see him lasting in the draft after 20.....

NardDogNation wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:He'll get a late first or a 2nd round pick and might even end up getting two picks in that area.

Philly and Boston have late first round picks that they won't want. I'd throw cash at them to see what could happen for one of them.

Wait. Why will they "not want" those picks? Serious question.

newyorknewyork wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

Holy Crap have you read my posts this thread? I have praised phil for his drafting. So dont accuse me of hating on phil nix. I have been a supporter of Phil from day 1 but god forbid i try to be objective ever

Dude you are the one that contradicted my point by saying Phil "hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts." You seem to be imposing your own personal view onto others. Where is the proof that MOST people praise Phil's work regarding the Draft since he's been here?

There hasn't been a lot of praise about Phil's past picks in the media or from the majority of fans. KP gets the attention since he balled out this season, but that's about it. It's been an underrated aspect of what he's been doing IMO. Just do a search on the subject of Phil's adding picks every year and then compare it to the volumes of posts criticizing Phil for not doing anything. There's a lot of Media articles and posts suggesting Phil is mailing it in and not doing enough as President.

Also I never accused you of dissin Phil. What I said is that you tend to respond to anyone posting something positive IN DEFENSE of Phil, with the kind of post you made above. You seem to have an issue with people coming to Phil's defense. You seem to think he's been treated fairly so that's where we disagree.

Phil mostly gets attacked for not trading Tyson first round draft picks. Or finding ways like eating contracts to acquire more first round draft picks. But I do agree with Starks in the aspect that Phil don't really get critiqued for his work at the draft. At the same time Nix is right that Starks tends target a lot of pro Knicks post. Never really see him comment on anyone post if it were an anti Knick type post. Maybe he has maybe he hasn't I just don't see them.

I was praising Phil in this thread. I did mention clearance gaines only because i feel he also deserves some credit along with phil for scouting KP. Secondly i consider myself a positive knick fan but sometimes if i see a flaw or a mistake with our team i point it out. I dont target positive posts so Nixluva should apologize for accusing me of that because its bullcrap. I like positivity but i also like objectivity too

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:One of the most underrated aspects of Phil's tenure has been his drafting. He's been hamstrung by past moves leaving him with only 1 pick, but he hasn't let that stop him from being active.

The fact that some teams have really loaded up on picks actually could work in the Knicks favor. They aren't likely to keep them all and that gives Phil a chance to get in there. This draft actually works out very well for the Knicks in that we need SG's and there should be a lot of good SG's and Combo Guards deep into this draft. Big, athletic guards that can hit the 3 and get out on the break should be available.

he hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts. I have said many times his best quality is viewing the draft as essential to building a good team. So that part phil gets a A for. Now he needs to work on doing a bit better in free agency and we will be good to go

and to add the one move that was easily the most important is also the move he hit a home run on.

i agree i give him credit for KP. However according to Phil Clearance gaines was the one who really pushed hard for KP

So? Who hired Gains?

This is just the same angle StarksEwing1 always takes whenever anyone says something positive about Phil or defends him. Phil is secure enough to say that he's not the best judge of raw talent. He brought in Gaines because he knows he's a talented scout that knows how to judge potential. Phil has done a good job of surrounding himself with guys he trusts and letting them do their jobs.

As I said before, Phil's aggressiveness in adding picks has not been highlighted very much and it's still early in the process of developing those players. Since they haven't all blossomed yet people tend to knock his prospects. It was too early in the process for some of these young players and hopefully we start to see some real progress in terms of player development for some of these guys next season.

Holy Crap have you read my posts this thread? I have praised phil for his drafting. So dont accuse me of hating on phil nix. I have been a supporter of Phil from day 1 but god forbid i try to be objective ever

Dude you are the one that contradicted my point by saying Phil "hasnt been underrated. Actually most people praise his view on the importance of the drafts." You seem to be imposing your own personal view onto others. Where is the proof that MOST people praise Phil's work regarding the Draft since he's been here?

There hasn't been a lot of praise about Phil's past picks in the media or from the majority of fans. KP gets the attention since he balled out this season, but that's about it. It's been an underrated aspect of what he's been doing IMO. Just do a search on the subject of Phil's adding picks every year and then compare it to the volumes of posts criticizing Phil for not doing anything. There's a lot of Media articles and posts suggesting Phil is mailing it in and not doing enough as President.

Also I never accused you of dissin Phil. What I said is that you tend to respond to anyone posting something positive IN DEFENSE of Phil, with the kind of post you made above. You seem to have an issue with people coming to Phil's defense. You seem to think he's been treated fairly so that's where we disagree.

Phil mostly gets attacked for not trading Tyson first round draft picks. Or finding ways like eating contracts to acquire more first round draft picks. But I do agree with Starks in the aspect that Phil don't really get critiqued for his work at the draft. At the same time Nix is right that Starks tends target a lot of pro Knicks post. Never really see him comment on anyone post if it were an anti Knick type post. Maybe he has maybe he hasn't I just don't see them.

I was praising Phil in this thread. I did mention clearance gaines only because i feel he also deserves some credit along with phil for scouting KP. Secondly i consider myself a positive knick fan but sometimes if i see a flaw or a mistake with our team i point it out. I dont target positive posts so Nixluva should apologize for accusing me of that because its bullcrap. I like positivity but i also like objectivity too

Uh. NO! I won't apologize. You went out of your way to contradict a rather tame comment I made about Phil's drafting and adding picks when he only had 1. I said something positive and you jumped on it. I stand by what i've said above.