To kind of make my point--let me in on the part of Hillarys performance that swayed a potential voter to go her way? What point was it?
She was good at counter punching taxes birtheriscm etc.. a loaded question is easy to debate. Thats why if you were really watching the debate--it was unbalanced and that was noticeable. Two thing Trump did poorly--he had her down and just couldve stayed on point by simply saying thats irrelevant IOm here for jobs security etc.. every time he got a loaded question and then he never went at her with immigration obamacare benghazzi etc or even worse subjects like being an enabler(once it got personal) and lastly he tried to call her out on stamina when it was him who went to the water many times not her. She stayed composed and looked much better than last week physically. But on acvtual talking points that mattered which were really only the first 30 minutes--I mean watch it again.
This Election reminds me of the George Bush thing all over again. You guys should've seen Georgia at that time. These people were so in love with Bush. Bush Bumper stickers! Blue Bush Lawn Signs! They were all in on Bush and then he destroyed this country and these people are falling for another IDIOT. At least this time I don't see a million Trump signs everywhere. Maybe they're starting to learn or maybe they're just embarrassed to admit openly that they're for Trump. God help us if he gets elected cuz Bush was a genius compared to Trump!!!
16/17 polls with over 2.7mm votes and 60-40 Trump. That is a great deal of room. Hillary came off like she memorized a Spanish test to me. I know what trump did wrong but I know what Hillary did not even come close to doing. And America isnt stupid.
nixluva wrote:This Election reminds me of the George Bush thing all over again. You guys should've seen Georgia at that time. These people were so in love with Bush. Bush Bumper stickers! Blue Bush Lawn Signs! They were all in on Bush and then he destroyed this country and these people are falling for another IDIOT. At least this time I don't see a million Trump signs everywhere. Maybe they're starting to learn or maybe they're just embarrassed to admit openly that they're for Trump. God help us if he gets elected cuz Bush was a genius compared to Trump!!!
Complete opposite here--Trump signs everywhere in CT.
Trump had a bunch of 400 lb hackers rigging those polls from the comfort of their bed.
I'm hearing that all 90% of these poll entries were made by his 10 year old computer whiz son. That's what I'm hearing. Sad! I won't accept them... we have to find out what the hell is going on.
Baba booey.
well if the #Trumpwon hashtag exists, I guess he won. Zogby has nothing on you BRIGGS.
Here's a tip for your boy: less Rosie O'Donnell, more Doris Kearns Goodwin.
BRIGGS wrote:To kind of make my point--let me in on the part of Hillarys performance that swayed a potential voter to go her way? What point was it?She was good at counter punching taxes birtheriscm etc.. a loaded question is easy to debate. Thats why if you were really watching the debate--it was unbalanced and that was noticeable. Two thing Trump did poorly--he had her down and just couldve stayed on point by simply saying thats irrelevant IOm here for jobs security etc.. every time he got a loaded question and then he never went at her with immigration obamacare benghazzi etc or even worse subjects like being an enabler(once it got personal) and lastly he tried to call her out on stamina when it was him who went to the water many times not her. She stayed composed and looked much better than last week physically. But on acvtual talking points that mattered which were really only the first 30 minutes--I mean watch it again.
Lester Holt (a Republican) was asking loaded questions favoring Hillary Clinton?! Are you sure you're not suffering from a confirmation bias here?
BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:This Election reminds me of the George Bush thing all over again. You guys should've seen Georgia at that time. These people were so in love with Bush. Bush Bumper stickers! Blue Bush Lawn Signs! They were all in on Bush and then he destroyed this country and these people are falling for another IDIOT. At least this time I don't see a million Trump signs everywhere. Maybe they're starting to learn or maybe they're just embarrassed to admit openly that they're for Trump. God help us if he gets elected cuz Bush was a genius compared to Trump!!!
Complete opposite here--Trump signs everywhere in CT.
Does it not scare you that the last time we elected a relatively dumb president he nearly wrecked the world??? When will people learn? Bush was so bad that I can't understand why people in this country seem like they haven't learned that lesson yet. Trump would be the worst thing to happen to this country in our lifetime. I can't for the life of me understand your love for Trump BRIGGS. What is it about Trump that makes you believe he would be good for the country?
DrAlphaeus wrote:well if the #Trumpwon hashtag exists, I guess he won. Zogby has nothing on you BRIGGS.Here's a tip for your boy: less Rosie O'Donnell, more Doris Kearns Goodwin.
Even if that poll is right, I think Hillary would be better off simplifying many of her answers. She doesn't talk like ordinary people - she's more like a professor. I'm a supporter of hers but I think she could use fewer SAT words and give shorter sentences. She also missed a lot of opportunities. She mentioned the 6 bankruptcies - great. But she should have said, we can't afford to have Trump bankrupt the nation like he bankrupted his businesses. She shouldn't have waited to bring up the "racist birther" issue either (though "racist birther" is a good word choice on her part). Obama is probably the most popular politician in the country right now. If she can get all his supporters to vote for her, she'll win by a landslide. She should be talking about the racist birther movement much more.
BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:This Election reminds me of the George Bush thing all over again. You guys should've seen Georgia at that time. These people were so in love with Bush. Bush Bumper stickers! Blue Bush Lawn Signs! They were all in on Bush and then he destroyed this country and these people are falling for another IDIOT. At least this time I don't see a million Trump signs everywhere. Maybe they're starting to learn or maybe they're just embarrassed to admit openly that they're for Trump. God help us if he gets elected cuz Bush was a genius compared to Trump!!!
Complete opposite here--Trump signs everywhere in CT.
You mean everywhere in Rowayton, CT. Drive around Hartford and surrounding areas and come back to me. Pretty sure your crowd isn't a sample size that can quantify "everywhere in CT."
But we see what we want to see.
Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:well if the #Trumpwon hashtag exists, I guess he won. Zogby has nothing on you BRIGGS.Here's a tip for your boy: less Rosie O'Donnell, more Doris Kearns Goodwin.
Even if that poll is right, I think Hillary would be better off simplifying many of her answers. She doesn't talk like ordinary people - she's more like a professor. I'm a supporter of hers but I think she could use fewer SAT words and give shorter sentences. She also missed a lot of opportunities. She mentioned the 6 bankruptcies - great. But she should have said, we can't afford to have Trump bankrupt the nation like he bankrupted his businesses. She shouldn't have waited to bring up the "racist birther" issue either (though "racist birther" is a good word choice on her part). Obama is probably the most popular politician in the country right now. If she can get all his supporters to vote for her, she'll win by a landslide. She should be talking about the racist birther movement much more.
Spot on. She needs to dumb it waaaaay down for the masses. Trump is great at the bumper sticker politics. Most cant handle more than 4-5 word answers and Trump may have won the debate saying nothing but "Ill do it better." "My plan will work." and of course "my relationships with these people are incredible."
Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:well if the #Trumpwon hashtag exists, I guess he won. Zogby has nothing on you BRIGGS.Here's a tip for your boy: less Rosie O'Donnell, more Doris Kearns Goodwin.
Even if that poll is right, I think Hillary would be better off simplifying many of her answers. She doesn't talk like ordinary people - she's more like a professor. I'm a supporter of hers but I think she could use fewer SAT words and give shorter sentences. She also missed a lot of opportunities. She mentioned the 6 bankruptcies - great. But she should have said, we can't afford to have Trump bankrupt the nation like he bankrupted his businesses. She shouldn't have waited to bring up the "racist birther" issue either (though "racist birther" is a good word choice on her part). Obama is probably the most popular politician in the country right now. If she can get all his supporters to vote for her, she'll win by a landslide. She should be talking about the racist birther movement much more.
She could have been tighter, and missed opportunities, I agree. She may have been putting more energy into her physical presentation to counter the stamina crap, and making sure her tone was as appealing as it could be. I expect her to tighten her delivery up. And personally, I kinda liked it when she let go a bit and had that scowl on her face. A little Iron Lady could go a long way.
nixluva wrote:BRIGGS wrote:nixluva wrote:This Election reminds me of the George Bush thing all over again. You guys should've seen Georgia at that time. These people were so in love with Bush. Bush Bumper stickers! Blue Bush Lawn Signs! They were all in on Bush and then he destroyed this country and these people are falling for another IDIOT. At least this time I don't see a million Trump signs everywhere. Maybe they're starting to learn or maybe they're just embarrassed to admit openly that they're for Trump. God help us if he gets elected cuz Bush was a genius compared to Trump!!!
Complete opposite here--Trump signs everywhere in CT.
Does it not scare you that the last time we elected a relatively dumb president he nearly wrecked the world??? When will people learn? Bush was so bad that I can't understand why people in this country seem like they haven't learned that lesson yet. Trump would be the worst thing to happen to this country in our lifetime. I can't for the life of me understand your love for Trump BRIGGS. What is it about Trump that makes you believe he would be good for the country?
It's really the cost of admitting that they are wrong. That's what it boils down to. But there is another argument favouring Trump. People are sick and tired of establishment politicians. They want change. Admittedly a large group of them have no idea that the change they are supporting will be far worse in the long term, so they are blindly getting in line behind this jackass and repeating his gobbledygook double standards to boot.
Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:well if the #Trumpwon hashtag exists, I guess he won. Zogby has nothing on you BRIGGS.Here's a tip for your boy: less Rosie O'Donnell, more Doris Kearns Goodwin.
Even if that poll is right, I think Hillary would be better off simplifying many of her answers. She doesn't talk like ordinary people - she's more like a professor. I'm a supporter of hers but I think she could use fewer SAT words and give shorter sentences. She also missed a lot of opportunities. She mentioned the 6 bankruptcies - great. But she should have said, we can't afford to have Trump bankrupt the nation like he bankrupted his businesses. She shouldn't have waited to bring up the "racist birther" issue either (though "racist birther" is a good word choice on her part). Obama is probably the most popular politician in the country right now. If she can get all his supporters to vote for her, she'll win by a landslide. She should be talking about the racist birther movement much more.
No, I don't think she needs to dumb it down. It's straight out disrespectful. People are perfectly able to understand what she is saying, she has very poor stage presence, she isn't very dynamic or commanding. But we don't need her to use simpler sentences.
fishmike wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:well if the #Trumpwon hashtag exists, I guess he won. Zogby has nothing on you BRIGGS.Here's a tip for your boy: less Rosie O'Donnell, more Doris Kearns Goodwin.
Even if that poll is right, I think Hillary would be better off simplifying many of her answers. She doesn't talk like ordinary people - she's more like a professor. I'm a supporter of hers but I think she could use fewer SAT words and give shorter sentences. She also missed a lot of opportunities. She mentioned the 6 bankruptcies - great. But she should have said, we can't afford to have Trump bankrupt the nation like he bankrupted his businesses. She shouldn't have waited to bring up the "racist birther" issue either (though "racist birther" is a good word choice on her part). Obama is probably the most popular politician in the country right now. If she can get all his supporters to vote for her, she'll win by a landslide. She should be talking about the racist birther movement much more.
Spot on. She needs to dumb it waaaaay down for the masses. Trump is great at the bumper sticker politics. Most cant handle more than 4-5 word answers and Trump may have won the debate saying nothing but "Ill do it better." "My plan will work." and of course "my relationships with these people are incredible."
I hate the cynicism of talking to the electorate like they are a 5th grader, even if you are right. Don't we want our president to be the smartest guy/gal in the room? And not smart like "I don't pay taxes" smart. But yes, she should tighten them up. Obama should coach her, his style is great at talking to both the nerds and the jocks IMHO.
Remember when presidential rhetoric would lift the citizenry up to a higher level instead of stooping?
Ever read speeches by Lincoln or one of the Roosevelts? Even Reagan.
Maybe that's why our worldwide education metrics suck. We don't demand excellence from ourselves.
We now live in a country where appearing prepared like you studied for your Spanish test is a bad thing. Retarded.
I got a bumper sticker for BRIGGS:
Baba booey.
gunsnewing wrote:TheGame wrote:BRIGGS wrote:gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Last hour of debateTrump called women pigs
Trump was for the Iran war
Trump show us your taxes
Trump why did you make birthed comments
First 30 minutes substance
I thought it was classy that trump refrained from attacking Hillary on how she has treated women in front of her daughter Chelsea and Hillary has less restraint and will sink to those levels. At least I hope that's what he was thinking and he wasn't in a defensive
He started off very well--if he said nothing after the first 30 minutes he wouldve been better off. Just watch the replay the last hour were baited topics that were no material 15 minutes on taxes 15 minutes on Iran the only substance in the entire debate wa the first 30--just go back and check the tape. The people I was watching with were laughing. If you are into no material events than Hillary won the 2nd half of that debate--if you like substance and did not care about non material events--then Trump did. He had her dead to rights and took his foot off her throat and was put on defense by non material topics. Birther taxes women are pigs etc..
BRIGGS please explain how Trump won the first 30 minutes. He did not articulate any clear solutions. The only thing I heard him say is he is going to cut taxes and regulations for corporations. He criticizes every trade agreements but I am at a loss as to what he is going to do differently other than "I will get a better deal." He openly admitted that he pays no taxes. Trump sounds good but when you really listen to him talk there is no substantive solutions. It is just Obama this and Obama that. The country is in far better condition economically than eight years ago, but if you listen to Trump the economy has never been worse in the history of US. The guy is a con man, and he is proud of that fact and he is now trying to pull off his biggest con.
This was certainly one of the underlying elements that kept playing in my head during this first debate. The other is how easily Hillary completely changes her previous stance and panders. How smug she is about it and lastly how ridiculously biased Holt was in favor of Hillary with Anderson Cooper looming. You have to be blind and death not to notice that.
I am hopeful and confident Trump has surrounded himself with qualified people. He isn't perfect but I still trust his intentions over Hillary and co. 7 days a week and twice on sunday
Name them.
Problem with this concept is he seems to not listen very well.
