Knicks · Updated Knicks cap with Jennings signing (page 1)

crzymdups @ 7/4/2016 9:59 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nyk/sa...

Doesn't include an offer to Hernangomez, but maybe they can fit that into the $1.9M of cap room. Then we can still go over the cap to re-sign Langston and Lance (Who has already agreed to re-sign)


Player	Roster	2016-17	2017-18	2018-19	2019-20	2020-21	Cap Hold	Insider Info	Salary Protection
Carmelo Anthony	Roster	24,559,380	26,243,760	27,928,140	34,917,400	-	2019		2018 Player Option
Derrick Rose	Roster	21,323,252	22,389,415	-	-	-	2017		Full
Joakim Noah	Roster	16,627,635	17,375,878	18,124,122	18,872,365	28,707,260	2020		Full
Courtney Lee	Roster	11,241,218	11,747,073	12,251,927	12,758,782	16,586,417	2020		Full
Brandon Jenning	Roster	5,000,000	-	-	-	-	2017		Full
Kristaps Porzin	Roster	4,317,720	4,503,600	5,697,054	14,242,635	-	2019		3rd Year Option
Kyle O'Quinn	Roster	3,918,750	4,087,500	4,256,250	8,086,875	-	2019	-	2018 Player Option
Justin Holiday	Roster	1,015,696	1,014,746	-	-	-	2017		Full
Lance Thomas	Free Agent	2,127,985	-	-	-	-	2016		-
Langston Gallo	Free Agent	980,431	-	-	-	-	2016		-


Salaries	2016-17	2017-18	2018-19	2019-20	2020-21
Guaranteed Salaries	88,003,651	59,454,211	62,560,439	31,631,147	-
Dead Money	-	-	-	-	-
Non-Guaranteed	-	4,503,600	5,697,054	-	-
Free Agent Cap Holds	3,108,416	29,404,161	-	57,246,910	45,293,677
Incomplete Roster Charge	1,086,942	2,249,972	4,075,260	4,217,899	6,025,570
Tax Variance	-	-	-	-	-
Salaries: Cap	92,199,009	95,611,944	72,332,753	93,095,956	51,319,247
Salaries: Tax	92,199,009	95,611,944	72,332,753	93,095,956	51,319,247
Salary Cap	94,143,000	107,000,000	105,000,000	106,000,000	106,000,000
Luxury Tax	113,287,000	127,000,000	126,000,000	129,000,000	129,000,000
Cap Space	1,943,991	11,388,056	32,667,247	12,904,044	54,680,753
Tax Room	21,087,991	31,388,056	53,667,247	35,904,044	77,680,753
fishmike @ 7/4/2016 10:02 PM
We have a GOOD squad. God imagine a healthy squad come playoffs.. KP/Noah patrolling the paint, Rose/Melo creating and devastating.

Im feeling pretty good about this roster in year 3 here for Phil

crzymdups @ 7/4/2016 10:04 PM
fishmike wrote:We have a GOOD squad. God imagine a healthy squad come playoffs.. KP/Noah patrolling the paint, Rose/Melo creating and devastating.

Im feeling pretty good about this roster in year 3 here for Phil

It seems like a total philosophy change, but I'm completely on board with it. IF they're healthy, maybe lightning in a bottle? If not? We get a solid draft pick in 2017 and aren't tied to Rose or Jennings.

GustavBahler @ 7/4/2016 10:09 PM
fishmike wrote:We have a GOOD squad. God imagine a healthy squad come playoffs.. KP/Noah patrolling the paint, Rose/Melo creating and devastating.

Im feeling pretty good about this roster in year 3 here for Phil

Will be important to keep the starters from getting too taxed, a good bench can get that done. Still worried about year 3 on this course, but not to the point that I cant enjoy the Knicks representing again.

meloshouldgo @ 7/4/2016 10:43 PM
I don't get it. Didn't we already offer contracts to Baker and Plumlee? Why aren't those include?
crzymdups @ 7/4/2016 10:44 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:I don't get it. Didn't we already offer contracts to Baker and Plumlee? Why aren't those include?

Partial guarantees only... I think... I'm not sure how it works...

EwingsGlass @ 7/4/2016 10:45 PM
crzymdups wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:I don't get it. Didn't we already offer contracts to Baker and Plumlee? Why aren't those include?

Partial guarantees only... I think... I'm not sure how it works...

Thats my take. 1/9 from 3 makes Baker less guaranteed, IMO.

RonRon @ 7/5/2016 12:06 AM
so we no longer have the ability to resign Derrick William and the 20% raise from his 5m deal?
crzymdups @ 7/5/2016 12:08 AM
RonRon wrote:so we no longer have the ability to resign Derrick William and the 20% raise from his 5m deal?

No - we renounced him. I don't think we can bring him back unless we create room by moving KOQ.

RonRon @ 7/5/2016 12:11 AM
only player I think I would rather have than Jennings is Ish Smith at 3year 18m because of the health/youth and having a 3year contract friendly deal but this may be also because we want the financial flexibility for our upcoming years

We do not have any OVERPAID talent that are NON TRADEABLE assets (assuming they do not get hurt with us)
Players like Noah, Lee, Jennings, Lance Thomas should all be tradeable if we choose do this year or down the road...
Well, we have to wait and see on Noah....

RonRon @ 7/5/2016 12:12 AM
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:so we no longer have the ability to resign Derrick William and the 20% raise from his 5m deal?

No - we renounced him. I don't think we can bring him back unless we create room by moving KOQ.

Thanks for the response, crazydps

same for Seraphin and the rest I suppose?

So 1.9m + room exemption?

no MLE for sure right?

crzymdups @ 7/5/2016 12:18 AM
RonRon wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:so we no longer have the ability to resign Derrick William and the 20% raise from his 5m deal?

No - we renounced him. I don't think we can bring him back unless we create room by moving KOQ.

Thanks for the response, crazydps

same for Seraphin and the rest I suppose?

So 1.9m + room exemption?

no MLE for sure right?

Yeah, no MLE because we're under the cap when FA starts.

We do have ~$2M in room, the room exception of $2.9M, AND we still have the ability to offer Galloway a contract up to $6M a year the same way we did for Lance, even though we rescinded his QO. So, I think we're in solid shape.

This link explains pretty well - http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2016/7...

Caseloads @ 7/5/2016 12:20 AM
baker and plumlee are training camp invitees-guarantees. if they get past camp, then there are other cliffs before fully guaranteed as of March 1st, 2017 or something.
Knickoftime @ 7/5/2016 12:22 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:I don't get it. Didn't we already offer contracts to Baker and Plumlee? Why aren't those include?

Because they are only being offered minimal deals, which you can always offer regardless of your cap status.

They are cap neutral.

yellowboy90 @ 7/5/2016 12:33 AM
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:so we no longer have the ability to resign Derrick William and the 20% raise from his 5m deal?

No - we renounced him. I don't think we can bring him back unless we create room by moving KOQ.

Thanks for the response, crazydps

same for Seraphin and the rest I suppose?

So 1.9m + room exemption?

no MLE for sure right?

Yeah, no MLE because we're under the cap when FA starts.

We do have ~$2M in room, the room exception of $2.9M, AND we still have the ability to offer Galloway a contract up to $6M a year the same way we did for Lance, even though we rescinded his QO. So, I think we're in solid shape.

This link explains pretty well - http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2016/7...


Good news on the gallo front. They still could avoided this by sitting him a game or two during the season to keep the ability to match.

I doubt Gallo gets an offer over $5m but who really knows.

Knickoftime @ 7/5/2016 12:34 AM
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
RonRon wrote:so we no longer have the ability to resign Derrick William and the 20% raise from his 5m deal?

No - we renounced him. I don't think we can bring him back unless we create room by moving KOQ.

Thanks for the response, crazydps

same for Seraphin and the rest I suppose?

So 1.9m + room exemption?

no MLE for sure right?

Yeah, no MLE because we're under the cap when FA starts.

We do have ~$2M in room, the room exception of $2.9M, AND we still have the ability to offer Galloway a contract up to $6M a year the same way we did for Lance, even though we rescinded his QO. So, I think we're in solid shape.

This link explains pretty well - http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2016/7...

Ah, that's fascinating stuff.

You can learn something new about the cap every day.

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