Knicks · derrick-rose-vents-about-refs-why-dont-i-ever-get-the-calls (page 1)

fitzfarm @ 11/13/2016 8:38 PM
You really have to wonder. This is starting to build momentum from multiple players on the team. Do the refs have something against the knicks .

For someone like rose who gets to the hoop at will to only go to the free throw line twice in the game. Are these games rigged against us?

How many times in this short season do our opponents go to the line 30 plus times? A lot of the calls were questionable?
http://nypost.com/2016/11/13/derrick-ros...

fitzfarm @ 11/14/2016 9:38 AM
i just dont see how guys like harden,westbrook,derozen,john wall,heck even the celts Thomas are going to the line way more then rose. rose attacks the basket harder then any of the guys i wrote above but he goes to the line 2 to 4 times a game while the other guys are going around 10 times a game.

You could say the same for melo opposed to guys playing his position in durant,paul george,gordon hayword ect. as a matter of fact when was the last time the knicks went to the line more then their opponet ?

I think the NBA needs to look into it because the knicks are their most valued franchise it hurts the NBA $$$ wise to have us not get a fair chance.

Vmart @ 11/14/2016 9:51 AM
If you haven't figured it out the NBA is and always has been rigged. Last season was rigged too. Cavs won only because the networks wanted a seven game series. Otherwise Green plays and Warriors roll to the victory.

As for the Knicks they aren't going to win for another 20-30 years we might as well watch basketball for the sake of just watching.

SupremeCommander @ 11/14/2016 9:58 AM
this is bullshit. it is easier for these guys to blame the refs or the boogeyman than man up and play to win
Vmart @ 11/14/2016 10:02 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:this is bullshit. it is easier for these guys to blame the refs or the boogeyman than man up and play to win

Honestly I don't don't think they care if they win or lose. The thing with the Knicks and it has been like this since 2001 is that they have not committed themselves to what they want to be great at. Pick something offense or defense and start from there.

SupremeCommander @ 11/14/2016 11:28 AM
Vmart wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:this is bullshit. it is easier for these guys to blame the refs or the boogeyman than man up and play to win

Honestly I don't don't think they care if they win or lose. The thing with the Knicks and it has been like this since 2001 is that they have not committed themselves to what they want to be great at. Pick something offense or defense and start from there.

I tend to agree... this collection of players reminds of the "dark ages" Rangers from the mid 90s to mid 2000s... they got all these high priced guys who had already made their names... they just came for the paycheck and to enjoy the NYC amenities. This era of Knicks reminds me of those years exactly

fitzfarm @ 11/14/2016 2:02 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Vmart wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:this is bullshit. it is easier for these guys to blame the refs or the boogeyman than man up and play to win

Honestly I don't don't think they care if they win or lose. The thing with the Knicks and it has been like this since 2001 is that they have not committed themselves to what they want to be great at. Pick something offense or defense and start from there.

I tend to agree... this collection of players reminds of the "dark ages" Rangers from the mid 90s to mid 2000s... they got all these high priced guys who had already made their names... they just came for the paycheck and to enjoy the NYC amenities. This era of Knicks reminds me of those years exactly

the main concern is no one in the nba drives to the basket as frequently as derick rose and hes going to the line 2 times a game.... while james harden and company are going to the line 12 times a game on average. i have to agree with rose, melo, and jennings.... i would be very fustrated and file a complaint, at least get the NBA watching who and how the games are being called.

its one thing to risk your body knowing you are going to get a fair call, why risk going to the hoop in a contract year if your only going to the free throw line 2 times a game. thats to much of a injury risk to not get the calls. and rose gets hammered, melo gets hammered. and they both go to the line way less then guys in there elite talent level.


at the very least get the nba to look into it.

fitzfarm @ 11/14/2016 6:00 PM
CrushAlot @ 11/15/2016 9:39 PM
Dubin on the Locked On podcast has made the point on several occasions that Rose and Melo play through contact as opposed to a guy like Harden who exaggerates it. He also spoke to how Rose contorts to avoid/minimize contact while a player like Harden maximizes contact and forces the refs to make a call.
KP4Life @ 11/16/2016 2:09 AM
Did rose get more calls in Chicago?
Chandler @ 11/16/2016 7:44 AM
My hope is Knicks Front office is documenting this w video and sending to league

It's ridiculous and a big issue. Yes Knicks need to foul less but this is a separate issue of whether they're getting their calls

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