gunsnewing wrote:nixluva wrote:smackeddog wrote:So what do you think Trump will drop first, his giant wall or ban on all Muslims? Do voters realise that keeping more jobs in America means much higher prices on the shit they like to buy?
The Trump voters for the most part don't know what they've done. Trump talked so much crap and had so little actual policy. They just bought the Snake Oil pitch, hook line and sinker!!!
funny all I heard fro Hillary was how awful a human being Trump is. Absolutely no policy. Plenty of policy from Trump.
TRUMP JUST OFFICIALLY WON BABY. PENN CALLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary had TONS of policy. This just shows Trump voters were dazzled by his reality show. Trump is a know nothing. Didn't even bother to try and learn either. This is a disgrace for this country to put this megalomaniac in the seat of power!
So let me get this straight Trump is going to turn this into a dictatorship, drop nukes and bring back slavery? Got it!
This is the modern day Boston Tea Party
nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:nixluva wrote:smackeddog wrote:So what do you think Trump will drop first, his giant wall or ban on all Muslims? Do voters realise that keeping more jobs in America means much higher prices on the shit they like to buy?
The Trump voters for the most part don't know what they've done. Trump talked so much crap and had so little actual policy. They just bought the Snake Oil pitch, hook line and sinker!!!
funny all I heard fro Hillary was how awful a human being Trump is. Absolutely no policy. Plenty of policy from Trump.
TRUMP JUST OFFICIALLY WON BABY. PENN CALLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary had TONS of policy. This just shows Trump voters were dazzled by his reality show. Trump is a know nothing. Didn't even bother to try and learn either. This is a disgrace for this country to put this megalomaniac in the seat of power!
didnt see much of a plan from hilary. I know she is a crook but also kind of an idiot
Vmart wrote:Oh shut Isiah Thomas spotted at Clinton HQ
He picked the right place
smackeddog wrote:Vmart wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..
Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.
2 things to keep in mind:
There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.
It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas
Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.
What do you think is the reasoning behind that?
Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night.
My recommendation get out of this area and explore America
lol even CNN playing nice with Trump now an trashing Hillary. Bet half are fearing for their jobs
Dear god America what have we done. Worst day in American history. I'm ashamed to be a American today .
fitzfarm wrote:Dear god America what have we done. Worst day in American history. I'm ashamed to be a American today .
Now Trump has to actually GOVERN. His plans are actually antithetical to those of the Republicans he now leads. Trump is anti trade deals and he wants to spend tax dollars for his massive policy ideas. How will he convince Congress, namely the Republicans, to fund his massive spending plans??? Just go down the line of Trumps proposals. Massive increase of the Military. Big Tax Cuts. A new Healthcare Program to replace Obamacare! Idea after idea is going to cost billions.
nixluva wrote:fitzfarm wrote:Dear god America what have we done. Worst day in American history. I'm ashamed to be a American today .
Now Trump has to actually GOVERN. His plans are actually antithetical to those of the Republicans he now leads. Trump is anti trade deals and he wants to spend tax dollars for his massive policy ideas. How will he convince Congress, namely the Republicans, to fund his massive spending plans??? Just go down the line of Trumps proposals. Massive increase of the Military. Big Tax Cuts. A new Healthcare Program to replace Obamacare! Idea after idea is going to cost billions.
Yeah, I've been wondering about this too.
gunsnewing wrote:smackeddog wrote:Vmart wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:gunsnewing wrote:holfresh wrote:More latinos voted for Trump than expected..
Expect s according to who? Being Latino Doesn't automatically mean you are voting democrat. Let alone a two faced ultra corrupt one like Hillary.
2 things to keep in mind:
There are plenty of Latino legal Americans who pay taxes and plenty who are devout catholics. Strongly against Hillary's late term abortion policies.
It's not their fault so many were misled by the media and their political agendas
Gotta +1 it. The data coming in backs you up. 33% of Latino men went Trump they saying on PBS.
What do you think is the reasoning behind that?
Trump voters didn't vote for him on logical grounds, it was an emotional decision because he resonated them emotionally
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night.
My recommendation get out of this area and explore America
I don't really get what you're objecting to- you honestly think most people who voted Trump did so after careful weighing up of the facts? Emotional decisions can be fine, we all make them, the problem is they just tend to be aimed at meeting short term needs.
fitzfarm wrote:Dear god America what have we done. Worst day in American history. I'm ashamed to be a American today .
Speaking of which have the Americans who said they are leaving it Trump wins leave yet? I'm gonna invest on Uhaul stock tomorrow morning
All I can say is: "Only in America"
Well, the people wanted someone who was not going to follow the establishment. They now get what they asked for. I make a decent living, so I don't think Trump is going to hurt me. It should at least be entertaining.
I think this speaks to how extremist the Democratic party has become. Trump is an empty net of a presidential opponent as you can get. People didn't want open borders, more regulations, taxes, race mongering that they thought they be getting with the democrats. I remember being stunned when hilary said one of the ways she was going to fix our economy was with solar panels. Before you all pile on, trump revolts me as does clinton. I voted for gary johnson.
Now that I have a few minutes let me just end the night by saying this.
Donald Trump will end up being the best President in our lifetimes. He will be aggressive helping restore good paying jobs to all American citizens--help wages grow and lower taxes. He will help restore some pride in the US clearly lost over numerous years. Hes a common sense New Yorker at the end of the day. Hes a builder who is cunning smart and meticulous. His narcissism will help him --his energy will help him --and in turn hes going to help the US. Whether some people like it or not--feel its racist or not--illegal immigration has to be controlled. We cannot be an out of control free border state anymore--doesnt work. We need to take pride in our borders and keep drugs out of our nation the best we can. We need to have good strong relations--but fair relations where the US isnt pulling the load 90% of the time. If you look past the rhetoric--a lot of it is just common sense reasonable ideas. I could go on here but Im tired. Give him a chance just like anyone else who has earned the right.
Lastly the media the elitists people behind the scenes who run it and the entertainment community just got a well deserved major-league kick in the ass. We were "Russia' the last 6 months but the democracy of the people saw through it and rejected it. For every person who tried to impose their will --to bully Trump voters--God spoke to you last night.
For those who are saying this is racist--these are many of the same people who voted in Obama the least 8 years--its the majority of the US citizens. Unfortunately there will always be bad apples but the approach of keeping an open mind and not thinking the walls will be tumbling down is the right way. The people who voted this way were simply fed up with the ongoing direction of this country where the rich get richer and the middle class has to deal with finding jobs stagnant pay increasing health care costs staggering debt. It didnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
I knew trump would win--I paid attention. While I didnt see much of Fairfield County in CT I did see a lot of Eastern CT which to me equated to many of the parts of the US. I saw 5-6 Trump signs to 1 Hillary. I watched on TV and saw tens of thousand of every day people storming to trump rallies wiling to sit outside the stadiums if necessary. I paid attention to social media and listened to my friends. The day that I knew wed win was the day my daughter came back from her schools vote--While mentioned as insignificant--I did not think so. A school made up of well educated good kids with a majority of females put him in 51-39. You start doing the math there and at minimum despite all odds it was going to be close. Another sign--Bill Belechik and Tom Brady letting people know in a nonchalant way they were voting Trump. It was the "quiet" Trump vote I believed would be a game changer and it was.
So this is done and good riddance--Im sick of it. New day tomorrow and this thread officially dies. Oh and people like Miley Cyrus--if you dont like the US and want to get out--dont let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.
The big danger here is that trump clearly has no coherent policy and has demonstrated no desire to get informed or do any real work aside from public speaking. Hopefully he hands it off to his vp. More likely he'll just appoint his family into office.
So who is going to start the Trump gamevthread. This is going to be a wild ride. Any news on the house and senate?
nykshaknbake wrote:The big danger here is that trump clearly has no coherent policy and has demonstrated no desire to get informed or do any real work aside from public speaking. Hopefully he hands it off to his vp. More likely he'll just appoint his family into office.
No, no, no! His VP is in the hardcore religious right. We have to hope that the real Trump is someone much closer to the progressive he was 10 years ago, and that that's who he'll be as President. It seems unlikely if you look at who he's surrounded himself with but perhaps we can at least hope that he's a little more progressive than his campaigning suggested.
I saw Briggs' comment about closing this thread. Martin and Andrew, I hope you'll keep it open for at least a little while. Most of us here are progressive democrats and at this moment, it would be nice to be able to support each other.
Can't believe she lost PA, what a complete garbage candidate.
I guess what remains to be seen is how Trump and Republicans work together and if Dems can block a SC nomination like the Reps would have, I already know the answer to that.
meloshouldgo wrote:Can't believe she lost PA, what a complete garbage candidate.
I guess what remains to be seen is how Trump and Republicans work together and if Dems can block a SC nomination like the Reps would have, I already know the answer to that.
Well, I would say this. I know everyone's going to trash Hillary now and say she was deeply flawed. I think her biggest flaw was "going high when they went low" as Michelle Obama put it, though. She tried to keep the discussion at a respectful, presidential level. It's the same mistaken that the 16 Republicans Trump defeated made.
I live in PA - near Pittsburgh. I LOVE Pittsburgh and have always been proud to be part of the state. I'm very disappointed with the state now, though. It seems like it's not the great state I thought it was. We in the Pittsburgh region (and those in the Philly region) tried our best though.
Wow, Republicans control the ENTIRE country - they have the Presidency, The Senate, the House, the Governorships, the State Congresses. Unless Trump surprises us and is more moderate than he seemed, I think the country is going to move very far to the right for many decades.