Knicks · OKC time to break that duo up. (page 1)

The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

I actually think knicks1248 is right. Every time you add an impact player it changes the rest of the team as well. The Knicks would have 3 likely All Stars in KD, Melo and KP which is pretty much a potential elite Trio. Role players suddenly become much more effective in filling in between the stars. Don't get into the negative hype that the Knicks are so devoid of talent that they couldn't put the needed support around 3 All Star level players. The hardest part is getting 3 All Star Level players.

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

He should leave Okc, they have really wasted many good years for Durant and Westbrook and don't deserve to retain their superstars. They are maybe the best drafting front office in league history but have been so cheap that it has cost them. Other than Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka, they have been so cheap that they have almost become a farm system for other teams. They traded Harden and let go of Jackson for nothing, and have tried to surround their 3 guys with players on rookie contracts and cheap vets rather than invest in a supporting cast. Then they got desperate to show they weren't afraid to spent more money and matched Kanter. If Durant leaves, it has been OKC's doing and they have no one else to blame except themselves.

nixluva wrote:I actually think knicks1248 is right. Every time you add an impact player it changes the rest of the team as well. The Knicks would have 3 likely All Stars in KD, Melo and KP which is pretty much a potential elite Trio. Role players suddenly become much more effective in filling in between the stars. Don't get into the negative hype that the Knicks are so devoid of talent that they couldn't put the needed support around 3 All Star level players. The hardest part is getting 3 All Star Level players.

Even if we got Durant, which would be great, we're still gonna need some heart, grit and aptitude in the backcourt.

I can see a scenario where Clippers trade Griffin for Durant in A S&T. Griffin goes back to his Home and Durant gets the big market and teams up with Paul.

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

Think you need to re-read what I wrote.

I don't think Durant is leaving. At least not yet. Stein mentioned 9 teams plus the Thunder that he 'expects' to pursue Durant. Durant is in a great situation.

Vmart wrote:I can see a scenario where Clippers trade Griffin for Durant in A S&T. Griffin goes back to his Home and Durant gets the big market and teams up with Paul.

They have Kanter and Ibaka and Adams. Can't see them adding another big at max money.

Sangfroid wrote:

nixluva wrote:I actually think knicks1248 is right. Every time you add an impact player it changes the rest of the team as well. The Knicks would have 3 likely All Stars in KD, Melo and KP which is pretty much a potential elite Trio. Role players suddenly become much more effective in filling in between the stars. Don't get into the negative hype that the Knicks are so devoid of talent that they couldn't put the needed support around 3 All Star level players. The hardest part is getting 3 All Star Level players.

Even if we got Durant, which would be great, we're still gonna need some heart, grit and aptitude in the backcourt.

I don't really see that being as much of a problem as it may look like right now. When you have the core big 3 it won't be as hard to get a quality PG to come on board. Finding the needed role players is much easier once you have the key spots filled.

IMO KD needs to get away from Westbrook. He's not the guy that will get him over the top. As great of an individual talent as Westbrook is. He's just not the partner KD needs to win a title.

Nah Okc just needs a legit SG. Roberson is a major liability and Waiters has been a major disappointment.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

Think you need to re-read what I wrote.

What part do I need to re-read? I think a .700 team in a harder conference has an easier road to building a team that wins its conference than a .400 team in an easier conference does.

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

Think you need to re-read what I wrote.

What part do I need to re-read? I think a .700 team in a harder conference has an easier road to building a team that wins its conference than a .400 team in an easier conference does.

its possible he is referring to a team in the east that is not ny, maybe the wizards for example?

sidsanders wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

Think you need to re-read what I wrote.

What part do I need to re-read? I think a .700 team in a harder conference has an easier road to building a team that wins its conference than a .400 team in an easier conference does.

its possible he is referring to a team in the east that is not ny, maybe the wizards for example?

Oh OK. I thought he was referring to us.

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

Think you need to re-read what I wrote.

What part do I need to re-read? I think a .700 team in a harder conference has an easier road to building a team that wins its conference than a .400 team in an easier conference does.

I said the road to the finals would be easier in the East. But even with that KD would have better situations to choose(better situations then the Knicks). At no point was I saying that the Knicks would have an easier time going to the finals then OKC.

Boston has 53mil in cap space and won 48 games last yr. They could sign Durant and Hortford(or combination of players like Gasol, Bazemore etc) to pair with the #3 pick(Hield) and #10 pick. With that there only comp in the east would be the Cavs.

Washington has 45mil in cap space. They could be another team that could make the jump to ECF with Durant added. And depending on the devlopment of Porter and Oubre to go along with the chemistry of Morris and Gortat could matchup pretty well with the Cavs.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The headline this morning

Knicks expected to pursue Kevin Durant; does Kristaps Porzingis give them a chance?

Kd needs to bring his ass to the knicks, he will never win a ring playing with westbrook, westbrook will never win a championship until he's a role player like GP (gary payton) was in Miami.

I though westbrook was finally coming around, but he's a STAT grabbing junkie, he goes out and looks for triple double,tries to do everything when the game is online, foolish turnover plagued this team in the 4th quarter all season long, and he was the main culprit.

Kp, melo, and KD, and some scrappy sound role players.. I like

you don't really think that he has a better chance to win a ring with the knicks, right? His best chance is to add a couple of small pieces to OKC and get Westbrook and top Sports Shrink to follow him around. You can't get closer than they got ... they blew it but they had it in the bag.

He will have an easier road to the finals in the East. But even then there better situations he could choose.

The road from where okc currently is to the finals is a lot easier or clearer than ours is. So are many other teams' roads.

Think you need to re-read what I wrote.

What part do I need to re-read? I think a .700 team in a harder conference has an easier road to building a team that wins its conference than a .400 team in an easier conference does.

I said the road to the finals would be easier in the East. But even with that KD would have better situations to choose(better situations then the Knicks). At no point was I saying that the Knicks would have an easier time going to the finals then OKC.

Boston has 53mil in cap space and won 48 games last yr. They could sign Durant and Hortford(or combination of players like Gasol, Bazemore etc) to pair with the #3 pick(Hield) and #10 pick. With that there only comp in the east would be the Cavs.

Washington has 45mil in cap space. They could be another team that could make the jump to ECF with Durant added. And depending on the devlopment of Porter and Oubre to go along with the chemistry of Morris and Gortat could matchup pretty well with the Cavs.

Yeah, my bad. I misunderstood.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Vmart wrote:I can see a scenario where Clippers trade Griffin for Durant in A S&T. Griffin goes back to his Home and Durant gets the big market and teams up with Paul.

They have Kanter and Ibaka and Adams. Can't see them adding another big at max money.

People don't understand Griffin's game he has everything that a sf does in his game.