Knicks · Official 2016 Free Agency Thread: Durant Sweepstakes (page 2)

BRIGGS @ 6/27/2016 2:25 PM
I can understand offering KD a full max but after that Id be aggressive with a 1 year contract with Pau Gasol--for instance 1 year 16mm and offer Allan Crabbe 4 years 64mm$ If I secure Gasol--Id make Oquinn available for a Will Barton type trade.
blkexec @ 6/27/2016 3:06 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Here's another Isola tweet from today - is he hating again?

No, he's right.

A bar is only low when set at a certain height, according to one persons perspective.

But for a team that broke the all time losing record, having a meeting with a FA who already turned down teams that were better than us.....We finally start getting some mometum and respect, now the bar is set too low? Have we forgot how bad this organization has been for over a decade now. Also, when you have a headline that says, "Now KD will meet with the knick due to the Rose trade" Thats all you need to increase other players interest. If KD will meet with them, then they might have something I don't know about, let me make sure we meet with them also, before I sign somewhere else.

It's the snow ball effect.....or "Rose Ball Effect".

Knickoftime @ 6/27/2016 3:16 PM
blkexec wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Here's another Isola tweet from today - is he hating again?

No, he's right.

A bar is only low when set at a certain height, according to one persons perspective.

But for a team that broke the all time losing record, having a meeting with a FA who already turned down teams that were better than us.....We finally start getting some mometum and respect, now the bar is set too low? Have we forgot how bad this organization has been for over a decade now. Also, when you have a headline that says, "Now KD will meet with the knick due to the Rose trade" Thats all you need to increase other players interest. If KD will meet with them, then they might have something I don't know about, let me make sure we meet with them also, before I sign somewhere else.

It's the snow ball effect.....or "Rose Ball Effect".

Might just be me, but i have no interest in predicting the Rose Ball effect. I only have interest in results.

i STILL say fans have a hard time separating the way we think with the way players think.

I don't know that the Rose trade is having this transformative affect. And when I say 'I don't know' I mean that literally.

And don't mistake this as being down on the Knicks ... at all. Or down on the trade.

I'm just not much interested in the perception of the perception of the team.

They get Durant and Durant says Rose was a factor, great.

But it's meaningless without dividends, so until such a time there are any...

Nalod @ 6/27/2016 3:16 PM
I wishing Whiteside To Lakers.
Makes phil returning to LA in front office less likely.
Might be just me, but Im not feeling it that this kid is a good investment.
Anything more than 15mm year for three years is a risk.
I suppose they are all "risks" with players.
NYKBocker @ 6/27/2016 7:15 PM
fishmike wrote:I predict Whiteside and Derozan to the Lakers both for max.
Derozan stated that he wants to stay in Toronto
EwingsGlass @ 6/27/2016 7:27 PM
blkexec wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Here's another Isola tweet from today - is he hating again?

No, he's right.

A bar is only low when set at a certain height, according to one persons perspective.

But for a team that broke the all time losing record, having a meeting with a FA who already turned down teams that were better than us.....We finally start getting some mometum and respect, now the bar is set too low? Have we forgot how bad this organization has been for over a decade now. Also, when you have a headline that says, "Now KD will meet with the knick due to the Rose trade" Thats all you need to increase other players interest. If KD will meet with them, then they might have something I don't know about, let me make sure we meet with them also, before I sign somewhere else.

It's the snow ball effect.....or "Rose Ball Effect".

Moments like this make me want to re-read Deandre Jordan's take on his recruitment. Jax came prepared and had a real plan for Deandre in the Triangle. That said, Jordan can as many nice things as he wants after he says no.

CrushAlot @ 6/27/2016 7:36 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
blkexec wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Here's another Isola tweet from today - is he hating again?

No, he's right.

A bar is only low when set at a certain height, according to one persons perspective.

But for a team that broke the all time losing record, having a meeting with a FA who already turned down teams that were better than us.....We finally start getting some mometum and respect, now the bar is set too low? Have we forgot how bad this organization has been for over a decade now. Also, when you have a headline that says, "Now KD will meet with the knick due to the Rose trade" Thats all you need to increase other players interest. If KD will meet with them, then they might have something I don't know about, let me make sure we meet with them also, before I sign somewhere else.

It's the snow ball effect.....or "Rose Ball Effect".

Moments like this make me want to re-read Deandre Jordan's take on his recruitment. Jax came prepared and had a real plan for Deandre in the Triangle. That said, Jordan can as many nice things as he wants after he says no.

Jordan went where he would get the most money. It didn't take the 5th year though. Durant probably does the same unless he goes to the warriors.
EwingsGlass @ 6/27/2016 10:36 PM
If Toronto resigns Derozan, do they still have room for De Colo?

Thought of it because Adam Kennedy posted that an anonymous free agent posted the 1)Spurs 2) Raptors 3) Cavs and 4) Knicks as top choices. Kind of looks like a SG by open positions. De Colo played for both the Spurs and Raptors. Ergo; I figured this could be De Colo. Not sure who else would intentionally want to play for the Raptors, if they had a choice. Bennet maybe cause he is Canadian.

Back to the question, is anyone aware of the Raps cap space? Can they sign De Colo if they sign Derozan?

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NYKBocker @ 6/30/2016 11:01 AM
Great article from the Washington Post serving as cliff notes for this years free agency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...

NBA free agency guide: Every available player, latest rumors, plus options for Knicks, Lakers, Wizards
By Washington Post Staff June 30 at 9:33 AM

What will Phil Jackson do in free agency? The Knicks remain a fascination. (Frank Franklin II/Associated Press)

It’s the most wonderful time of the year for basketball geeks, the NBA’s version of Christmas in July: free agency.

Keep up on all the whirlwind signings and rumors with The Post’s NBA free agency guide, which will be updated throughout July.

What you need to know | Latest rumors | Analysis | Player movement tracker

But first, a few words . . .

Teams can begin negotiating with players starting on Friday, July 1, and plenty of attention, of course, will be paid to what superstar free agent Kevin Durant decides to do. But wait! There are plenty of other juicy story lines this summer.

As the NBA watches salary cap space skyrocket to historic heights, thanks to an influx of cash from a new TV deal, here’s what to really watch for: Money being thrown around, mistakes surely being made and, quite possibly, new contenders forming. (We suggest you follow The Post’s national NBA writer Tim Bontemps on Twitter for even more up-to-the-minute news and analysis.)

Important to keep in mind: The NBA’s moratorium period runs through July 7 (see below), so any contracts agreed upon before that date are merely handshake agreements. (May we never forget DeAndre Jordan reneging on his agreement with the Dallas Mavericks to re-sign with the Los Angeles Clippers last summer.)

With that in mind, let the fun begin.

THE ESSENTIALS: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

Free agency start time: Friday, July 1 at 12:01 a.m.

Salary cap: $94 million (projected)

Free agent moratorium end date: Thursday, July 7 at 12:01 a.m. (when restricted free agents can sign offer sheets, unrestricted free agents can officially sign contracts they’ve agreed to with teams, and trades made involving 2016-17 cap figures can be made official).

What is a “restricted” free agent? Any player who is either on the fourth year of his rookie scale contract as a first round pick (example: Bradley Beal) or a player who wasn’t drafted in the first round but has played three or fewer seasons in the NBA (example: Matthew Dellavedova).

What is an “Early Bird” free agent? Any player who has played two years in the NBA with one team and is a restricted free agent (example: Jordan Clarkson). This is now known as the Gilbert Arenas Rule, after the Washington Wizards successfully signed Arenas away from the Golden State Warriors in 2003, leading to a rule change.

Some players who are Early Bird free agents aren’t held to these standards, because they are veterans who have been in the NBA more than two years, but played with one team for two years. The most prominent example this summer is Hassan Whiteside.

Who is an “unrestricted” free agent? Anyone else.

Max salary ranges (assuming a $94 million salary cap; number is first-year of max salary):

Players with 0-6 years of experience (examples: Bradley Beal, Andre Drummond): $22.2 million
Players with 7-9 years of experience (examples: Kevin Durant, Al Horford): $26.6 million
Players with 10+ years of experience (example: LeBron James): $31 million

Top 50 NBA free agents: Kevin Durant … then everyone else

With the league’s salary cap set to jump over 30 percent this summer — going from $70 million this past season to at least $94 million next season — players are going to be in line to make massive amounts of money. Here’s our ranking of who should get that money.

Miss out on a big fish in free agency? Here’s what your backup plan should be.

The reality is not every team will get a chance to bring in a true superstar, and even more simply can’t afford their asking price. That means teams will be scrambling to implement their backup plans. If that’s the case, here’s who they should target.

Shopper’s guide to this year’s NBA free agents

A need in free agency may be more specific — a playmaker to augment an already talented offensive scheme, for instance, or perhaps defensive help in the form of an imposing rim protector. No matter what a team needs, here is a specialist who is available in free agency.

LATEST RUMORS AND RUMBLINGS

Joakim Noah expected to sign with New York Knicks

LeBron James opts out of Cavs contract, as expected

Wizards won’t leave any money on table during free agency

Dwyane Wade is reportedly ready to hit free agent market

Carmelo Anthony: Knicks’ meeting with Kevin Durant ‘has already taken place’

Hawks reportedly want in on the Kevin Durant sweepstakes

Will Kevin Durant meet with the Knicks? Sure doesn’t sound like it.

Carmelo Anthony has a ‘list’ of players he wants the Knicks to target

DeMar DeRozan wants to stay with Raptors, but keep an eye on the Lakers

Harrison Barnes must watch as Warriors first chase Kevin Durant

Al Horford, Nicolas Batum and Mike Conley seem likely to re-sign with current teams

ANALYSIS AND BEST FITS

Brewer: The Wizards can win in free agency. Here’s how.

Steinberg: Wizards owe it to John Wall to make this the ‘biggest summer’

Lakers need to get a star center in free agency

Knicks don’t have a lot of options but need players for the triangle offense

Three teams that should give Dwight Howard a serious look in free agency

Kevin Durant did Wizards a favor. Now they can focus on these free agents.

Kevin Durant won’t meet with Wizards. Fans can finally move on.

Jeremy Lin had a nice bounce-back year. How much is he worth now?

Yes, the Warriors lost the NBA Finals. No, they don’t need Kevin Durant.

Brewer: Wizards spent NBA draft on sideline. That can’t happen in free agency.

Three teams that are a better fit for Kevin Love than the Cavs

Lacking other options, Bradley Beal might be the Wizards’ best choice

Bradley Beal wants a max contract, but he’s not worth $23 million to start

NBA draft review: Pick-by-pick analysis

PLAYER MOVEMENT TRACKER

NYKBocker @ 6/30/2016 11:02 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I can understand offering KD a full max but after that Id be aggressive with a 1 year contract with Pau Gasol--for instance 1 year 16mm and offer Allan Crabbe 4 years 64mm$ If I secure Gasol--Id make Oquinn available for a Will Barton type trade.

I think you have to hold off on any offers to other free agents until you get a definitive answer from KD.

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