Knicks · Ot: anyone else finding it hard to root for Durant on team USA (page 1)

What a duche I can't stand him, and I was rooting for team USA!! But I just wish he was on the pine all game long ... He's not needed and he's prob hated by all his teammates except dray,and Klay

Anyone else wishing he was not on the team he's a total sell out

Again can't beat um join um even if warriors win the chip it won't mean anything other then a bought chip.

Yeah I feel the same way. Its like you're disappointed. He's was the anti Lebron and now he's worse.

He sold his soul and took the easy way out. Deserted his team, his town and his teammates. I can never look at him the same way again.

EnySpree wrote:Yeah I feel the same way. Its like you're disappointed. He's was the anti Lebron and now he's worse.

I know, Its even worse he made that decision after Westbrook took the extension . You know Westbrook was saying "I'm staying"... Durant is the ultimate villin, I hope opposing teams boo him every second he touches the ball ...

Again what a sell out, not only a sell out but to go to your top rival team, man he really screwed his image up ... to the point we are rooting against him when he plays for our country ... Also may I say what a ball hog, I was like "pass the ball and stop shooting so much ya duche"!!!

A lot of people think there is no greatness in NBA without the chip...
Durant is no exception. He is going for it no matter the cost.
But in my books greatness is more that a chip...
Integrity and loyalty to the game is essential.
We'll see how bbal goods will look at this...
KD is great player but will he be a great man?

fitzfarm wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Yeah I feel the same way. Its like you're disappointed. He's was the anti Lebron and now he's worse.

I know, Its even worse he made that decision after Westbrook took the extension . You know Westbrook was saying "I'm staying"... Durant is the ultimate villin, I hope opposing teams boo him every second he touches the ball ...

Again what a sell out, not only a sell out but to go to your top rival team, man he really screwed his image up ... to the point we are rooting against him when he plays for our country ... Also may I say what a ball hog, I was like "pass the ball and stop shooting so much ya duche"!!!

I agree about it being hard to root for him. Also, he has been so protected from the press up until now. I think the gloves are off now.

Nope

I take Ewing any day before Durant, even Ewing does not have a chip (so does KD as of now).

stopstandthere wrote:I take Ewing any day before Durant, even Ewing does not have a chip (so does KD as of now).

Agreed Ewing all day true leader and warrior ! Durant seems to crumble in big games, cat take physical play . Ewing flourished in big games unfortunately so did Jordan .. Ewing in my eyes is more of a champion then Lebron who bought all of his chips, esp in Miami .. I'll give him credit for this last one.

If Ewing had Irving and love he'd be a champion if he had wade and bosh he'd be achampion ...

His loyalty will never be forgotten in my eyes Ewing is the only champion/warrior we've had in 30 years. His number will hang in the rafters for ever

Don't think Durant Warriors or Lebron heat will get there numbers in the rafters . Just bought very forgettable/hated chips .

Now that Lebron brought it to Cleveland I bet he wishes he never left.. Dude should have been a cav for life..

yellowboy90 wrote:Nope

exactly

not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

you may not be aware that durant is an advanced stat player that prizes efficiency, and efficiency is best represented by TS%. just google "justin zormelo." the issue in okc has been that his teammate is the anti- efficient player. in fact westbrook is a volume shooter and essentially a gambler. and you just don't win titles that way. moreoever, westbrook is a point guard whose usage hovers around 32% while taking about 20 shots a game. he detracts from his teammates, especially durant. in that series i believe durant had had just about enough of westbrook:

game 1 he shot 7-21 , missing 14 shots. TS% is 49.7 W
game 2 he shot 5-14 , missing 9 shots. TS% is 49.4 L
game 3 he shot 10-19, missing 9 shots. TS% is 62.9 W
game 4 he shot 12-27, missing 15 shots. TS% is 59.0 W
game 5 he shot 11-28, missing 17 shots. TS% is 48.5 L
game 6 he shot 10-27, missing 17 shots. TS% is 44.6 L
game 7 and shot 7-21, missing 14 shots. TS% is 48.5 L

durant's "team" didn't choke so much as westbrook was just being the whole show, wherein he was 1-4 in games where his TS% was below 50, and 2-0 where his TS% was closer to 60.

Then there was Durant, who represented everything that went wrong for the Thunder in their three consecutive losses. There's a fine line between trusting your superstars and having your offense devolve into miserable hero-ball in the playoffs. Oklahoma City did a fine job of treading that line for the first four games. But with the Warriors on the ropes, Oklahoma City seemed desperate to have Durant carry the day. And with the playcalling lacking in creativity, Durant was pretty bad in the last two games of this series. He forced himself into contested jumpers and seemed disinterested in making use of any screen that wasn't a pindown at the elbow. As a result, his team is headed home for the summer.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/golde...
Close out games for Durant: Game 5 12-31
Game 6 10-31
Game 7 10-19

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

you may not be aware that durant is an advanced stat player that prizes efficiency, and efficiency is best represented by TS%. just google "justin zormelo." the issue in okc has been that his teammate is the anti- efficient player. in fact westbrook is a volume shooter and essentially a gambler. and you just don't win titles that way. moreoever, westbrook is a point guard whose usage hovers around 32% while taking about 20 shots a game. he detracts from his teammates, especially durant. in that series i believe durant had had just about enough of westbrook:

game 1 he shot 7-21 , missing 14 shots. TS% is 49.7 W
game 2 he shot 5-14 , missing 9 shots. TS% is 49.4 L
game 3 he shot 10-19, missing 9 shots. TS% is 62.9 W
game 4 he shot 12-27, missing 15 shots. TS% is 59.0 W
game 5 he shot 11-28, missing 17 shots. TS% is 48.5 L
game 6 he shot 10-27, missing 17 shots. TS% is 44.6 L
game 7 and shot 7-21, missing 14 shots. TS% is 48.5 L

durant's "team" didn't choke so much as westbrook was just being the whole show, wherein he was 1-4 in games where his TS% was below 50, and 2-0 where his TS% was closer to 60.

All those stats and facts that you want to put out there still puts Durant on the best team in the nba after he lost to them in the playoffs... I don't even get why you have to reach so far just to make a point. What are you his cousin?

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

you may not be aware that durant is an advanced stat player that prizes efficiency, and efficiency is best represented by TS%. just google "justin zormelo." the issue in okc has been that his teammate is the anti- efficient player. in fact westbrook is a volume shooter and essentially a gambler. and you just don't win titles that way. moreoever, westbrook is a point guard whose usage hovers around 32% while taking about 20 shots a game. he detracts from his teammates, especially durant. in that series i believe durant had had just about enough of westbrook:

game 1 he shot 7-21 , missing 14 shots. TS% is 49.7 W
game 2 he shot 5-14 , missing 9 shots. TS% is 49.4 L
game 3 he shot 10-19, missing 9 shots. TS% is 62.9 W
game 4 he shot 12-27, missing 15 shots. TS% is 59.0 W
game 5 he shot 11-28, missing 17 shots. TS% is 48.5 L
game 6 he shot 10-27, missing 17 shots. TS% is 44.6 L
game 7 and shot 7-21, missing 14 shots. TS% is 48.5 L

durant's "team" didn't choke so much as westbrook was just being the whole show, wherein he was 1-4 in games where his TS% was below 50, and 2-0 where his TS% was closer to 60.

The amazing thing about looking at the numbers in games 5 and 6 is that Durant took 7 more shots than Westbrook and missed 6 more than him. Durant missed a total of 40 shots in two consecutive close out games.

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

you may not be aware that durant is an advanced stat player that prizes efficiency, and efficiency is best represented by TS%. just google "justin zormelo." the issue in okc has been that his teammate is the anti- efficient player. in fact westbrook is a volume shooter and essentially a gambler. and you just don't win titles that way. moreoever, westbrook is a point guard whose usage hovers around 32% while taking about 20 shots a game. he detracts from his teammates, especially durant. in that series i believe durant had had just about enough of westbrook:

game 1 he shot 7-21 , missing 14 shots. TS% is 49.7 W
game 2 he shot 5-14 , missing 9 shots. TS% is 49.4 L
game 3 he shot 10-19, missing 9 shots. TS% is 62.9 W
game 4 he shot 12-27, missing 15 shots. TS% is 59.0 W
game 5 he shot 11-28, missing 17 shots. TS% is 48.5 L
game 6 he shot 10-27, missing 17 shots. TS% is 44.6 L
game 7 and shot 7-21, missing 14 shots. TS% is 48.5 L

durant's "team" didn't choke so much as westbrook was just being the whole show, wherein he was 1-4 in games where his TS% was below 50, and 2-0 where his TS% was closer to 60.

All those stats and facts that you want to put out there still puts Durant on the best team in the nba after he lost to them in the playoffs... I don't even get why you have to reach so far just to make a point. What are you his cousin?

the answer to your question is "no." now can you answer my question: if you're durant, would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

you may not be aware that durant is an advanced stat player that prizes efficiency, and efficiency is best represented by TS%. just google "justin zormelo." the issue in okc has been that his teammate is the anti- efficient player. in fact westbrook is a volume shooter and essentially a gambler. and you just don't win titles that way. moreoever, westbrook is a point guard whose usage hovers around 32% while taking about 20 shots a game. he detracts from his teammates, especially durant. in that series i believe durant had had just about enough of westbrook:

game 1 he shot 7-21 , missing 14 shots. TS% is 49.7 W
game 2 he shot 5-14 , missing 9 shots. TS% is 49.4 L
game 3 he shot 10-19, missing 9 shots. TS% is 62.9 W
game 4 he shot 12-27, missing 15 shots. TS% is 59.0 W
game 5 he shot 11-28, missing 17 shots. TS% is 48.5 L
game 6 he shot 10-27, missing 17 shots. TS% is 44.6 L
game 7 and shot 7-21, missing 14 shots. TS% is 48.5 L

durant's "team" didn't choke so much as westbrook was just being the whole show, wherein he was 1-4 in games where his TS% was below 50, and 2-0 where his TS% was closer to 60.

All those stats and facts that you want to put out there still puts Durant on the best team in the nba after he lost to them in the playoffs... I don't even get why you have to reach so far just to make a point. What are you his cousin?

the answer to your question is "no." now can you answer my question: if you're durant, would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

The answer to that question should have been answered by management... they never put the correct mix around the two players... that's why Durant should move to a different team. The franchise had proven that is more concerned with saving money than building a championship team.

If I were Durant I would have left too. You can't really fault him for going to the surest thing especially since he could sign there outright.... as a man and a competitor, I would not have went to Golden State. I would have went to the eastern conference to a team like Boston, Wizards or even Toronto. As a fan I could respect that. If I was a player I could respect myself better with that decision

I have no problem with him. This is a different time. Players join forces to form super teams. It started with Miami and Cleveland if you want to blame someone for this its LeBron he set the precedence for this. Durant wants to win a title and that's fine by me. Besides if you guys haven't figured it out by now NBA=WWF.

I'd still take Durant on the Knicks without a second thought.

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:not watching the games until there's some actual competition, but durant made the right decision. he knew he could not win a title playing alongside westbrook, who for all his numbers, doesn't make others around him better. in fact, he made durant worse because a point guard should never have the usage rate that westbrook had-- well over 30%. no chance of synergy or team chemistry with that sort of player. similar to iverson in this regard, but really he's the wilt chamberlain of guards-- incredible numbers, but is not really team first, and not much to show for it.

durant, a heady pragmatist in recognizing this, went to a team where he will be able to expand his game, becoming the playmaker a la paul george and paul pierce that he was meant to be-- but could never be-- with westbrook.

for those who hate durant's guts, you have to ask yourself the question: would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

He was one win from the finals. His team choked. Then he goes to the team that beat him. They also won an nba record of games that season.... "heady pragmatist"? Can't give him any credit for simply going to the best team in the nba.

He tattooed a picture of Tupac with the words "all eyes on me" on his calve right after signing... so this guy is clearly a douche.

you may not be aware that durant is an advanced stat player that prizes efficiency, and efficiency is best represented by TS%. just google "justin zormelo." the issue in okc has been that his teammate is the anti- efficient player. in fact westbrook is a volume shooter and essentially a gambler. and you just don't win titles that way. moreoever, westbrook is a point guard whose usage hovers around 32% while taking about 20 shots a game. he detracts from his teammates, especially durant. in that series i believe durant had had just about enough of westbrook:

game 1 he shot 7-21 , missing 14 shots. TS% is 49.7 W
game 2 he shot 5-14 , missing 9 shots. TS% is 49.4 L
game 3 he shot 10-19, missing 9 shots. TS% is 62.9 W
game 4 he shot 12-27, missing 15 shots. TS% is 59.0 W
game 5 he shot 11-28, missing 17 shots. TS% is 48.5 L
game 6 he shot 10-27, missing 17 shots. TS% is 44.6 L
game 7 and shot 7-21, missing 14 shots. TS% is 48.5 L

durant's "team" didn't choke so much as westbrook was just being the whole show, wherein he was 1-4 in games where his TS% was below 50, and 2-0 where his TS% was closer to 60.

All those stats and facts that you want to put out there still puts Durant on the best team in the nba after he lost to them in the playoffs... I don't even get why you have to reach so far just to make a point. What are you his cousin?

the answer to your question is "no." now can you answer my question: if you're durant, would you prefer and enjoy being stuck playing alongside russell westbrook the majority of your career?

The answer to that question should have been answered by management... they never put the correct mix around the two players... that's why Durant should move to a different team. The franchise had proven that is more concerned with saving money than building a championship team.

If I were Durant I would have left too. You can't really fault him for going to the surest thing especially since he could sign there outright.... as a man and a competitor, I would not have went to Golden State. I would have went to the eastern conference to a team like Boston, Wizards or even Toronto. As a fan I could respect that. If I was a player I could respect myself better with that decision

the warriors play a beautiful brand of basketball, just like the spurs. just so happens that beauty in basketball correlates closely to pure teamwork and synergy, and pure teamwork and synergy correlate closely to efficiency. durant prizes efficiency so he went to a team that best embodies that.

beautiful basketball = pure teamwork and synergy = efficiency

if there were other teams out there that embodied these attributes then durant might have considered going elsewhere. as it is, you have agreed that he should have left okc. what you object to is where he decided to go. ok i get that.

however, as a competitor, he wants to win. he's no less of a competitor if he goes to a place that gives him a better chance to do so, while allowing his game to blossom. your position doesn't make sense, ie. he should go to a lesser team and try to lead that team to a title. again, as a competitor and a man, he wants to win.