Knicks · Time to put KP in second unit. (page 3)

Chandler @ 11/10/2016 1:15 PM
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

dk7th @ 11/10/2016 1:36 PM
Chandler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

ashamed? nope. that implies moral depravity and ethical wrongdoing. "i don't feel i did anything wrong." sound familiar? study the thread more closely. not ashamed then, not ashamed now. seeing how acrimonious the thread was i extended the olive branch, and it was refused. i guess he couldn't stand having to read his own words so instead of accepting the olive branch i offered, i basically got spat in the face and then "i'm telling mommy on you'd."

that's my take. if martin or andrew want me gone in spite of what i have said here he will let me know. if he/they don't then please put me on ignore.

martin @ 11/10/2016 1:49 PM
dk7th wrote:
Chandler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

ashamed? nope. that implies moral depravity and ethical wrongdoing. "i don't feel i did anything wrong." sound familiar? study the thread more closely. not ashamed then, not ashamed now. seeing how acrimonious the thread was i extended the olive branch, and it was refused. i guess he couldn't stand having to read his own words so instead of accepting the olive branch i offered, i basically got spat in the face and then "i'm telling mommy on you'd."

that's my take. if martin or andrew want me gone in spite of what i have said here he will let me know. if he/they don't then please put me on ignore.

it's pretty clear you should change your posting style, we have mentioned this before.

fishmike @ 11/10/2016 1:49 PM
dk7th wrote:
Chandler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

ashamed? nope. that implies moral depravity and ethical wrongdoing. "i don't feel i did anything wrong." sound familiar? study the thread more closely. not ashamed then, not ashamed now. seeing how acrimonious the thread was i extended the olive branch, and it was refused. i guess he couldn't stand having to read his own words so instead of accepting the olive branch i offered, i basically got spat in the face and then "i'm telling mommy on you'd."

that's my take. if martin or andrew want me gone in spite of what i have said here he will let me know. if he/they don't then please put me on ignore.

Dont do it Chandler! Where else can you get this quality? I dont watch TV so I dont get my fill of Kardashians or bachelor or big brother. DK is my reality tv fix Just enjoy!
fishmike @ 11/10/2016 1:50 PM
sorry UK for trolling DK.. its just that some low hanging fruit is too sweet not to pick

Back to rotations...

Boston is struggling, Horford is out with a concussion.. more playtime for Willy? Do we see JH go back to this?

CrushAlot @ 11/10/2016 9:47 PM
Chandler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

The guy has said a lot worse. He has some very disturbing thoughts about genetics in relation to different ethnicities.
CrushAlot @ 11/10/2016 9:49 PM
Chandler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

The guy has said a lot worse. He has some very disturbing thoughts about genetics in relation to different ethnicities.
Chandler @ 11/10/2016 10:21 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Chandler wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
blkexec wrote:Why not take Melo out early....keep him fresh for the playoffs....it gives the 2nd unit a boast when he comes back in. He's getting older.. keeps him fresh.

Sure, why not. In favor of resting him. Anything to help lose leads in second unit. Think JH has tried that as well.

Did I call it......Take Melo out and bring him back with the second unit. That way he can focus on scoring, which is better than him passing. KPs offense is different since he relies on the PG play to get him the ball. And Rose is not the best facilitator. Seems like Jennings should be starting and rose come off the bench. That way rose can be rose, which is the only way he can be impact full right now.

you have selective memory, baba:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

i hope there will be no hard feelings having taken a trip down memory lane-- we did get at each other but i am officially extending an olive branch. hope you take it.

meanwhile there are some other posts in that thread by posters whose blood pressure will be sure to rise.

Are you trying to sabotage yourself, by bringing up your own racist comments? Seriously.....
Martin already gave you a warning.....Fish already chewed you up. Wow... At this point, I refuse to steep down to ur level and just pray that we as a people continue to move forward with love and less bigotry and racist insults. Less DK like comments and more love.....

i extended the olive branch, brother. you didn't do the right thing here.... sorry that you are going to join the list.

god bless.


poor form! you should be ashamed of that prior thread and you voluntarily bring it up again. Wow

The guy has said a lot worse. He has some very disturbing thoughts about genetics in relation to different ethnicities.

I think he needs to have his own gene (cess)pool analyzed. Really depraved

HofstraBBall @ 11/11/2016 5:47 PM
Looking forward for trend of either KP or Melo getting solid minutes alone with second unit. Curious to see if JH does that with Rose. Think he would be good to let lose, with second unit, as well. Also feel the first unit will be more in sync tonight, like they were vs UTAH.
blkexec @ 11/11/2016 6:10 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Looking forward for trend of either KP or Melo getting solid minutes alone with second unit. Curious to see if JH does that with Rose. Think he would be good to let lose, with second unit, as well. Also feel the first unit will be more in sync tonight, like they were vs UTAH.

KP carrying the 2nd unit is the superstar training he needs. Learn how to be the focal point on offense.

GustavBahler @ 11/11/2016 6:25 PM
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Looking forward for trend of either KP or Melo getting solid minutes alone with second unit. Curious to see if JH does that with Rose. Think he would be good to let lose, with second unit, as well. Also feel the first unit will be more in sync tonight, like they were vs UTAH.

KP carrying the 2nd unit is the superstar training he needs. Learn how to be the focal point on offense.

The only drawback to that is KP not going against starting units. Sure his numbers will be better but
for KP's development, its also important IMO to put him up against the best competition out there.

Knicks67 @ 11/13/2016 2:56 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
blkexec wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Looking forward for trend of either KP or Melo getting solid minutes alone with second unit. Curious to see if JH does that with Rose. Think he would be good to let lose, with second unit, as well. Also feel the first unit will be more in sync tonight, like they were vs UTAH.

KP carrying the 2nd unit is the superstar training he needs. Learn how to be the focal point on offense.

The only drawback to that is KP not going against starting units. Sure his numbers will be better but
for KP's development, its also important IMO to put him up against the best competition out there.

You've made a very good point there, I think there is a happy medium where he runs with the starters early on and late in the game, and possibly have the Jennings, Vujecic, Kuz, Kp and Hernangomez out there. Perhaps that way he gets the taste of leadership but also that development.

KNICKSdom @ 11/13/2016 10:53 AM
Simple solution for all roles to fall in place like some digital puzzle: start KP at the 5.
TPercy @ 11/13/2016 11:11 AM
I don't know. Part of the notion of sticking KP in the second unit is assuming he can take up the role of a "scorer", which he can't yet.
Per Nnbaminer, 84% of Porzingis's FG's are assisted, which is more than double Melo's FGs that are assisted(40%) and Derrick Rose's(29%). Porzingis is a very good support player who is good in PNR, catch and shoot, and can perform 1 or 2 nifty moves to get his shot off, so why should we try to change that?
HofstraBBall @ 11/13/2016 12:01 PM
TPercy wrote:I don't know. Part of the notion of sticking KP in the second unit is assuming he can take up the role of a "scorer", which he can't yet.
Per Nnbaminer, 84% of Porzingis's FG's are assisted, which is more than double Melo's FGs that are assisted(40%) and Derrick Rose's(29%). Porzingis is a very good support player who is good in PNR, catch and shoot, and can perform 1 or 2 nifty moves to get his shot off, so why should we try to change that?

True. However, would still be with first unit at the beginning of each half and crunch time. And Jennings is a pretty good assist guy. But you bring up an interesting point regarding KP'S inability to create his own shots. Some that say he can be the main option on offense and no longer needs Melo, do not like hearing that.But feel he will continue to progress. I am not a fan of the amount of long three point shots he attempts. Would rather see him working on his post up moves down low.

TPercy @ 11/14/2016 8:44 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
TPercy wrote:I don't know. Part of the notion of sticking KP in the second unit is assuming he can take up the role of a "scorer", which he can't yet.
Per Nnbaminer, 84% of Porzingis's FG's are assisted, which is more than double Melo's FGs that are assisted(40%) and Derrick Rose's(29%). Porzingis is a very good support player who is good in PNR, catch and shoot, and can perform 1 or 2 nifty moves to get his shot off, so why should we try to change that?

True. However, would still be with first unit at the beginning of each half and crunch time. And Jennings is a pretty good assist guy. But you bring up an interesting point regarding KP'S inability to create his own shots. Some that say he can be the main option on offense and no longer needs Melo, do not like hearing that.But feel he will continue to progress. I am not a fan of the amount of long three point shots he attempts. Would rather see him working on his post up moves down low.


I would like to see him show some more improvement in the post, because he may be a great shooter, but if his shot is off then he needs to grow a lot more comfortable attacking the basket. If he develops that ability in the near future, then I would feel a lot more comfortable making him the focal point of our offense in the second unit.
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