Knicks · J.Lin open to a return to Knicks. (page 1)

newyorker4ever @ 6/27/2016 9:30 AM
It's another guy that can't shoot it to good but as we know he does a lot of other things well and he can play both guard positions.


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crzymdups @ 6/27/2016 9:37 AM
fishmike @ 6/27/2016 9:48 AM
no.. rather have Evan Turner and I am not an Evan Turner fan.
nyk4ever @ 6/27/2016 9:51 AM
fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
fishmike @ 6/27/2016 9:52 AM
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that
Knicksfan @ 6/27/2016 10:00 AM
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

How?

nyk4ever @ 6/27/2016 10:05 AM
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

fishmike @ 6/27/2016 10:08 AM
Knicksfan wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

How?

mind powers? CAA gestapo? Maybe ask Guns? I think he's in the "Melo forced Lin out" camp. Cant give you a better answer. Sorry.
crzymdups @ 6/27/2016 10:10 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

GustavBahler @ 6/27/2016 10:10 AM
I doubt Dolan is so forgiving. Hope Lin looks for marketing opportunities elsewhere.
fishmike @ 6/27/2016 10:13 AM
crzymdups wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

its amazing when you look at it with just a slice of logic how silly some of those ideas really are. The daily Brigg's Crabbe threads were lunacy. 3 years in the NBA, dude has one solid year of the bench, scores 10ppg, shoots well and guys here think paying him just under $20mm is a smart move.
fishmike @ 6/27/2016 10:14 AM
GustavBahler wrote:I doubt Dolan is so forgiving. Hope Lin looks for marketing opportunities elsewhere.
considering they left Linsanity out of that Garden documentary but kept in several of Melo's single game scoring performances I would you MSG and Lin are not a match that will be reuniting!
nyk4ever @ 6/27/2016 10:16 AM
crzymdups wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

i totally agree about offering RFA's bad contracts, its a real risk. lin didn't have to sign that deal though, if he TRULY wanted to play for the knicks, he would not have signed that deal. bringing that deal back to dolan was the nail in the coffin him staying here. i just wish lin would have called it like it was, which was that he was more interested in getting paid (i don't blame him one iota for that) and not pretending like it was all about staying with the knicks. dude got paid and i dont think anyone here will argue that point of the deal. he tried to make himself look blameless and like the good guy in it - it's not what it was.

tj23 @ 6/27/2016 10:18 AM
I would love to get Lin at a reasonable price but 1) I think Phil is looking for stars and 2) Im scared to find out how much some of these mediocre players are going to be paid. I'd give a guy like Lin 3 yr/45M tops. I don't expect anything from Rose tbh
blkexec @ 6/27/2016 10:27 AM
Dolan has already blocked this guy from coming back. No chance! Lin needs NY more than NY needs Lin, and Dolan knows this! No chance. Dolan's ego is too heavy and pockets too deep.
WOODMANnYk @ 6/27/2016 10:32 AM
fishmike wrote:no.. rather have Evan Turner and I am not an Evan Turner fan.

Agreed.. I prefer turner over Lin..

crzymdups @ 6/27/2016 10:46 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract. That's why I shake my head when people here want to offer Crabbe the max to "steal" him from Portland. In reality, you're just overpaying. And probably hurting the development of a young player's career because they feel like they have to live up to the contract and probably can't.

i totally agree about offering RFA's bad contracts, its a real risk. lin didn't have to sign that deal though, if he TRULY wanted to play for the knicks, he would not have signed that deal. bringing that deal back to dolan was the nail in the coffin him staying here. i just wish lin would have called it like it was, which was that he was more interested in getting paid (i don't blame him one iota for that) and not pretending like it was all about staying with the knicks. dude got paid and i dont think anyone here will argue that point of the deal. he tried to make himself look blameless and like the good guy in it - it's not what it was.

If the Knicks really wanted him back they could have offered him a deal up front, instead of telling him to go find a deal. You think Lin would've turned down 3yr/$18M? Knicks never offered him a deal!

And it is pretty easy to yell about someone being interested in money... man, if someone in Houston offered me $25M, I'd tell my current job - "yo homes, smell ya later!"

Anyway, it's all in the past, but trying to blame Lin for the fact that the Knicks didn't offer him a deal and Houston did is absurd. It was poor management by the Knicks. Full stop. Anything else is spin that is pretty easy to poke holes in.

Knickoftime @ 6/27/2016 10:51 AM
crzymdups wrote:If the Knicks really wanted him back they could have offered him a deal up front, instead of telling him to go find a deal. You think Lin would've turned down 3yr/$18M? Knicks never offered him a deal!

Actually no.

Due to the intricacies of restricted free agency, they could not have done that. They didn't have the cap space and he wasn't a full Bird free agent.

CBA rules allowed them to match much more than they had to offer outright. They wanted him to go out there and sign an offer sheet that league rules would allow them to match on purpose.

But he went and go the so-called "poison pill" deal, rather than just a standard one.

jrodmc @ 6/27/2016 10:54 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If the Knicks really wanted him back they could have offered him a deal up front, instead of telling him to go find a deal. You think Lin would've turned down 3yr/$18M? Knicks never offered him a deal!

Actually no.

Due to the intricacies of restricted free agency, they could not have done that. They didn't have the cap space and he wasn't a full Bird free agent.

CBA rules allowed them to match much more than they had to offer outright. They wanted him to go out there and sign an offer sheet that league rules would allow them to match on purpose.

But he went and go the so-called "poison pill" deal, rather than just a standard one.

Stop inserting facts into the LinLove fest. We all see what a mistake it was not to have Lin here. Remember what great memories he created during the playoffs? Oh wait...

crzymdups @ 6/27/2016 10:55 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If the Knicks really wanted him back they could have offered him a deal up front, instead of telling him to go find a deal. You think Lin would've turned down 3yr/$18M? Knicks never offered him a deal!

Actually no.

Due to the intricacies of restricted free agency, they could not have done that. They didn't have the cap space and he wasn't a full Bird free agent.

CBA rules allowed them to match much more than they had to offer outright. They wanted him to go out there and sign an offer sheet that league rules would allow them to match on purpose.

But he went and go the so-called "poison pill" deal, rather than just a standard one.

How did he convince Houston to give him a poison pill. Houston did the same poison pill contract for Asik. Was that Lin's idea, too? Maybe Houston just had cap room and realized the Knicks would match if they didn't include the poison pill?

Also, I'm pretty sure the Knicks were allowed to go over the cap to offer the league average salary, which was $5.5M at that time. They're in the same position with Lance and Langston this summer.

jrodmc @ 6/27/2016 10:56 AM
crzymdups wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
fishmike wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:fuck lin. what he did to this franchise with the whole poison pill was a joke, a big FU to the fans. in no way do i want him anywhere near this team.
how soon we forget... Melo made him do that

lol... oops, how could i have left that part of history out? people took blaming things on melo to a whole new level when they blamed him for that.

On both sides it was a joke - "Lin ***MADE*** the Rockets offer him a poison pill"

In reality it was just a bad contract offered by the Rockets. That's the only way you can steal an RFA - to offer a really bad contract.

Sort of like, a ridiculous contract?

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