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nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:where's hillary's cheerleader, bonn? bonn, it's ok, you can come out now.

everyone has a right to vote for who they want. I voted for trump but i wouldnt criticize anybody voting for hilary. This definetly was unexpected. I knew it was gonna be tight but there have been many twists today

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump. I still see absolutely no redeeming quality to this guy that even remotely hints that he would make even a semi-competent president. I totally get people not liking Clinton. Heck, I don't like her either, but its like saying the Jets suck so I'm voting for the Cleveland Browns.

and this is the problem. nobody gives a fuck about what you think. vote for who you want and let others vote for who they want to. who are you? you have no right and i mean NO RIGHT, to tell anyone who and what to vote for. what a joke.

Tell me when I told anybody who to vote for. Read versus react emotionally.

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump.

oh ok, so you didn't TELL anybody who to vote for but you'll play the holier than thou card and just "criticize" them for voting for trump, since there's a huge difference.

Again, you have no clue what you're even typing. "Holier than thou?" You're not making any sense.

But yeah, objectively I can't justify anyone voting for Trump. Sorry. People are certainly free to vote for whoever they want, doesn't mean it was a smart decision. There's a town that voted for a little kid as their mayor. It's their choice, no matter how dumb it is.

that's right. deflect it by telling me "i don't know what i'm talking about." typical. thanks for proving everything that's already been assumed.

Then explain how I'm playing the "holier than thou" card. No, that makes no sense.

it's pretty easy and doesn't really need an explanation, but i'll bite.

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump.

what about your statement shows that you don't think you're morally superior to anyone who voted for trump? instead of just saying, "i don't agree with people's vote of trump," you instead think your opinion has more validity than anyone's who voted for trump, by saying you will criticize the trump supporters for their vote. you think your opinion is superior than that of a trump supporter. aka holier than thou.

He's not the only one. That has been going on for damn near 2yrs here. Can't take them seriously

gunsnewing wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:where's hillary's cheerleader, bonn? bonn, it's ok, you can come out now.

everyone has a right to vote for who they want. I voted for trump but i wouldnt criticize anybody voting for hilary. This definetly was unexpected. I knew it was gonna be tight but there have been many twists today

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump. I still see absolutely no redeeming quality to this guy that even remotely hints that he would make even a semi-competent president. I totally get people not liking Clinton. Heck, I don't like her either, but its like saying the Jets suck so I'm voting for the Cleveland Browns.

and this is the problem. nobody gives a fuck about what you think. vote for who you want and let others vote for who they want to. who are you? you have no right and i mean NO RIGHT, to tell anyone who and what to vote for. what a joke.

Tell me when I told anybody who to vote for. Read versus react emotionally.

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump.

oh ok, so you didn't TELL anybody who to vote for but you'll play the holier than thou card and just "criticize" them for voting for trump, since there's a huge difference.

yeah i agree with you. He was basically saying im crazy for voting for trump. I admit im not even a trump fan but i feel its the only choice

If you had voted for any other republican candidate and he/she won, I would just tip my hat and say congrats. Trump is a different animal.

i understand your opinion of Trump and i probably agree with some of it BUT calling my decision stupid doesnt exactly make me feel to good especially since i dont consider myself a stupid person

Very smart people make bad (and even stupid) decisions. I'm a democrat and feel we made a stupid decision nominating Clinton.

So all my life when I voted democrat including foolishly for Obama I was a genius. This year because I switched my allegiance and voted Trump I'm stupid. Got it. Very sound and tolerant reasoning

Why Trump? What exactly do you think are his qualifications to be the most powerful man in the world? Bush nearly destroyed the world and Trump is even worse. What exactly does he bring to the table?

gunsnewing wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:where's hillary's cheerleader, bonn? bonn, it's ok, you can come out now.

everyone has a right to vote for who they want. I voted for trump but i wouldnt criticize anybody voting for hilary. This definetly was unexpected. I knew it was gonna be tight but there have been many twists today

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump. I still see absolutely no redeeming quality to this guy that even remotely hints that he would make even a semi-competent president. I totally get people not liking Clinton. Heck, I don't like her either, but its like saying the Jets suck so I'm voting for the Cleveland Browns.

and this is the problem. nobody gives a fuck about what you think. vote for who you want and let others vote for who they want to. who are you? you have no right and i mean NO RIGHT, to tell anyone who and what to vote for. what a joke.

Tell me when I told anybody who to vote for. Read versus react emotionally.

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump.

oh ok, so you didn't TELL anybody who to vote for but you'll play the holier than thou card and just "criticize" them for voting for trump, since there's a huge difference.

yeah i agree with you. He was basically saying im crazy for voting for trump. I admit im not even a trump fan but i feel its the only choice

If you had voted for any other republican candidate and he/she won, I would just tip my hat and say congrats. Trump is a different animal.

i understand your opinion of Trump and i probably agree with some of it BUT calling my decision stupid doesnt exactly make me feel to good especially since i dont consider myself a stupid person

Very smart people make bad (and even stupid) decisions. I'm a democrat and feel we made a stupid decision nominating Clinton.

So all my life when I voted democrat including foolishly for Obama I was a genius. This year because I switched my allegiance and voted Trump I'm stupid. Got it. Very sound and tolerant reasoning

meloshouldgo wrote:

Welpee wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Welpee wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If Trump wins at least this will put a big dent in the Clinton wing of the Democratic party. Cant think of any family who has moved the party further away from its traditional platform. I hope those who were strong supporters of Hillary understand how tired people are of the Clintons and their triangulation. All it has done is move this country and the democratic party further and further to the right. Hopefully this emboldens the progressive wing of the party.

Trust me, I'm tired of the Clintons too. I didn't vote for her in the primaries, didn't vote for her in 2008. I only supported her because of the opponent she ran against and the prospects of what a Trump presidency is going to look like. I would've considered voting for a sane, moderate republican if they offered one.

But also understand, there were a lot of unethical forces to contributed to this too. Why people seem to be OK with foreign entities hacking emails to influence the election, the FBI injecting themselves into this election, and efforts to suppress voting is beyond me. The ends do not justify the means.

That wasnt directed at reluctant voters like yourself, more for the enthusiastic supporters of Clinton. It bears repeating that historians have to go back several thousand years to find a more unequal society. The Clintons played a big part in making that happen. Many voters who might have voted for a democrat were willing to do whatever it took to keep the Clintons from doing it again.

But to do this against their own self interests? Enduring four years of Trump just to rid themselves of Clinton?

Clinton is also against their self interest, this is the message people need to hear

I could've told them that. Oh wait I did and was viciously attacked and ridiculed. You certainly
Did too. Always admired your views despite the heat they threw at you

nyk4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:where's hillary's cheerleader, bonn? bonn, it's ok, you can come out now.

everyone has a right to vote for who they want. I voted for trump but i wouldnt criticize anybody voting for hilary. This definetly was unexpected. I knew it was gonna be tight but there have been many twists today

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump. I still see absolutely no redeeming quality to this guy that even remotely hints that he would make even a semi-competent president. I totally get people not liking Clinton. Heck, I don't like her either, but its like saying the Jets suck so I'm voting for the Cleveland Browns.

and this is the problem. nobody gives a fuck about what you think. vote for who you want and let others vote for who they want to. who are you? you have no right and i mean NO RIGHT, to tell anyone who and what to vote for. what a joke.

Tell me when I told anybody who to vote for. Read versus react emotionally.

You're right, everybody has a right to vote for who they want but I would definitely criticize anybody voting for Trump.

oh ok, so you didn't TELL anybody who to vote for but you'll play the holier than thou card and just "criticize" them for voting for trump, since there's a huge difference.

yeah i agree with you. He was basically saying im crazy for voting for trump. I admit im not even a trump fan but i feel its the only choice

If you had voted for any other republican candidate and he/she won, I would just tip my hat and say congrats. Trump is a different animal.

i understand your opinion of Trump and i probably agree with some of it BUT calling my decision stupid doesnt exactly make me feel to good especially since i dont consider myself a stupid person

Very smart people make bad (and even stupid) decisions. I'm a democrat and feel we made a stupid decision nominating Clinton.

So all my life when I voted democrat including foolishly for Obama I was a genius. This year because I switched my allegiance and voted Trump I'm stupid. Got it. Very sound and tolerant reasoning

and welpee claims he's NOT holier than thou. what a joke.

don't worry, he'll tell you how stupid he thinks you are. just give him the opportunity.

holfresh wrote:Time to embrace Trump..He is exactly what America needs now..All their lives, Americans thought the guy in the White House was in their corner..Time to wake up..Trump will show us the real deal..

holfresh wrote:And the Clintons are so smug..Freaking Bill thought he could knock Obamacare and still win...

Welpee wrote:

holfresh wrote:Time to embrace Trump..He is exactly what America needs now..All their lives, Americans thought the guy in the White House was in their corner..Time to wake up..Trump will show us the real deal..

When you say "embrace" what does that mean?

They are all crooks..America looks up to those in the White House..Trump will change all that..And the reason that is good, we think people in Washington have our best interest in mind..They don't...

Welpee wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Welpee wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Welpee wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:As easy as it is to blame the white hate, I really think it has more to do with how disenfranchised us liberals feel. Most progressives think the centrist democrats have killed the party and the values we stood for. So it's a referendum on the right wing slanted perversion of the Democratic party.

I don't know about that. Dems certainly had a viable non-centrist option they could've chosen in Bernie Sanders. Why we didn't go that direction? Your guess is as good as mine.

Because the democratic party leadership strongly backed Clinton and the left doesn't have the hardcore extreme vote to turn the tide on their own party, like the Republicans just did.

But they did it in 2008 when Obama came out of nowhere.

Obama had a large part of the Democratic voter base locked up. He had the AA vote to separate himself, Bernie had progressives and intellectuals, not the same thing.

The big secret that many don't realize is that Obama DIDN'T have the AA vote lock up in the beginning. I'm black and I know a lot of folks in my community were leery of Obama and didn't take him seriously until Iowa. AA were solidly in Clinton's corner early on. Of course once he picked up momentum AA jumped in head first with support.

I was going to make this same point re: early support of Obama by African-Americans.

BRIGGS may have also called African Americans, men particularly, saying what do we have to lose with Trump. Clinton may have gotten only 80% black vote in areas of Pennsylvania. I passed a guy here in Brooklyn who said he just wish he could vote Obama third term. The excitement for her isn't there with men of all races, and suburban white women too. Still ain't over but man oh man. I hope I don't have to post on a man up thread ...

holfresh wrote:

Welpee wrote:

holfresh wrote:Time to embrace Trump..He is exactly what America needs now..All their lives, Americans thought the guy in the White House was in their corner..Time to wake up..Trump will show us the real deal..

When you say "embrace" what does that mean?

They are all crooks..America looks up to those in the White House..Trump will change all that..And the reason that is good, we think people in Washington have our best interest in mind..They don't...

nixluva wrote:This is surreal. I can't believe it went down like this. Those who support Trump have to be honest, they have NO IDEA what he's going to do. He doesn't really know what he's gonna do! They only saving grace is the fact that we have balance of power and not a king. Tho someone might want to tell Trump that.

Welpee wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Welpee wrote:

holfresh wrote:Time to embrace Trump..He is exactly what America needs now..All their lives, Americans thought the guy in the White House was in their corner..Time to wake up..Trump will show us the real deal..

When you say "embrace" what does that mean?

They are all crooks..America looks up to those in the White House..Trump will change all that..And the reason that is good, we think people in Washington have our best interest in mind..They don't...

So are you saying Trump is just going to be openly corrupt and just dismiss the pretense that anyone in the white house cares about the people they're suppose to represent? Just trying to understand what you're saying.

Well yeah..That's what America has elected..This dude walked in on 15 year old girls for the purpose of seeing them naked and America didn't care..

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Welpee wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Welpee wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Welpee wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:As easy as it is to blame the white hate, I really think it has more to do with how disenfranchised us liberals feel. Most progressives think the centrist democrats have killed the party and the values we stood for. So it's a referendum on the right wing slanted perversion of the Democratic party.

I don't know about that. Dems certainly had a viable non-centrist option they could've chosen in Bernie Sanders. Why we didn't go that direction? Your guess is as good as mine.

Because the democratic party leadership strongly backed Clinton and the left doesn't have the hardcore extreme vote to turn the tide on their own party, like the Republicans just did.

But they did it in 2008 when Obama came out of nowhere.

Obama had a large part of the Democratic voter base locked up. He had the AA vote to separate himself, Bernie had progressives and intellectuals, not the same thing.

The big secret that many don't realize is that Obama DIDN'T have the AA vote lock up in the beginning. I'm black and I know a lot of folks in my community were leery of Obama and didn't take him seriously until Iowa. AA were solidly in Clinton's corner early on. Of course once he picked up momentum AA jumped in head first with support.

I was going to make this same point re: early support of Obama by African-Americans.

BRIGGS may have also called African Americans, men particularly, saying what do we have to lose with Trump. Clinton may have gotten only 80% black vote in areas of Pennsylvania. I passed a guy here in Brooklyn who said he just wish he could vote Obama third term. The excitement for her isn't there with men of all races, and suburban white women too. Still ain't over but man oh man. I hope I don't have to post on a man up thread ...

holfresh wrote:Putin got the last laugh...

holfresh wrote:

Welpee wrote:

holfresh wrote:Time to embrace Trump..He is exactly what America needs now..All their lives, Americans thought the guy in the White House was in their corner..Time to wake up..Trump will show us the real deal..

When you say "embrace" what does that mean?

They are all crooks..America looks up to those in the White House..Trump will change all that..And the reason that is good, we think people in Washington have our best interest in mind..They don't...

Hate to break it to you, but neither does trump- he'll throw you a few bones but he's a self interested conman, as you will eventually realize

holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..

They want a wall to separate them from the folk who are coming and they know very well...