Knicks · We loaded up on players who were hurt and a bunch that have no history (page 3)
nixluva wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:There is a TON of upside on this roster. IMO a lot of this is about Hornacek's ability to reach and influence his players. He was able to mesh his team and get them to play his brand of ball in his rookie year and if he does that here with this talent it will make a huge difference. His ability to play Dragic and Bledsoe together was brilliant work. We have to hope he can be just as successful here with these players.Is there a team that Hornacek has coached that won a lot of playoff games or something? The last time I checked he has a negative record and no playoff wins,.
You're right. I do think he has an excellent philosophy based on what I've read though.
Yes I do like his Philosophy. Kerr admitted that he stole plays from Hornacek and that he was an inspiration for how he would run the Warriors. Kerr has great respect for Hornacek as a coach!!!My point was that he got his team to overachieve and perform much more efficiently. No point in trying to diminish the work he did with a team that wasn't expected to do much. I blame a lot of the issues in PHX on their front office.
Briggs I made no claim that Hornacek won a lot of playoff games. If you've got a specific issue with Hornacek as a coach then present that but using the old no playoffs angle is weak. There's a lot of things that can lead to him not making the playoffs that doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I think Hornacek may have the horses this time to get there. In fact I think he has enough talent to preserve his vets so that they don't have to overexert themselves. There will be rest days for sure and I think we have enough talent to do that effectively.
JH has potential and I like the hiring a lot but again, he has a lot to prove. The year he won 48 games he was great and in contention for COY but it unravelled badly and we don't know exactly what he did or did not do to exacerbate that.
Woody won 54 games here and that was great but then it all fell apart too.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:There is a TON of upside on this roster. IMO a lot of this is about Hornacek's ability to reach and influence his players. He was able to mesh his team and get them to play his brand of ball in his rookie year and if he does that here with this talent it will make a huge difference. His ability to play Dragic and Bledsoe together was brilliant work. We have to hope he can be just as successful here with these players.Is there a team that Hornacek has coached that won a lot of playoff games or something? The last time I checked he has a negative record and no playoff wins,.
You're right. I do think he has an excellent philosophy based on what I've read though.
Yes I do like his Philosophy. Kerr admitted that he stole plays from Hornacek and that he was an inspiration for how he would run the Warriors. Kerr has great respect for Hornacek as a coach!!!My point was that he got his team to overachieve and perform much more efficiently. No point in trying to diminish the work he did with a team that wasn't expected to do much. I blame a lot of the issues in PHX on their front office.
Briggs I made no claim that Hornacek won a lot of playoff games. If you've got a specific issue with Hornacek as a coach then present that but using the old no playoffs angle is weak. There's a lot of things that can lead to him not making the playoffs that doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I think Hornacek may have the horses this time to get there. In fact I think he has enough talent to preserve his vets so that they don't have to overexert themselves. There will be rest days for sure and I think we have enough talent to do that effectively.
JH has potential and I like the hiring a lot but again, he has a lot to prove. The year he won 48 games he was great and in contention for COY but it unravelled badly and we don't know exactly what he did or did not do to exacerbate that.
Woody won 54 games here and that was great but then it all fell apart too.
What you meant to say was that YOU don't know exactly what he did or did not do to exacerbate that, the rest of anyone who either was watching closely or read up on the timeline of Hornacek had a good feel of bad roster turnover, Morris twin debacle caused by trading one of them (i.e. GM) etc.
martin wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:There is a TON of upside on this roster. IMO a lot of this is about Hornacek's ability to reach and influence his players. He was able to mesh his team and get them to play his brand of ball in his rookie year and if he does that here with this talent it will make a huge difference. His ability to play Dragic and Bledsoe together was brilliant work. We have to hope he can be just as successful here with these players.Is there a team that Hornacek has coached that won a lot of playoff games or something? The last time I checked he has a negative record and no playoff wins,.
You're right. I do think he has an excellent philosophy based on what I've read though.
Yes I do like his Philosophy. Kerr admitted that he stole plays from Hornacek and that he was an inspiration for how he would run the Warriors. Kerr has great respect for Hornacek as a coach!!!My point was that he got his team to overachieve and perform much more efficiently. No point in trying to diminish the work he did with a team that wasn't expected to do much. I blame a lot of the issues in PHX on their front office.
Briggs I made no claim that Hornacek won a lot of playoff games. If you've got a specific issue with Hornacek as a coach then present that but using the old no playoffs angle is weak. There's a lot of things that can lead to him not making the playoffs that doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I think Hornacek may have the horses this time to get there. In fact I think he has enough talent to preserve his vets so that they don't have to overexert themselves. There will be rest days for sure and I think we have enough talent to do that effectively.
JH has potential and I like the hiring a lot but again, he has a lot to prove. The year he won 48 games he was great and in contention for COY but it unravelled badly and we don't know exactly what he did or did not do to exacerbate that.
Woody won 54 games here and that was great but then it all fell apart too.
What you meant to say was that YOU don't know exactly what he did or did not do to exacerbate that, the rest of anyone who either was watching closely or read up on the timeline of Hornacek had a good feel of bad roster turnover, Morris twin debacle caused by trading one of them (i.e. GM) etc.
we know what we read and it certainly looks like the moves that were made were a detriment to him and that the front office did not back him. We don't know what else happen or how he managed the situation and if he could have done a better job. We can make excused for Woody the season after 54 but we know that of course it was deeper than that.
As I said, I like (loved) the hire because I what he stands for and how he runs an offense. I am not sure how good he it at managing ego's but I hope that whatever happened, he learned from it and can be successful here.
Either way, he is far from proven. I don't think anyone can argue that. His resume is way too short and a bit extreme.