Knicks · Annual Declaration of fandom..... (page 1)

Recently someone asked me "Your a knick fan?"
I have lived in North Carolina now 31 years.

"well, I was 9 when they won their first championship and as a kid it was impressionable! at 12 I was fully vested and was going to about 4 games a year! In the ABA, Nets won in 1974 and 1976. So from 1970 thru 76' I experienced 4 chips in 6 years! You could love the Nets because there was no conflict then! It was different. I lived on Long Island and the games were easy to get to and cheap."

What about since then? Are you embarrassed by them?

"Knicks?, Naw, its not like I messed up, NY hoop got different pressures on them for revenue and for years didn't think long term and traded away too many picks for short term results. I tried to embrace the Hornets with Mourning and Larry Johnson, but really could never root for them against the knicks, and going to Hornet/bobcat games never felt special! I was a kid going to "The Garden" and it was special! MSG still exists in its basic form despite renovations and it just feels special. Maybe its who you root for a kid that matters!!!

I take my kid to Yankee stadium and MSG, and I look around and just say "This place is special to me".

Every year someone usually does a thread many of us state why we are knick fans.
Please share you emotional attachment.......

I grew up in Manhattan. Knicks, Yankees and Giants were the holy trinity of sports to me and almost all of my friends. I also remember the last Knicks championship and also went to a handful of games each year as a kid. There's nothin like a Knicks game at the garden. The energy is special.

During the 90s era, we got to watch a team fight and scrape and come up just short. While we didn't get the chip, we did get an intense decade of amazing hoops, many ECF battles and a legacy to reflect back upon. I cherish that almost as much as a chip.

I tried to indoctrinate my kids into being Knicks fans, but failed. One doesn't care about sports that much, and the other was smitten by John Wall and became as much of a Wizzy fan as I wanted him to be a Knicks fan. As long as he's happy Thankfully he's with me on Giants and Yanks.

I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Went to the Garden in 1985 saw Pat Ewing during his rookie year and was hooked! Rory Sparrow was also from my home town of Paterson, NJ and came back often when I was younger and then while I was in high school. Good, bad and lots of ugly I am a loyal Knicks fan.

My dad used to listen to the Knicks games on the radio when Bernard King was there. It seemed like Bernard couldn't miss a shot. People in the street were all talking about King. I'm from Brooklyn so you know guys were going extra hard for the hometown kid. "I went to school with his God sister"... you know how we do. I saw him drop 50 something on TV. He was like Jesus himself. That drew me to basketball as a little kid. When the Knicks came on the world stopped. When Bernard hurt his knee I cried like a baby. I was so hurt. Nothing like that ever happened to me. I remember getting into college basketball because the Knicks were going to get a top pick. The Ewing draft was coming. The Knicks had a chance to get the Hoya Destroya. I remember Dave Debushere at the lottery. We were getting Ewing to play with King when he comes back. Then they traded him "just like Clyde" as older fans would say. I didn't understand why they would do that. I then became passionately obsessed. Up until then I was just a happy kid admiring my hero's. Roy Sparrow, Pat Cummings, Lou Orr, Truck Robinson, Trent Tucker, Darrell Walker, Kenny Bannister, Grunfeld, Bailey, Cavenal, and "bum ass Eddie lee Wilkins"... now I was starting to figure out the business. Free agents, trades, how the Knicks should get better. I could make better trades than that King trade... I used to talk with my dad's friends better than my dad. I knew the business of basketball. I started collecting basketball cards. Memorizing stats. I knew what I was talking about.

I played in my first league at 11 years old. I understood the game. I know about passing lanes, setting picks, rebounding and playing defense. I just couldn't score the basketball. A kid challenged me hard in that league. He was so much more coordinated that I was... but he didn't know anything about basketball. He hated the Knicks and didn't watch the nba at all. That made me so angry. This brought out my inner diehard. How could you be from new York but not like the Knicks? I practiced so much during the summer by myself that by the time the 8th grade came along I was pretty damn good. That summer before high school I got a chance to play that kid alot. I made a point to bust his ass and let him know about it. He never beat me again. High school was when I went insane. We had a group of 15 guys that would spend the whole lunch break talking basketball. 2 of my buddies were Bulls fans. Oh man did we have some wars! We debated so much to the point guys were fighting after school over it. Most of the time though we took it to the courts and played it out. My boys used to play in the park against my shitty high school team and beat them all the time. I never made the team but made final cut my senior year but the choice didn't want to cut the returning seniors so I never made the team. I was too busy smoking weed to try out any other year.

Anyway as an adult I played college intramurals at city College and bmcc. I actually made the team at bmcc but I got cut for academic probation. I played in the NY urban league a few years with a crew of medical staff from my job.I lost track of my high school buddies and my friends that I grew up with hated the Knicks too lol. So I went looking on line for basketball forums. I originally was a daily news forum gangster even they had the scrolling forums back in the day. I found Real Gm, msg forums... got banned and was referred to ultimate knicks by Playa himself. The rest is search engine history

GustavBahler wrote:

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Actually Nix is Big Chief Good Offense. I'm a fan of multiple offensive systems and my efforts to try and explain or clarify come out of an interest to make things more clear. I was just as in depth on SSOL since I studied that offense as well. I'm just as interested in how the Spurs and Warriors play as well. The reason I've posted so much about the Triangle is because there was so much misinformation.

I'm going to be going in deep on Hornacek's Offensive Schemes in New York. It's going to be very interesting to see how he blends his stuff with the Triangle and how he tries to maximize the talents of the players he has on this team. He's big on Analytics and coaching to the strengths of his players.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Actually Nix is Big Chief Good Offense. I'm a fan of multiple offensive systems and my efforts to try and explain or clarify come out of an interest to make things more clear. I was just as in depth on SSOL since I studied that offense as well. I'm just as interested in how the Spurs and Warriors play as well. The reason I've posted so much about the Triangle is because there was so much misinformation.

I'm going to be going in deep on Hornacek's Offensive Schemes in New York. It's going to be very interesting to see how he blends his stuff with the Triangle and how he tries to maximize the talents of the players he has on this team. He's big on Analytics and coaching to the strengths of his players.

Don't sell yourself short. Whatever religion you're preaching, be it SSOL or Triangle. You are always its most fanatical disciple.

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Actually Nix is Big Chief Good Offense. I'm a fan of multiple offensive systems and my efforts to try and explain or clarify come out of an interest to make things more clear. I was just as in depth on SSOL since I studied that offense as well. I'm just as interested in how the Spurs and Warriors play as well. The reason I've posted so much about the Triangle is because there was so much misinformation.

I'm going to be going in deep on Hornacek's Offensive Schemes in New York. It's going to be very interesting to see how he blends his stuff with the Triangle and how he tries to maximize the talents of the players he has on this team. He's big on Analytics and coaching to the strengths of his players.

Don't sell yourself short. Whatever religion you're preaching, be it SSOL or Triangle. You are always its most fanatical disciple.

EnySpree wrote:My dad used to listen to the Knicks games on the radio when Bernard King was there. It seemed like Bernard couldn't miss a shot. People in the street were all talking about King. I'm from Brooklyn so you know guys were going extra hard for the hometown kid. "I went to school with his God sister"... you know how we do. I saw him drop 50 something on TV. He was like Jesus himself. That drew me to basketball as a little kid. When the Knicks came on the world stopped. When Bernard hurt his knee I cried like a baby. I was so hurt. Nothing like that ever happened to me. I remember getting into college basketball because the Knicks were going to get a top pick. The Ewing draft was coming. The Knicks had a chance to get the Hoya Destroya. I remember Dave Debushere at the lottery. We were getting Ewing to play with King when he comes back. Then they traded him "just like Clyde" as older fans would say. I didn't understand why they would do that. I then became passionately obsessed. Up until then I was just a happy kid admiring my hero's. Roy Sparrow, Pat Cummings, Lou Orr, Truck Robinson, Trent Tucker, Darrell Walker, Kenny Bannister, Grunfeld, Bailey, Cavenal, and "bum ass Eddie lee Wilkins"... now I was starting to figure out the business. Free agents, trades, how the Knicks should get better. I could make better trades than that King trade... I used to talk with my dad's friends better than my dad. I knew the business of basketball. I started collecting basketball cards. Memorizing stats. I knew what I was talking about.

I played in my first league at 11 years old. I understood the game. I know about passing lanes, setting picks, rebounding and playing defense. I just couldn't score the basketball. A kid challenged me hard in that league. He was so much more coordinated that I was... but he didn't know anything about basketball. He hated the Knicks and didn't watch the nba at all. That made me so angry. This brought out my inner diehard. How could you be from new York but not like the Knicks? I practiced so much during the summer by myself that by the time the 8th grade came along I was pretty damn good. That summer before high school I got a chance to play that kid alot. I made a point to bust his ass and let him know about it. He never beat me again. High school was when I went insane. We had a group of 15 guys that would spend the whole lunch break talking basketball. 2 of my buddies were Bulls fans. Oh man did we have some wars! We debated so much to the point guys were fighting after school over it. Most of the time though we took it to the courts and played it out. My boys used to play in the park against my shitty high school team and beat them all the time. I never made the team but made final cut my senior year but the choice didn't want to cut the returning seniors so I never made the team. I was too busy smoking weed to try out any other year.

Anyway as an adult I played college intramurals at city College and bmcc. I actually made the team at bmcc but I got cut for academic probation. I played in the NY urban league a few years with a crew of medical staff from my job.I lost track of my high school buddies and my friends that I grew up with hated the Knicks too lol. So I went looking on line for basketball forums. I originally was a daily news forum gangster even they had the scrolling forums back in the day. I found Real Gm, msg forums... got banned and was referred to ultimate knicks by Playa himself. The rest is search engine history

fantastic job Eny!!! Thank you for sharing that!!!

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Actually Nix is Big Chief Good Offense. I'm a fan of multiple offensive systems and my efforts to try and explain or clarify come out of an interest to make things more clear. I was just as in depth on SSOL since I studied that offense as well. I'm just as interested in how the Spurs and Warriors play as well. The reason I've posted so much about the Triangle is because there was so much misinformation.

I'm going to be going in deep on Hornacek's Offensive Schemes in New York. It's going to be very interesting to see how he blends his stuff with the Triangle and how he tries to maximize the talents of the players he has on this team. He's big on Analytics and coaching to the strengths of his players.

Don't sell yourself short. Whatever religion you're preaching, be it SSOL or Triangle. You are always its most fanatical disciple.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what i've been doing. I'm not posting to say that any system be it Flex, SSOL, Triangle, Princeton etc is superior. I'm merely trying to explain how it works and correct misinformation and bias. I like the technical aspects of basketball including defensive schemes so I study them and often people post out of anger when things are not going well and they make statements that are not accurate. That is what my posts are mostly about. That is the reason for my Stills breakdowns. It's purely instructional. Some then take it to mean that i'm PRO this or that offense because i'm defending what a particular offense is actually about. Like I said that is a misunderstanding.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Actually Nix is Big Chief Good Offense. I'm a fan of multiple offensive systems and my efforts to try and explain or clarify come out of an interest to make things more clear. I was just as in depth on SSOL since I studied that offense as well. I'm just as interested in how the Spurs and Warriors play as well. The reason I've posted so much about the Triangle is because there was so much misinformation.

I'm going to be going in deep on Hornacek's Offensive Schemes in New York. It's going to be very interesting to see how he blends his stuff with the Triangle and how he tries to maximize the talents of the players he has on this team. He's big on Analytics and coaching to the strengths of his players.

Don't sell yourself short. Whatever religion you're preaching, be it SSOL or Triangle. You are always its most fanatical disciple.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what i've been doing. I'm not posting to say that any system be it Flex, SSOL, Triangle, Princeton etc is superior. I'm merely trying to explain how it works and correct misinformation and bias. I like the technical aspects of basketball including defensive schemes so I study them and often people post out of anger when things are not going well and they make statements that are not accurate. That is what my posts are mostly about. That is the reason for my Stills breakdowns. It's purely instructional. Some then take it to mean that i'm PRO this or that offense because i'm defending what a particular offense is actually about. Like I said that is a misunderstanding.

Good Will Hunting of the knicks fandom

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Malcolm wrote:I declare that I'm a fan of the Triangle.

But I've got nothing against New York City and would be be glad to
see the long suffering Knicks fans win a championship.

As long as they do it running the Triangle . . .

Nix is Big Chief Triangle here....

Actually Nix is Big Chief Good Offense. I'm a fan of multiple offensive systems and my efforts to try and explain or clarify come out of an interest to make things more clear. I was just as in depth on SSOL since I studied that offense as well. I'm just as interested in how the Spurs and Warriors play as well. The reason I've posted so much about the Triangle is because there was so much misinformation.

I'm going to be going in deep on Hornacek's Offensive Schemes in New York. It's going to be very interesting to see how he blends his stuff with the Triangle and how he tries to maximize the talents of the players he has on this team. He's big on Analytics and coaching to the strengths of his players.

Don't sell yourself short. Whatever religion you're preaching, be it SSOL or Triangle. You are always its most fanatical disciple.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what i've been doing. I'm not posting to say that any system be it Flex, SSOL, Triangle, Princeton etc is superior. I'm merely trying to explain how it works and correct misinformation and bias. I like the technical aspects of basketball including defensive schemes so I study them and often people post out of anger when things are not going well and they make statements that are not accurate. That is what my posts are mostly about. That is the reason for my Stills breakdowns. It's purely instructional. Some then take it to mean that i'm PRO this or that offense because i'm defending what a particular offense is actually about. Like I said that is a misunderstanding.

how about some aspects of the system that are not good...any instructions on that?