Knicks · 2016-17 ESPN Projected East Standings (page 1)
mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.
They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year. 
nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year.
I am not worried about the fluke injuries, there is nothing that can be done about that and its random.
I am worried that we have players that are at a much higher risk for injury do to their track record. We need to beat the odds.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year.
I am not worried about the fluke injuries, there is nothing that can be done about that and its random.
I am worried that we have players that are at a much higher risk for injury do to their track record. We need to beat the odds.
I'm not even focused on injury of any kind. The most important thing is how these players will come together as a unit and maximize the talent they have. How well Hornacek can merge the talent on this team into a cohesive unit. How well he can bring along the younger new players on the bench so that they can provide much needed production of the bench.
I'm interested in the progress of KP and if Chasson Randle can show enough to be a useful PG for this team. What will Kuz and Willy give us? That's the stuff i'm really interested in seeing.
nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year.
I am not worried about the fluke injuries, there is nothing that can be done about that and its random.
I am worried that we have players that are at a much higher risk for injury do to their track record. We need to beat the odds.
I'm not even focused on injury of any kind. The most important thing is how these players will come together as a unit and maximize the talent they have. How well Hornacek can merge the talent on this team into a cohesive unit. How well he can bring along the younger new players on the bench so that they can provide much needed production of the bench.I'm interested in the progress of KP and if Chasson Randle can show enough to be a useful PG for this team. What will Kuz and Willy give us? That's the stuff i'm really interested in seeing.
your getting lost again ... the focus was the prediction. The prediction focused on the injury history. You posted it ...
This season is all about beating the injury odds, if they stay healthy than most think they will be a good team. Its pretty simple.
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year.
I am not worried about the fluke injuries, there is nothing that can be done about that and its random.
I am worried that we have players that are at a much higher risk for injury do to their track record. We need to beat the odds.
I'm not even focused on injury of any kind. The most important thing is how these players will come together as a unit and maximize the talent they have. How well Hornacek can merge the talent on this team into a cohesive unit. How well he can bring along the younger new players on the bench so that they can provide much needed production of the bench.I'm interested in the progress of KP and if Chasson Randle can show enough to be a useful PG for this team. What will Kuz and Willy give us? That's the stuff i'm really interested in seeing.
your getting lost again ... the focus was the prediction. The prediction focused on the injury history. You posted it ...
This season is all about beating the injury odds, if they stay healthy than most think they will be a good team. Its pretty simple.
I posted it but don't have to agree with it. I've stated what I think are important factors for this team to focus on. You can't focus on injuries!!! You can't predict if or when they happen. Is it a concern? Sure but it's only one aspect of many for this team.
As I said above the further development of KP is huge. All the other factors I mentioned are of great impact. Hornacek making the game easier for these players is a huge factor. For me saying they've gotta stay healthy is obvious and simplistic.
This team is looking to be a top team in the East so a lot of things need to come together for that to happen. A prediction of 9th is mostly based on a lack of health but not much else it seems.
nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year.
I am not worried about the fluke injuries, there is nothing that can be done about that and its random.
I am worried that we have players that are at a much higher risk for injury do to their track record. We need to beat the odds.
I'm not even focused on injury of any kind. The most important thing is how these players will come together as a unit and maximize the talent they have. How well Hornacek can merge the talent on this team into a cohesive unit. How well he can bring along the younger new players on the bench so that they can provide much needed production of the bench.I'm interested in the progress of KP and if Chasson Randle can show enough to be a useful PG for this team. What will Kuz and Willy give us? That's the stuff i'm really interested in seeing.
your getting lost again ... the focus was the prediction. The prediction focused on the injury history. You posted it ...
This season is all about beating the injury odds, if they stay healthy than most think they will be a good team. Its pretty simple.
I posted it but don't have to agree with it. I've stated what I think are important factors for this team to focus on. You can't focus on injuries!!! You can't predict if or when they happen. Is it a concern? Sure but it's only one aspect of many for this team.
As I said above the further development of KP is huge. All the other factors I mentioned are of great impact. Hornacek making the game easier for these players is a huge factor. For me saying they've gotta stay healthy is obvious and simplistic.
This team is looking to be a top team in the East so a lot of things need to come together for that to happen. A prediction of 9th is mostly based on a lack of health but not much else it seems.
Beating the injury odds and blowing up any negative predictions with high-risk starters is going to really be predicated on how well Hornacek can keep to the SanTone model of maintenance, as you and dk7th have stated.
We can't afford to utilize the bench we have in the standard NBA historical model of end of game garbage time only. We aren't looking at Chris Smith and Cole Aldrich here. Almost all these yoots will need serious, in-game burn. That makes us that much more dangerous as a team, and that will hopefully keep the scar tissue from opening back up on the starters. It may cost us more than a few games we might otherwise win, but developing what we have on the bench and not having KP and Melo and Rose and Noah in suits and crutches at the end of the 'jv season' will be key. The first done successfully should avoid the second.
High 40's and the playoffs would be nice at this point. And I realize I should only think a chip is nice, but homers tend to be slightly more mellow these days...
Forget the 54 win season. Despite the mellowness, I almost think I can actually smell 1999.
jrodmc wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:pretty fair and of course Rose and Noah are keys and injury risks and Melo and Jennings are as well. If everyone stayed healthy, even I would agree that 50 games is definitely possible.They need relative health for the age and condition that they're in at this point. I suspect they'll be held out some games for maintenance. Hopefully we can avoid Tripping Over Refs this year.
I am not worried about the fluke injuries, there is nothing that can be done about that and its random.
I am worried that we have players that are at a much higher risk for injury do to their track record. We need to beat the odds.
I'm not even focused on injury of any kind. The most important thing is how these players will come together as a unit and maximize the talent they have. How well Hornacek can merge the talent on this team into a cohesive unit. How well he can bring along the younger new players on the bench so that they can provide much needed production of the bench.I'm interested in the progress of KP and if Chasson Randle can show enough to be a useful PG for this team. What will Kuz and Willy give us? That's the stuff i'm really interested in seeing.
your getting lost again ... the focus was the prediction. The prediction focused on the injury history. You posted it ...
This season is all about beating the injury odds, if they stay healthy than most think they will be a good team. Its pretty simple.
I posted it but don't have to agree with it. I've stated what I think are important factors for this team to focus on. You can't focus on injuries!!! You can't predict if or when they happen. Is it a concern? Sure but it's only one aspect of many for this team.
As I said above the further development of KP is huge. All the other factors I mentioned are of great impact. Hornacek making the game easier for these players is a huge factor. For me saying they've gotta stay healthy is obvious and simplistic.
This team is looking to be a top team in the East so a lot of things need to come together for that to happen. A prediction of 9th is mostly based on a lack of health but not much else it seems.
Beating the injury odds and blowing up any negative predictions with high-risk starters is going to really be predicated on how well Hornacek can keep to the SanTone model of maintenance, as you and dk7th have stated.
We can't afford to utilize the bench we have in the standard NBA historical model of end of game garbage time only. We aren't looking at Chris Smith and Cole Aldrich here. Almost all these yoots will need serious, in-game burn. That makes us that much more dangerous as a team, and that will hopefully keep the scar tissue from opening back up on the starters. It may cost us more than a few games we might otherwise win, but developing what we have on the bench and not having KP and Melo and Rose and Noah in suits and crutches at the end of the 'jv season' will be key. The first done successfully should avoid the second.
High 40's and the playoffs would be nice at this point. And I realize I should only think a chip is nice, but homers tend to be slightly more mellow these days...
Forget the 54 win season. Despite the mellowness, I almost think I can actually smell 1999.
From the way Hornacek explained his thinking on his rotations, he made it sound pretty clear that he will mix his top players with his bench in such a way that he doesn't put too much pressure on the bench players to do more than they are capable of. If you look at this team's top 7 players you can see that Hornacek should be able to do exactly that.
It's a solid top 7. For a 9-10 man rotation he's looking for minutes from his bench from 2 to 3 players. That is very doable and should reduce the pressure on that bench players who Hornacek said he will not platoon in minus any of his top players. Having Rose and Jennings really helps to keep the level of play up when you at least have 2 starting quality PG's. The question is how much we get out of Sasha or Chasson Randle this year. They look like the most likely options for 3rd PG.