Knicks · Knicks potential for all-stars (page 2)

nixluva @ 9/5/2016 9:47 PM
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
not sure about Rose but KP and melo seemed set for big years

Rose has never averaged less than 15.9 points per game and 4.3 assists per game even after several season ending injuries. So you can be sure he's going to average close to that. Kill the heart broken teenager routine.

I can't WAIT for these doubters to see Rose in action up close and have to realize how much better he is than they give him credit for. He's been on the increase in terms of games played. He's getting healthier and not weaker. There are no guarantees in terms of health in pro sports. Everyone is a play away. That's why I don't focus on that.

I believe Rose, Melo and KP stand a very good chance of making the All Star team. They can help elevate each other.

nix its not about being proven right its about the knicks winning...thats the most important thing. Once again i dont doubt roses basketball ability(ive followed him since simeon). My only concern is his ability to stay healthy and i think its a very fair question

That's why I stated Rose has been getting stronger. He's played more games each season since his surgery. What they want is to have Rose healthy for the post season. It's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Rose, Noah, Melo and Jennings.

Yeah they need to be monitored to keep them fresh. I'm not too worried about Jennings since he is coming off the bench

Hes playing basketball. He's had physical injuries. He's not a heart attack risk. 30 minutes a game is starters minutes. That's what he should get. Jennings will get all of the backup Poitier guard minutes plus he will play with Rose at times. Bowchikawahwah

IMO teams win mostly with their top 7 rotation players! I like the Knicks top 7 and the bench may be young but there's some good talent on this bench. They should be able to hold it down just enough to make the minutes work.

Hornacek said he plans to mix in players off the bench rather than go with a platoon system. I agree with that approach so that you keep some of your top players on the floor all game. This is better than bringing in a complete group of lesser players and hoping they can hold a lead or not.

StarksEwing1 @ 9/5/2016 9:52 PM
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
not sure about Rose but KP and melo seemed set for big years

Rose has never averaged less than 15.9 points per game and 4.3 assists per game even after several season ending injuries. So you can be sure he's going to average close to that. Kill the heart broken teenager routine.

I can't WAIT for these doubters to see Rose in action up close and have to realize how much better he is than they give him credit for. He's been on the increase in terms of games played. He's getting healthier and not weaker. There are no guarantees in terms of health in pro sports. Everyone is a play away. That's why I don't focus on that.

I believe Rose, Melo and KP stand a very good chance of making the All Star team. They can help elevate each other.

nix its not about being proven right its about the knicks winning...thats the most important thing. Once again i dont doubt roses basketball ability(ive followed him since simeon). My only concern is his ability to stay healthy and i think its a very fair question

That's why I stated Rose has been getting stronger. He's played more games each season since his surgery. What they want is to have Rose healthy for the post season. It's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Rose, Noah, Melo and Jennings.

Yeah they need to be monitored to keep them fresh. I'm not too worried about Jennings since he is coming off the bench

Hes playing basketball. He's had physical injuries. He's not a heart attack risk. 30 minutes a game is starters minutes. That's what he should get. Jennings will get all of the backup Poitier guard minutes plus he will play with Rose at times. Bowchikawahwah

Dont worry Eny it wasnt a negative comment . It was actually a way to make sure Rose was fresh and wouldnt have to push too hard so he would be available throughout the whole year
EnySpree @ 9/5/2016 10:08 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
not sure about Rose but KP and melo seemed set for big years

Rose has never averaged less than 15.9 points per game and 4.3 assists per game even after several season ending injuries. So you can be sure he's going to average close to that. Kill the heart broken teenager routine.

I can't WAIT for these doubters to see Rose in action up close and have to realize how much better he is than they give him credit for. He's been on the increase in terms of games played. He's getting healthier and not weaker. There are no guarantees in terms of health in pro sports. Everyone is a play away. That's why I don't focus on that.

I believe Rose, Melo and KP stand a very good chance of making the All Star team. They can help elevate each other.

nix its not about being proven right its about the knicks winning...thats the most important thing. Once again i dont doubt roses basketball ability(ive followed him since simeon). My only concern is his ability to stay healthy and i think its a very fair question

That's why I stated Rose has been getting stronger. He's played more games each season since his surgery. What they want is to have Rose healthy for the post season. It's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Rose, Noah, Melo and Jennings.

Yeah they need to be monitored to keep them fresh. I'm not too worried about Jennings since he is coming off the bench

Hes playing basketball. He's had physical injuries. He's not a heart attack risk. 30 minutes a game is starters minutes. That's what he should get. Jennings will get all of the backup Poitier guard minutes plus he will play with Rose at times. Bowchikawahwah

Dont worry Eny it wasnt a negative comment . It was actually a way to make sure Rose was fresh and wouldnt have to push too hard so he would be available throughout the whole year

That's why Brandon Jennings is here. Why would they sign the guy and then play Rose 48 minutes a game? All bases are covered

StarksEwing1 @ 9/5/2016 10:12 PM
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
not sure about Rose but KP and melo seemed set for big years

Rose has never averaged less than 15.9 points per game and 4.3 assists per game even after several season ending injuries. So you can be sure he's going to average close to that. Kill the heart broken teenager routine.

I can't WAIT for these doubters to see Rose in action up close and have to realize how much better he is than they give him credit for. He's been on the increase in terms of games played. He's getting healthier and not weaker. There are no guarantees in terms of health in pro sports. Everyone is a play away. That's why I don't focus on that.

I believe Rose, Melo and KP stand a very good chance of making the All Star team. They can help elevate each other.

nix its not about being proven right its about the knicks winning...thats the most important thing. Once again i dont doubt roses basketball ability(ive followed him since simeon). My only concern is his ability to stay healthy and i think its a very fair question

That's why I stated Rose has been getting stronger. He's played more games each season since his surgery. What they want is to have Rose healthy for the post season. It's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Rose, Noah, Melo and Jennings.

Yeah they need to be monitored to keep them fresh. I'm not too worried about Jennings since he is coming off the bench

Hes playing basketball. He's had physical injuries. He's not a heart attack risk. 30 minutes a game is starters minutes. That's what he should get. Jennings will get all of the backup Poitier guard minutes plus he will play with Rose at times. Bowchikawahwah

Dont worry Eny it wasnt a negative comment . It was actually a way to make sure Rose was fresh and wouldnt have to push too hard so he would be available throughout the whole year

That's why Brandon Jennings is here. Why would they sign the guy and then play Rose 48 minutes a game? All bases are covered

when did i say he would play 48 minutes a game? Thats why i have praised the jennings move
EnySpree @ 9/6/2016 7:06 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
not sure about Rose but KP and melo seemed set for big years

Rose has never averaged less than 15.9 points per game and 4.3 assists per game even after several season ending injuries. So you can be sure he's going to average close to that. Kill the heart broken teenager routine.

I can't WAIT for these doubters to see Rose in action up close and have to realize how much better he is than they give him credit for. He's been on the increase in terms of games played. He's getting healthier and not weaker. There are no guarantees in terms of health in pro sports. Everyone is a play away. That's why I don't focus on that.

I believe Rose, Melo and KP stand a very good chance of making the All Star team. They can help elevate each other.

nix its not about being proven right its about the knicks winning...thats the most important thing. Once again i dont doubt roses basketball ability(ive followed him since simeon). My only concern is his ability to stay healthy and i think its a very fair question

That's why I stated Rose has been getting stronger. He's played more games each season since his surgery. What they want is to have Rose healthy for the post season. It's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Rose, Noah, Melo and Jennings.

Yeah they need to be monitored to keep them fresh. I'm not too worried about Jennings since he is coming off the bench

Hes playing basketball. He's had physical injuries. He's not a heart attack risk. 30 minutes a game is starters minutes. That's what he should get. Jennings will get all of the backup Poitier guard minutes plus he will play with Rose at times. Bowchikawahwah

Dont worry Eny it wasnt a negative comment . It was actually a way to make sure Rose was fresh and wouldnt have to push too hard so he would be available throughout the whole year

That's why Brandon Jennings is here. Why would they sign the guy and then play Rose 48 minutes a game? All bases are covered

when did i say he would play 48 minutes a game? Thats why i have praised the jennings move

Sounds good... then you should paint that picture in your posts. Thinking negative and posting negative even when you positive is the problem. This team has bad karma because of us. We have plenty to cheer about for next season yet every single thread is filled with doom and gloom. Posters are actually crying about their right to be objective. It's not being objective guys are constantly dropping subliminal jokes. It's not funny. It just shows what kind of fan you are. How are you in life? Yeah I got a promotion but I'm just going to spend the extra money on beer anyway.... haha but making jokes like that all the time subliminally destroy your life. Yeah she's good looking but she's not into a guy like me. I can go on. Change your mind change your life. It works for all aspects of life. Back to basketball, if everyone keeps saying Noah and Rose are going to be hurt ask year then they will be hurt all year. If everyone keeps saying the Knicks will have a great year then the Knicks will have a great year. It's not like we have a team with Weatherspoon, Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley starting... we have legit reasons to be excited. Dare to be positive you rat bastards!

StarksEwing1 @ 9/6/2016 8:09 AM
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
not sure about Rose but KP and melo seemed set for big years

Rose has never averaged less than 15.9 points per game and 4.3 assists per game even after several season ending injuries. So you can be sure he's going to average close to that. Kill the heart broken teenager routine.

I can't WAIT for these doubters to see Rose in action up close and have to realize how much better he is than they give him credit for. He's been on the increase in terms of games played. He's getting healthier and not weaker. There are no guarantees in terms of health in pro sports. Everyone is a play away. That's why I don't focus on that.

I believe Rose, Melo and KP stand a very good chance of making the All Star team. They can help elevate each other.

nix its not about being proven right its about the knicks winning...thats the most important thing. Once again i dont doubt roses basketball ability(ive followed him since simeon). My only concern is his ability to stay healthy and i think its a very fair question

That's why I stated Rose has been getting stronger. He's played more games each season since his surgery. What they want is to have Rose healthy for the post season. It's going to be very interesting to see how they handle Rose, Noah, Melo and Jennings.

Yeah they need to be monitored to keep them fresh. I'm not too worried about Jennings since he is coming off the bench

Hes playing basketball. He's had physical injuries. He's not a heart attack risk. 30 minutes a game is starters minutes. That's what he should get. Jennings will get all of the backup Poitier guard minutes plus he will play with Rose at times. Bowchikawahwah

Dont worry Eny it wasnt a negative comment . It was actually a way to make sure Rose was fresh and wouldnt have to push too hard so he would be available throughout the whole year

That's why Brandon Jennings is here. Why would they sign the guy and then play Rose 48 minutes a game? All bases are covered

when did i say he would play 48 minutes a game? Thats why i have praised the jennings move

Sounds good... then you should paint that picture in your posts. Thinking negative and posting negative even when you positive is the problem. This team has bad karma because of us. We have plenty to cheer about for next season yet every single thread is filled with doom and gloom. Posters are actually crying about their right to be objective. It's not being objective guys are constantly dropping subliminal jokes. It's not funny. It just shows what kind of fan you are. How are you in life? Yeah I got a promotion but I'm just going to spend the extra money on beer anyway.... haha but making jokes like that all the time subliminally destroy your life. Yeah she's good looking but she's not into a guy like me. I can go on. Change your mind change your life. It works for all aspects of life. Back to basketball, if everyone keeps saying Noah and Rose are going to be hurt ask year then they will be hurt all year. If everyone keeps saying the Knicks will have a great year then the Knicks will have a great year. It's not like we have a team with Weatherspoon, Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley starting... we have legit reasons to be excited. Dare to be positive you rat bastards!

Again I think you are overreacting with the negativity claims. yes I admit certain posters do have a doom and gloom attitude but not as much as you make it seem. Anyway I think we will take a step forward this year. I predicted 44-45 wins which seems realistic as long as we stay mostly healthy
nixluva @ 9/6/2016 1:48 PM
I'm looking for more than a step forward this year. I think it's gonna be a LEAP. Teams that go 7 strong at the top of their rotation tend to win a lot of games. This Knicks team can match up with most any team in the league top 7 for top 7.
StarksEwing1 @ 9/7/2016 8:09 AM
nixluva wrote:I'm looking for more than a step forward this year. I think it's gonna be a LEAP. Teams that go 7 strong at the top of their rotation tend to win a lot of games. This Knicks team can match up with most any team in the league top 7 for top 7.
One step at a time nix. I agree we are improved and I like some of the pieces we added but we still have a bit to go until we can match up with anyone
nixluva @ 9/7/2016 12:08 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm looking for more than a step forward this year. I think it's gonna be a LEAP. Teams that go 7 strong at the top of their rotation tend to win a lot of games. This Knicks team can match up with most any team in the league top 7 for top 7.
One step at a time nix. I agree we are improved and I like some of the pieces we added but we still have a bit to go until we can match up with anyone

I actually disagree. I think this team matches up well with most every team in the NBA. They should be very competitive. Up until injuries hit last year the team was competitive. IMO this team is much better than last year's team.

When you add quality vets to your team it's not the same as adding young talent or lesser players as we have in the recent past. These players have a very clear understanding of their roles and the style of ball Hornacek will run fits their skills. I think a good example of what I'm saying is how the 54 win team came together with all those vets.

ChuckBuck @ 9/7/2016 12:16 PM
Only 2 potential all stars, Melo and KP, realistically 1 all star if Rose decides he wants to "shine" in his contract year.

If they play to their strengths (run offense through the front court since all 3 bigs are decent passers), then Melo and KP will be the lone Knick nominee favorites to make the team. If ego and selfishness take over, only Melo makes it, since no way Rose will overtake Kyrie, Isaiah, John, Kyle, Reggie, or Kemba in the east.

Noah has no shot in hell to make it. Drummond will be a shoo in, possibly Horford, and then since they went with 2 F positions, whomever is the popular vote is.

Knixkik @ 9/7/2016 5:32 PM
We have 2 potential all-stars in Melo and KP. I can't see Rose getting in, unless its the fan vote. Noah won't ever be an all-star again i don't think. But 2 all-stars would still be amazing.
mreinman @ 9/7/2016 5:39 PM
how close was KP to making the all star team last year?
nixluva @ 9/7/2016 5:49 PM
mreinman wrote:how close was KP to making the all star team last year?

Carmelo Anthony have received only 360 more votes than Pau Gasol for the last starting spot on the East.
Kristaps Porzingis is the only rookie in the Top 50 vote getters.
http://www.nba-allstar.com/ballot/

EAST
GUARDS	                              FRONTCOURT
Dwyane Wade (Mia)	941.466	      LeBron James (Cle)	1.089.206
Kyle Lowry (Tor)	646.441	      Paul George (Ind)	        711.595
Kyrie Irving (Cle)	580.651	      Carmelo Anthony (NY)	567.348
Jimmy Butler (Chi)	564.637	      Pau Gasol (Chi)	        566.988
DeMar DeRozan (Tor)	444.868	      Andre Drummond (Det)	515.296
John Wall (Was)	        368.686	      Kristaps Porzingis (NY)	473.579
Derrick Rose (Chi)	302.389	      Chris Bosh (Mia)	        351.420
Jeremy Lin (Cha)	195.920	      Kevin Love (Cle)	        332.685
Isaiah Thomas (Bos)	153.642	      Hassan Whiteside (Mia)	301.362
Reggie Jackson (Det)	76.688	      G. Antetokounmpo (Mil)	84.617
 	                              Jonas Valanciunas (Tor)	73.079
                                      Joakim Noah (Chi)	        48.509
                                      DeMarre Carroll (Tor)	46.044
                                      Marcin Gortat (Was)	43.496
                                      Paul Millsap (Atl)	41.654
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